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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:16 PM Aug 2016

After Debbie Wasserman Schultz attacks Tim Canova over Middle East statement he changes website

Source: The Miami Herald

During the CBS4 debate Sunday, U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz accused her rival Tim Canova of wanting to force Israel to disarm -- a charge with implications at the ballot box in the heavily Jewish South Florida district.

Canova's website had stated: "The U.S. must do everything in its power to reverse the militarization of the region, including full diplomatic efforts to negotiate a general disarmament for the entire region that includes nuclear, missile, and conventional arms reductions. We should recognize that peace and security for Israel, the U.S., and the rest of the world is no longer possible without general disarmament and fundamental political and social reforms throughout the Middle East. We must work to bring about such reform as much as possible through non-violent peaceful means using the full range of U.S. economic and diplomatic power."

Canova shot back that he didn't mean to suggest that Israel should disarm -- he meant Saudia Arabia and Iran. But he had made similar statements in the past about generally disarming the Middle East.

After the debate, Canova said that the wording on his website was an "oversight" and that it would be changed. The new portion is in italics:

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2016/08/tim-canova-tweaks-website-statement-on-iran-.html



So, Canova used radical-fringe anti-Israel rhetoric on his website to raise tons of money but now has to change his tune because he just figured out there are a lot of Jewish voters in his district.
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After Debbie Wasserman Schultz attacks Tim Canova over Middle East statement he changes website (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Aug 2016 OP
He's toast. nt onehandle Aug 2016 #1
DWS used the DNC to help her campaign against Canova. think Aug 2016 #4
That's a shame. ananda Aug 2016 #19
She's won nothing yet. What are you talking about? YOHABLO Aug 2016 #25
DWS is a cancer on the Democratic Party nikto Aug 2016 #28
No, I think she is toast... Callmecrazy Aug 2016 #26
Sorry but wanting to stop the warmongering from Israel isn't "radical fringe". bananakabob Aug 2016 #2
Canova was embarrassed enough by it to change the statement on his website Freddie Stubbs Aug 2016 #8
Sure, I'm used to Democrats being spineless >_< bananakabob Aug 2016 #10
Can you IMAGINE..... Plucketeer Aug 2016 #23
agree completely. thank you! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2016 #24
It's context not just content in this case. Hortensis Aug 2016 #13
Ah, that makes sense! bananakabob Aug 2016 #15
I am Jewish, and I agree nikto Aug 2016 #30
"The work we did to prepare for Hillary Clinton to be our nominee.." Blue State Bandit Aug 2016 #3
I caught that when I was watching it on the teevee tom_kelly Aug 2016 #18
What was the follow up question? NWCorona Aug 2016 #29
There was none on that, she stomped on the follow-up... Blue State Bandit Aug 2016 #32
Wow! That was an amazing slip but kinda irrelevant at this point I guess. NWCorona Aug 2016 #33
So what? murielm99 Aug 2016 #34
Not for DWS. Blue State Bandit Aug 2016 #35
She will win. murielm99 Aug 2016 #36
Did he add any references to "Ballots or Bullets" Joyce Kaufman on his website? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #5
What are you talking about? FairWinds Aug 2016 #6
Then why did Canova flip-flop and change the statement on his website? Freddie Stubbs Aug 2016 #9
He's entitled why can't he? turbinetree Aug 2016 #12
He chickened-out, IMO nikto Aug 2016 #31
Experience matters. Hillary will need strong and seasoned members of congress on her side. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #7
Good for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #11
I still think he'd be a better congressperson. nt. druidity33 Aug 2016 #14
What a load of bollocks. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #16
The guy is a blithering idiot. Gman Aug 2016 #17
The "radical-fringe anti-Israel rhetoric" remark comes out of the anti-BDS playbook Bibi is using. Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #20
Excellent Post McKim Aug 2016 #27
his expertise is banking and finance, and it shows. Sunlei Aug 2016 #21
Some propagandists try to get us to believe . . FairWinds Aug 2016 #22
 

think

(11,641 posts)
4. DWS used the DNC to help her campaign against Canova.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:32 PM
Aug 2016
Tim Canova Files Formal Election Complaint Against Debbie Wasserman Schultz

BY JERRY IANNELLI - MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2016 AT 1:21 P.M.

When WikiLeaks published a trove of hacked Democratic National Committee emails in July, website founder Julian Assange promised the world he'd upend the 2016 presidential election. That hasn't quite happened, but Assange did get to at least claim one politician as a trophy: The document dump forced Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz to resign her post as chair of the Democratic National Committee.

Now the leaks have also triggered a formal Federal Election Commission complaint, which could lead to sanctions against the embattled Florida congresswoman.

~Snip~

Last month, New Times broke news that Canova's name turned up repeatedly in the DNC's email leak. WikiLeaks' email database showed that DNC staffers, who were not part of Wasserman Schultz's campaign team, routinely kept tabs on Canova's campaign, shared articles about him, and helped the congresswoman coordinate her fight against him.

~Snip~

In another email chain, DNC spokesperson Luis Miranda asked staffers to "do some digging" for information about a May rally at which Canova planned to speak in Alaska. The rally had been scheduled to compete with one of Wassserman Schultz's speeches....

Read more:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/tim-canova-files-formal-election-complaint-against-debbie-wasserman-schultz-8667388


DWS abused her power at the DNC, supported Pay Day Lenders who donated to her, and openly opposed the effort to get medical marijuana in Florida.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz also has refused to support other Democrats running for congress in her area due to her personal relationships with the GOP incumbents.

It's time for Debbie Wasserman Schultz to move on....

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
26. No, I think she is toast...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

Sanders had a strong following here. The way she tried to minimize his campaign won't be forgotten but we who are in her district.

 

bananakabob

(105 posts)
2. Sorry but wanting to stop the warmongering from Israel isn't "radical fringe".
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

I fail to see what was wrong with the original statement.

I'm more disgusted with the pro-Israel pandering from a Democrat.

 

bananakabob

(105 posts)
10. Sure, I'm used to Democrats being spineless >_<
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

But what was so wrong with it? It was wrong for Debbie to use it as an attack, too.

I don't know enough about this Tim Canova but Democrats shouldn't be taking positions defending Israeli warmongering.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. Can you IMAGINE.....
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:41 PM
Aug 2016

What a utopian burg we could develop here on U.S. soil if we'd slathered on the same amount of funds on it that we've wasted on Israeli turf??? Israel is what.... to us? The ridiculous argument that they're some sort of "stabilizing factor" for the Middle East is like saying let's drop a lamb into a cage of starving hyenas to see if it will calm the hyenas! Besides billions, we GIVE them stuffs that THEY are capable of creating right there in their squatted "homeland". Another delusional cling-to from the stupidity of religion. A factor of lunacy that will be zealously guarded and perpetuated by our establishment governance. Cyrin' shame we don't have and WON'T have anyone with the balls to holler ENOUGH!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. It's context not just content in this case.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

Mr. Canova's background seems to be Catholic with a Jewish stepfather. This is a strongly Jewish district. Mr. Canova is proudly left wing, which is fine in itself, but that means means he has to extremely unambiguously separate himself from the rise of strong anti-Israel sentiment on the far left.

Some in the rising anti-Israel movement on the far left are not content with condemning just Jewish warmongers and persecutors of Palestinians but are actually hostile to the very existence of Israel itself. Willing to stop short of erasing Israel altogether are many of the DBSers, who'd use that to force Israel to its knees until it stopped persecuting Palestinians. The last is certainly a worthy goal, but perhaps the movement is not something someone running for Congress in this district should risk confusing himself with.

I'm perfectly ready to take Mr. Canova's meaning as wanting disarmament of all Middle Eastern nations and not think badly of him at all, a very happy fantasy at this point; but if Canova didn't want suspicious constituents frowning over what his statement might indicate, he needed to draw a very heavy line between himself and Israel's inimical far-left enemies.

I imagine he felt he'd soft-pedaled his views enough already, but apparently not.

 

bananakabob

(105 posts)
15. Ah, that makes sense!
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:15 PM
Aug 2016

Admittedly I don't know much about the race since I'm a Massachusetts yankee

I just get worried when people backpedal on the issue. Thanks for the explanation! I'd like your post if I could!

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
3. "The work we did to prepare for Hillary Clinton to be our nominee.."
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

Once again admitting that she was far from impartial during the nomination process.

tom_kelly

(958 posts)
18. I caught that when I was watching it on the teevee
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:35 PM
Aug 2016

and wondered if he would pick up on it. No. He appeared uncomfortable. So did she though.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
34. So what?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:20 AM
Aug 2016

The superdelegates were far from impartial when they endorsed Hillary, as they had a right to do. So were the many, many other Democratic leaders. I am glad DWS did what she did.

BTW, the primary is over.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
36. She will win.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:20 PM
Aug 2016

I notice that the former Bernie staffers have already deserted Canova. There must not have been enough money to suck up from his campaign.

Bernie is running for Senate and an independent. I support Democrats only.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
5. Did he add any references to "Ballots or Bullets" Joyce Kaufman on his website?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:33 PM
Aug 2016

Since she appears to like him, and he feels perfectly fine going on her show?

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
6. What are you talking about?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:35 PM
Aug 2016

The majority of jewish-americans and Israelis would agree with the statement that had been on Canova's website.

Why are peaceful solutions ". . radical-fringe anti-Israel rhetoric . ." ??

And someone should point out that it is the US taxpayers who foot the bill for Israel's military.

BTW, well-known jewish guy Bernie S. has similar "radical fringe" views, and got a lot of votes with them - including from very many jewish-americans.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
31. He chickened-out, IMO
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:29 PM
Aug 2016







IMO, bullies must be stood up to, and that means "Little-Miss Subterfuge" herself, DWS.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
16. What a load of bollocks.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:31 PM
Aug 2016

"radical-fringe anti-Israel rhetoric"?

Have you the faintest idea what politics is about? Or international relations? I despair that a long term reader of the DU site is still so totally uninformed about the world or politics.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
17. The guy is a blithering idiot.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:33 PM
Aug 2016

He's an ignorant opportunist trying to piggyback on Sanders. He doesn't know his district? And he wants to be a congressman? The guy is stupid.

Ford_Prefect

(7,886 posts)
20. The "radical-fringe anti-Israel rhetoric" remark comes out of the anti-BDS playbook Bibi is using.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:52 PM
Aug 2016

There's a whole department in the Israeli Foreign Office that does nothing but work on making anyone who speaks out about Israeli abuses and policy appear to be politically toxic, if not terrorist. They attack American and European peace groups who support divestment and question the perpetual expansion of settlements as anti-Semitic.They have accused mainstream American political and social justice groups of the same.

It is a political attack as when the Republicans accuse Liberals and Democrats of being unpatriotic and soft on crime. Wasserman-Schultz has gotten very close with AIPAC. Surprising when you consider the lengths they went to trying to embarrass the President. They have lots of money to spread around and are willing to do anything it takes to maintain their influence in Congress, anything at all. Does that sound so unfamiliar in the context of Debbie's campaign?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
27. Excellent Post
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:18 PM
Aug 2016

Excellent post, Ford. We should all become familiar with the AIPAC Playbook so that we can judge information being fed to us.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
22. Some propagandists try to get us to believe . .
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:00 PM
Aug 2016

that American Jews are in full support of Israel and its policies.

But this is anything but true.

From PEW research - "About four-in-ten American Jews (38%) think the current Israeli government is making a sincere effort to bring about a peace settlement with the Palestinians, while 48% say this is not the case."

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