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KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:30 AM Sep 2016

Trump earns endorsement of 88 retired generals, admirals

Source: Politico

Donald Trump earned the endorsement of 88 retired generals and admirals in an open letter released Tuesday, as the Republican nominee looks to solidify support in the military community against Hillary Clinton in November.

The Republican nominee's campaign unveiled the letter, organized by Major Gen. Sidney Shachnow, a 40-year Army veteran and Holocaust survivor, and Rear Admiral Charles Williams, ahead of a speech on veterans affairs in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

Shachnow declared that Trump "has the temperament to commander-in-chief," while Williams called the Republican nominee "more trusted" than Clinton.

In the letter, the retired military leaders warned of the "potentially extremely perilous" combination of budget cuts and policy choices will "emboldened" enemies of the country as a result of those actions.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/retired-generals-admirals-endorse-trump-227755



THE LETTER
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Trump earns endorsement of 88 retired generals, admirals (Original Post) KewlKat Sep 2016 OP
88 people who do not need a job DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #4
I wonder if the alt-right knows that a Holocaust survivor is making his opinion known ck4829 Sep 2016 #8
Just because they served atreides1 Sep 2016 #9
Welcome to DU HeavenSage. Ellipsis Sep 2016 #16
You probably won't be too happy with these generals then... because they're supporting Hillary. LOL tenderfoot Sep 2016 #17
Or…reality…that they are duped and manipulated elderly men ala Swiftliars. blm Sep 2016 #24
They support a man who would displace 11million people and take their possessions? displacedtexan Sep 2016 #27
n/s JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #29
You are right, but not "because fuck drumpf" William Seger Sep 2016 #34
They know how to translate "Make America Great Again" gollygee Sep 2016 #42
Nicely played. n/t Ellipsis Sep 2016 #49
Yes, every last one of them, assholes to a man, cheapdate Sep 2016 #35
so these dimwits only look at military budgets lapfog_1 Sep 2016 #2
Most probably work for Defense contractors and stand to benefit (they think) from a Dustlawyer Sep 2016 #10
Went in to check to see if they were retired from US military... HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #3
They would be fools to endorse if still active... TipTok Sep 2016 #33
Actually, I wondered if they had been US officers HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #38
I don't think even Trump is stupid enough to do that... PersonNumber503602 Sep 2016 #46
Because they like to go to war? gollygee Sep 2016 #5
Job security, promotion, a chest full of fruit salad, recruitment offers from Aristus Sep 2016 #23
What do they know? ck4829 Sep 2016 #6
Pretty scary that 88 people with such poor judgment ... GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #7
Trump may be right... bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2016 #11
Psst, generals. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #12
As for those costs... freebrew Sep 2016 #19
I agree about the rip offs, and they don't spend the money on the troops, either. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #20
Agreed.. freebrew Sep 2016 #45
They're missing trillions in audits. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #52
Retired, they won't need to fight Trump's wars liberal N proud Sep 2016 #13
Archived images of generals at work Ellipsis Sep 2016 #14
Same guys who watch Oliver North's show conditioned to believe he's a hero. blm Sep 2016 #15
Are they still alive? Chakaconcarne Sep 2016 #18
probably a few, but they are in a veterans home somewhere. olddad56 Sep 2016 #43
They should be ashamed MFM008 Sep 2016 #21
Two points about that "Letter": George II Sep 2016 #22
See it around me everyday with people that are otherwise thoughtful and intelligent bigbrother05 Sep 2016 #25
The War Pigs have spoken Runningdawg Sep 2016 #26
Fuck the Military snort Sep 2016 #28
We love you too... TipTok Sep 2016 #32
WTF! A holocaust survivor for Trump?! smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #30
Poultry for Colonel Sanders Maeve Sep 2016 #36
Meh... my military circle seems to lean heavily towards Johnson TipTok Sep 2016 #31
And you......? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #39
yes, authoritarian miltarists tend to be rightwing nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #40
88 - Really? 88 is White Supremist code for Heil Hitler, y'all. CapnSteve Sep 2016 #37
Well, I was a big fan of the way the campaign asked Sheldon Adelson for 6 million, Mc Mike Sep 2016 #44
I'm glad someone other than the SPLC and I noticed the '88'. Hugin Sep 2016 #47
Is he blackmailing them? n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2016 #41
And the very next day... moondust Sep 2016 #48
Misogynists. milestogo Sep 2016 #50
Per The Atlantic over 500 endorsed Romney TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #51

Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #1)

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
8. I wonder if the alt-right knows that a Holocaust survivor is making his opinion known
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:06 AM
Sep 2016

That's got to tick them off to no end, right?

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
9. Just because they served
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:15 AM
Sep 2016

Doesn't mean they aren't assholes...and personally I'm getting a little tired of using the Holocaust, especially if it's to elect a man who might very well do it again!!!

What about those survivors of the Holocaust who see in Trump, the same thing they saw in Hitler and Mussolini?

blm

(113,019 posts)
24. Or…reality…that they are duped and manipulated elderly men ala Swiftliars.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:25 AM
Sep 2016

Remember how many feeble-minded men were manipulated by political opportunists on that load of BS crafted by GOP propagandists?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
27. They support a man who would displace 11million people and take their possessions?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:50 AM
Sep 2016

Hmmmmm. Where have we seen this before?

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
34. You are right, but not "because fuck drumpf"
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:31 PM
Sep 2016

Trump supporters are assholes because Trump supporters are bigots, xenophobes, and misogynists (or in this case, likely all three) who are foolish enough to think that this Narcissistic demagogue has any desire -- much less a clue how -- to Make America Great Again. The Donald is only interested in making The Donald Great Again, and he's counting on people who are ignorant and stupid enough to think that building a wall at the Mexican border, deporting 11 million people, and banning Muslims, while we give Reaganomics yet one more try to trickle down, will Make America Great Again. Yep, they're assholes.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
42. They know how to translate "Make America Great Again"
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:46 PM
Sep 2016

It's code language for "Make American Greater for White People and Worse for People of Color."

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
35. Yes, every last one of them, assholes to a man,
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:40 PM
Sep 2016

or at best, mentally defective / intellectually impaired.

The special plea that because they "served their country" -- more so than a school teacher, social worker, or mail carrier -- they are somehow gifted with special wisdom and their political opinions are somehow worthy of special consideration has no truck with me.

Headline : 88 old, retired, white, men sign letter supporting Donald Trump.


lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
2. so these dimwits only look at military budgets
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:36 AM
Sep 2016

of our own armed forces...

Because with a Trump basically withdrawing us from NATO, we will be on our own.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
10. Most probably work for Defense contractors and stand to benefit (they think) from a
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:24 AM
Sep 2016

Trump presidency.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Went in to check to see if they were retired from US military...
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:38 AM
Sep 2016

it's actually not clear, although their spokesman refers to US voters as 'fellow' Americans

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
38. Actually, I wondered if they had been US officers
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:39 PM
Sep 2016

I think Trump could get lots of Russian military endorsements for the asking.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. Because they like to go to war?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:54 AM
Sep 2016

A Trump presidency would mean constant war. Maybe that's a good thing to them? Job security?

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
23. Job security, promotion, a chest full of fruit salad, recruitment offers from
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:20 AM
Sep 2016

defense contractors, you name it.

They don't care how many brave Americans die under their command as long as they get a lucrative consulting job out of it...

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
6. What do they know?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:55 AM
Sep 2016

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me,’’
- Donald Trump

If Donald Trump is indeed the right man for this job by looking at his positions and statements according to them, then their opinion is moot.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
11. Trump may be right...
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:38 AM
Sep 2016

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me,’’

With this many idiots - maybe Trump is right after all?!

Also, I didn't know there were that many Russian agents in the military!

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
12. Psst, generals.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:34 AM
Sep 2016

"The U.S. outpaces all other nations in military expenditures. World military spending totaled more than $1.6 trillion in 2015. The U.S. accounted for 37 percent of the total.

U.S. military expenditures are roughly the size of the next seven largest military budgets around the world, combined.



U.S. military spending dwarfs the budget of the #2 country – China. For every dollar China spends on its military, the U.S. spends $2.77."

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/us-military-spending-vs-world/

Backing the guy who plays footsie with Putin and wants to dismantle NATO (and the VA) probably isn't the best move, in terms of strategic military thought.

I wonder if General Schachnow has met Drump's Holocaust-denying foreign policy advisor Joe Schmitz:
http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/348059/trump-adviser-denies-firing-jews-from-top-jobs-and-denying-holocaust/

The general either doesn't know what he's talking about, at all, or he knows and is a bad person. He deserves respect and consideration for his decades long service to the US in the military, and for being someone who lived through Hitler's genocide. But he deserves zero respect for backing someone who has a ton of nazi ties, and who wants to destroy the US's alliances and rattle the saber against our southern neighbor.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
19. As for those costs...
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:26 AM
Sep 2016

don't forget why we spend so much.
Profits for the MIC.
I'm pretty sure the other countries are getting much more for their ruble.
What other country spends $500 for a hammer, or $1000 for a toilet?
Or $35Billion for a fighter that doesn't work yet?

We are getting ripped off big time by the MIC and their corporate(gov't) cronies because we've 'privatized' everything.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
20. I agree about the rip offs, and they don't spend the money on the troops, either.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:42 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Mon Oct 17, 2016, 11:36 AM - Edit history (2)

But we have the most powerful, best funded, best equipped military in the world, anyway, an order of magnitude greater than every other one of the closest competitively ranked nations' armed forces. And it has the greatest arm reach in the world.

We're just playing the trump backing generals' game, when having a discussion about the "relative fitness" of our military. If our military was pulled back to just defend our country, nobody could hope to defeat us. But our huge military supremacy is unable to successfully project its power to eliminate resistance from 3rd world people who live in their own country and don't want us there, and it can't eliminate small cell terrorists by using brute force battlefield techniques.

That is the type of military supremacy drump backing generals want. A fabled one that can and will never exist. So they pretend that somehow the Dems broke the military, while the Dems in fact repaired the huge amount of damage the repubs' last junta did to our military.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
45. Agreed..
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:00 AM
Sep 2016

the troops are just expendable pawns and are treated as such
when they are no longer useful.

The amount of $$$ the US military has access to is unmaginable
to most of us thounsandaires.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
52. They're missing trillions in audits.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:37 AM
Sep 2016

But it is the most beefed up military force in the world. And it has been recovering under Obama, from the racking it took under li'l bush and dick cheney.

blm

(113,019 posts)
15. Same guys who watch Oliver North's show conditioned to believe he's a hero.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:02 AM
Sep 2016

I doubt the majority of them have their wits intact. GOP operatives preyed on old and ill veterans to pad their list of Swiftliars. GOP's voting base relies on large number of propagandized Moonie News repeaters. Which explains why Trump is now so aptly representative of the GOP.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
21. They should be ashamed
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:12 AM
Sep 2016

No wonder the brass was hated by regular guys like my dad.
He was USAF for 23 years.

They are a disgrace, anyone that supports the maggot
Deserves the full force of karma rebound.
Fuck all of them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Two points about that "Letter":
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:19 AM
Sep 2016

1. Once again it looks like a "letter" that was written by Trump himself or perhaps John Miller.

2. I'm glad all those generals and admirals are retired, since they show little knowledge of how the process works.

Do they not know that the military budget has been controlled by Congress, not the President? And do they not realize that both houses of Congress are controlled by republicans?

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
25. See it around me everyday with people that are otherwise thoughtful and intelligent
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:27 AM
Sep 2016

When it comes to their military, anyone that waves a flag and promises to strengthen the country gets a pass if they are in the GOP. Critical thinking takes a back seat to saluting the flag.

Hope that this letter will prompt more to come out on the other side, particularly ones with some name recognition in the public.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
31. Meh... my military circle seems to lean heavily towards Johnson
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Sep 2016

A few rabid Trump fans.

No Hillary fans have presented themselves yet.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
44. Well, I was a big fan of the way the campaign asked Sheldon Adelson for 6 million,
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 08:51 AM
Sep 2016

to make up for the RNC Convention funding shortage. t rump did it right after (or during) the fallout from the retweeted nazi meem featuring Hillary, the money piles, and the red 6 pointed star.

Anyhow, they asked him by announcing he was giving them '6 million', then there was a kerfluffle in the press about whether Adelson was asked for the money and whether he said he was giving it. I never saw the donation records, afterwards.

I do know that Cruz ran for his life, after his convention non-endorsement of il Douche A, to Adelson's convention hotel suite, and was turned away at the door. So that's fun.

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