Hillary Clinton Surges Back Into The Lead Over Trump After Pneumonia Scare
Source: Politicususa
NEW YORK (Reuters) Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican rival Donald Trump by 4 percentage points, and her recent bout with pneumonia doesnt appear to have scared away her supporters, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.
The Sept. 9-15 tracking poll showed that 42 percent of likely voters supported Clinton while 38 percent backed Trump. Clinton, who has mostly led Trump in the poll since the Democratic and Republican national conventions ended in July, regained the advantage this week after her lead briefly faded in late August.
Clinton has an advantage among minorities, women, people who make more than $75,000 a year, and those with moderate political leanings. Trump has an advantage with whites, men, avid churchgoers, and people who are nearing retirement age.
Overall, Americans appear to be relatively uninspired by their choices for president with less than eight weeks to go before the election. One out of every five likely voters said they do not support Clinton or Trump for president. In comparison, about one out of every 10 likely voters wouldnt support Obama or Republican challenger Mitt Romney at a similar point in the 2012 presidential campaign.
Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/16/hillary-clinton-surges-lead-trump-pneumonia-scare.html
In a matchup including Gary Johnson, she is 3 points ahead.
I don't love online polls because they are self-selected and history shows they tend to understate Hillary's support -- but this poll is a good sign.
ailsagirl
(22,887 posts)Journeyman
(15,026 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Pretty much would plan to abandon that plan if Trump were elected. And I'll have to see how the 2018 and 2020 elections go.
The GOP's purpose is provide the henchmen for the greedy bastards that are determine to steal every dime that wage earners have put in for retirement. Not just Social Security, but our savings and pensions too. It drives them absolutely blood-boiling insane that there is wealth out there that they do not own - yet.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Look, even if Trump gets elected, he will get NOTHING done....NOTHING...why? the congress will not pass any of his fucked up ideas, the Senate, even if not democratic controlled will not have enough to get 60 vote filibuster bust, so it dies in committee. Trump doesnt see that. He thinks he will be King of the US, not President. He won't be anything but a laughing stock after Nov 8.
llmart
(15,534 posts)I'm not only nearing retirement, I'm past normal retirement age and I wouldn't trust that egomaniac to do anything for seniors.
Also, why would churchgoing people vote for this bloke? He is the farthest thing from Christian you can get.
I'm shaking my head.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)"I won't vote for (candidate) because they got sick."
to
"Ok, they got over it, back to voting for (candidate)."
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)PSPS
(13,580 posts)Geesh. It's getting pretty ridiculous, isn't it? They must create a horse race or they have nothing to sell. Pathetic. And, now, it's a SCARY "pneumonia SCARE@!!!!11!!" Fuck you.
daligirrl
(620 posts)But the media is conning us.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)The numbers guys at 538 combine data from all available polls and then rework their analyses every time they get new polling data, doing sort of a weighted average. They weight the data so that the more reliable polling organizations (with better track records for accuracy) get more weight.
Seems to be the most accurate view we can get at any given time. At the moment they have Hillary 60% likely to win.
The site also has sections that discuss their methodology.
Thekaspervote
(32,715 posts)Also, look at at Larry sabatos crystal ball from the university of Virginia. Both of these guys have correctly called every election, wang since the late 90s, I believe and sabato every election since 2000. Wang, openly says his polls don't look like the media polls...why? He says because his are NOT financially or media driven.
Nate silver, I just don't know about him anymore, if he's so good and his polls are not media driven why don't his polls look more like Sam wang's and Larry sabato? Any thoughts ..anyone? He is a card carrying republican, a little known fact that came out after the 08 election. Yes, he's a very smart guy and I highly doubt he wants drumpf to win. "It won't (doesn't) scour" as a very famous president once said of his now very famous war time speech.
Come on.... 4 points is NOT a surge, not after she went from 85 % to 60%...... a surge is back up to 75%. I know some are scared shitless about the polls, but come on.....on-line and land line phone polls work real well for voters 18-30 huh..... CNN last poll didnt even include young voters......lets see how the polls look after her debates...
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)What warped, twisted, sick religion do they belong to?
Mrdie
(115 posts)All they need is for Kenneth Copeland or innumerable other shysters to declare it their duty to God that they get out and vote for Trump.
Case in point: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/god-tells-jim-bakker-not-believe-polls-showing-trump-losing
This is because fundies have been attached to the Republican Party for decades. Even when the party nominates someone who clearly doesn't much care for religion, the fundies will adopt the "lesser evil" position. That and fundies also tend to hold racist, sexist, and other reactionary views.
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)Fundies could have redeemed themselves somewhat if they rejected the horrible excuse for a human being heading the GOP ticket, but they probably helped him win in the first place.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Response to Martin Eden (Reply #14)
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anamandujano
(7,004 posts)"Overall, Americans appear to be relatively uninspired by their choices for president with less than eight weeks to go before the election. One out of every five likely voters said they do not support Clinton or Trump for president."
machoneman
(3,999 posts)Yeah! That is great news indeed. It is notable that even a short absence on the campaign does have a negative effect. Thankfully it is short lived.
question everything
(47,440 posts)after two weeks of being "tame."