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WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:58 AM Sep 2016

S. Korea: We'll kill Kim Jong Un if we have to

Source: USA Today

(NEWSER) – This should calm tensions on the Korean peninsula. Asked in parliament on Wednesday whether South Korea had a plan in place to take out North Korean leader Kim Jong Un should the need arise, the country's defense minister didn't beat around the bush. "Yes, we do have such a plan," Han Min-koo replied, per CNN, which called the response "candid" and surprising to some. "If it becomes clear the enemy is moving to attack the South with nuclear missile, in order to suppress its aims, the concept [of the special forces] is to destroy key figures and areas [that] include the North Korean leadership," Han said, per Korea Times.

CNN reports this special forces unit is already assembled, but other reports suggest it's still a concept. UPI reports Han also said the country needs half-a-million active-duty soldiers in order to fend off a hypothetical attack from the North, which has 1.2 million. In an appearance before the UN General Assembly on Thursday, South Korea's foreign minister questioned North Korea's fitness to be a "peace-loving UN member." This is notable, reports the Korea Times, in that the South has not officially spoken out against the North's membership in the 15 years the North has had it. The country "is totally ridiculing the authority of the General Assembly and the Security Council," Yun Byung-se said. (North Korea has only 28 websites.)

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/24/south-korea-kim-jong-un/91020288/



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S. Korea: We'll kill Kim Jong Un if we have to (Original Post) WhiteTara Sep 2016 OP
Work on Un's paranoia. Say, "We have agents positioned inside to act on a moment's notice." TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #1
I'd say only 50% of that inner circle are sadists. The others simply fear for their lives. randome Sep 2016 #11
Yep. But, if the fear within the inner circle grows too great, self-preservation might force a coup. TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #13
We can hope. randome Sep 2016 #19
Take down the fence and welcome the NK people to SK. Kim Jong Un won't be able to stop them. Sunlei Sep 2016 #2
There probably isn't a North Korean within 50 miles of the border. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #3
I think North Koreans are rather fond of Un and of their government 6chars Sep 2016 #4
I wonder what makes you think so. Cal33 Sep 2016 #5
Read up on it. The propaganda works. 6chars Sep 2016 #14
I do hope rtracey Sep 2016 #7
what a stupid remark. The North Koreans are miserable. trueblue2007 Sep 2016 #9
They SHOULD be miserable. That doesn't mean they are. randome Sep 2016 #12
My Intelligence class - Folks in DPRK have been indoctrinated to hate and fear the West. TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #15
They are taught that all their problems are caused ripcord Sep 2016 #23
You make it sound like North Korea is Baltimore. PersonNumber503602 Sep 2016 #16
It is the country that they've known, they've grown up in, they will protect if invaded. TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #18
So SK just gave Kim Jong Un the justification, in his mind, to throw whatever he has at SK. Stupid Purveyor Sep 2016 #6
or rtracey Sep 2016 #8
Like Un ever needed any justification geomon666 Sep 2016 #10
Picky, I know canetoad Sep 2016 #17
Thank you geomon666 Sep 2016 #21
My pleasure canetoad Sep 2016 #22
They may have only 28 websites lordsummerisle Sep 2016 #20
Heh...the irony... Xolodno Sep 2016 #24

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
1. Work on Un's paranoia. Say, "We have agents positioned inside to act on a moment's notice."
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:29 PM
Sep 2016

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Un will purge a couple of hundred more people from his inner circles.


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randome

(34,845 posts)
11. I'd say only 50% of that inner circle are sadists. The others simply fear for their lives.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:49 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
13. Yep. But, if the fear within the inner circle grows too great, self-preservation might force a coup.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:59 PM
Sep 2016
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. We can hope.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:39 PM
Sep 2016

But I don't have a lot of optimism. Putin has backpedaled on many of the reforms Gorbachev put into place. And China is still China with a sometimes famine-ridden North Korea next door.

At least Cuba has opened up. I hope they don't backpedal, too.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. Take down the fence and welcome the NK people to SK. Kim Jong Un won't be able to stop them.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

China would never allow that, obvious with the open border and all the heavy ground trails back & forth.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
7. I do hope
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Sep 2016

I do hope you are being sarcastic. These people in this area are completely under the thumb of Trump...ahhhh I mean Un...sorry must have been a Freudian slip.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. They SHOULD be miserable. That doesn't mean they are.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:51 PM
Sep 2016

Nearly 70 years since the establishment of North Korea, why haven't these miserable people revolted against their government? It's because they're afraid and they're brainwashed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
15. My Intelligence class - Folks in DPRK have been indoctrinated to hate and fear the West.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Sep 2016

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A serious panopticon exists where people are afraid of who are loyalists and who are freedom-wishers exists.

Family members are often put in the position to rat out other family members to save the rest of the family.


However, since young children, they are fed the daily thoughts that the West is bad and if the US invades, to fight to the death. We've seen this with the Japanese during WWII. It required the Emperor to tell his country to stand down. It is their country, and they do have national loyalty to it. Most do not know any other way of life, since they are cut off from the outside world, under penalty of death or imprisonment.

Thinking any different is akin to how the US thought the Iraqi's would immediately embrace Western democracy. It's a concept that completely goes against any institutional and social constructs they've ever known, and will be difficult to express and change.

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ripcord

(5,311 posts)
23. They are taught that all their problems are caused
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:05 PM
Sep 2016

by the west and they don't get any outside information to counter this.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
16. You make it sound like North Korea is Baltimore.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:09 PM
Sep 2016

But I have it on good authority that people in North Korea smile.

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
18. It is the country that they've known, they've grown up in, they will protect if invaded.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Sep 2016

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Many apply Western views on DPRK, when their citizens have grown up and are used to that society.


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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
6. So SK just gave Kim Jong Un the justification, in his mind, to throw whatever he has at SK. Stupid
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:51 PM
Sep 2016

fucking statement, imo.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
24. Heh...the irony...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:14 AM
Sep 2016

China is more likely to "off" Un than South Korea. Then again, maybe they want this nut bag with paranoia to focus on them...to make it easier for Beijing to "Un has gone ill and his brother [who was groomed for the position, but didn't want it...because he knew the shit would hit the fan eventually] will assume the heavy mantle he never wanted."

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