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molova

(543 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:14 PM Sep 2016

4chan and Reddit bombarded debate polls to declare Trump the winner

Source: Daily Dot

You may be getting trolled right now without even knowing it.

Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night.

The efforts originated from users of the pro-Trump Reddit community r/The_Donald and 4chan messaged boards, which bombarded around 70 polls, including those launched by Time, Fortune, and CNBC.

Read more: http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/

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4chan and Reddit bombarded debate polls to declare Trump the winner (Original Post) molova Sep 2016 OP
Those Idiots Don't Know How To Wipe Their Own Asses.... Grassy Knoll Sep 2016 #1
Online polls are meaningless - OhZone Sep 2016 #2
Well they sure wasted their time C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #3
Don't burst Trump's little bubble; he'll have a sad. He's been quoting the polls all day. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #7
If The Republican uses bogus, gamed, poll numbers he probably uses other 'cheats' to pretend he wins Sunlei Sep 2016 #38
No they didnt........... Old Vet Sep 2016 #33
the story become about cheating polls C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #35
4chan should be investigated by the DOJ mwrguy Sep 2016 #4
I can assure you that there are lots of eyes on 4chan. Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #6
For this? I don't think trolling online polls is considered a crime. PersonNumber503602 Sep 2016 #24
We're hitting hyperbole levels which shouldn't even be possible! MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #26
A false narrative that nobody believed Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #5
This was utterly predictable and those polls should be retired permanently. Foggyhill Sep 2016 #8
Or you could create a ton of money by scripting a poll justiceischeap Sep 2016 #25
I think here on DU we may have some sleeper trolls who Lint Head Sep 2016 #9
Good point elmac Sep 2016 #14
Losers with too much time on their hands rumdude Sep 2016 #10
Of course they did. LisaL Sep 2016 #11
Except for CNN's ailsagirl Sep 2016 #16
All online polls are worthless Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #28
What was very telling were the thirty florida voters CNN had watch the debate............. Old Vet Sep 2016 #34
And Newty called it an 'historic victory' this morning. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #12
I thought he was supposed to have "an ounce of brains" ailsagirl Sep 2016 #17
Trump did win elmac Sep 2016 #13
Are these the "400 pound" guys? FailureToCommunicate Sep 2016 #15
he said that the "400 pound" man sitting on a bed, what did he mean by that statement? Sunlei Sep 2016 #21
Trump's idea of an international cyber mischief maker. Or maybe he was referring to his 10 yr old son, FailureToCommunicate Sep 2016 #23
The sterotype of the fat hacker in his basement. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #41
ok, now I see what he meant. That's how trump sees his 4chan and Reddit fans. Sunlei Sep 2016 #44
Yup. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #40
Yeah, and according to Drudge poll tRump won the debate Huuuuugely groundloop Sep 2016 #18
Trumps 10 yr old son doing the cyber GusBob Sep 2016 #19
You truly have to be STUPID to believe that world wide wally Sep 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #22
Nobody takes online polls seriously, anyway daleo Sep 2016 #27
Trump & Deplorables take them seriously enough to trumpet them on media. They look like fools. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #31
Ho hum. No one except hard core Trump supporters will give that a second glance. Nitram Sep 2016 #29
Some 4channers and redditors, I assume, are good people. bullwinkle428 Sep 2016 #30
reddit seems to be an ordinary mix. 4chan is a mix of pranksters and deplorables. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #32
Reddit is a reflection of humanity. Xithras Sep 2016 #39
anyone believes that 4chan supports trump or hillary has no idea what they are talking about. Javaman Sep 2016 #36
I think they want Trump just to see what happens. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #42
there is that. nt Javaman Sep 2016 #43
It's news that online polls get skewed? Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #37

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
2. Online polls are meaningless -
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:19 PM
Sep 2016

this goes back to the 90's or early 2000's. Freeping polls it was called back then, when freepers did it.

They prolly still do.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. If The Republican uses bogus, gamed, poll numbers he probably uses other 'cheats' to pretend he wins
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:06 AM
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Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
33. No they didnt...........
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

I actually mentioned in a post that during the end of the the debate I visited FR and they were ACTIVELY freeping polls and had figured a way to make one click to one poll go to five polls. I don't know how but it obviously made a difference, Trump winning so many polls was just bullshit in the first degree.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
35. the story become about cheating polls
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
Sep 2016

Donald didn't win squat and the freeper4chanaltright clowns totally wasted their time.
They will look even more stupid in the light of real polls.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
8. This was utterly predictable and those polls should be retired permanently.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:29 PM
Sep 2016

I can write scripts (or programs for more efficiency
to vote hundreds of thousands of times (possibly millions...)
from the tens of thousands of IP address my company controls
(or use someone else's computer if I'm more malicious about it).

Got 30 years of computer/systems and software engineering behind me so it's child's play.

It's like those media company are idiots or just don't care. Retire those "polls".

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
9. I think here on DU we may have some sleeper trolls who
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:33 PM
Sep 2016

wait for the right moment to post concern or flamebait or attack polls we reference. I'm just speculating. Not accusing anyone. It's been on my mind since this unusual primary season has been made even more unusual by the Orange Man and the minions who follow him. If they can outwardly spout racism, misogyny and xenophobIa I think they would do just about anything. DU is an often cited website by the altered right, white supremacy folks. They know who we are.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
34. What was very telling were the thirty florida voters CNN had watch the debate.............
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

I believe 90% thought Clinton won the debate and the few trump supporters just not knowing what to say. One can only hope that everyone votes Straight down ticket, That would be cool, Its VITAL we get control to nominate supremes.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
15. Are these the "400 pound" guys?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 11:10 PM
Sep 2016

I spoke to two people today who both said they heard the polls showing Trump the big winner. I asked if they themselves watched and each said nope.

To top that off I heard an NPR political wag this morning repeat all the anti-Hillary things Trump said he 'wanted to say but was too polite'!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. he said that the "400 pound" man sitting on a bed, what did he mean by that statement?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 04:02 AM
Sep 2016

Couple of online polls allowed people to vote more then once, they were bogus. When a poll is compromised by a couple bots voting hundreds of times, the owner of the website shouldn't let the polls be used by anyone.

IMO, online communities are a powerful force but the owners of those communities have a responsibility compromised data (cheated-botted polls) are not released as fact.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
23. Trump's idea of an international cyber mischief maker. Or maybe he was referring to his 10 yr old son,
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:36 AM
Sep 2016

the "cyber expert". The one he'll install as the next head of NSA?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
44. ok, now I see what he meant. That's how trump sees his 4chan and Reddit fans.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
Sep 2016

Donald got some good polls free, out of a few of them and then he insults them.

Response to molova (Original post)

daleo

(21,317 posts)
27. Nobody takes online polls seriously, anyway
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:46 AM
Sep 2016

We all know they can be "freeped" or "DUed" - now we can add "4Channed" to the list.

Nitram

(22,788 posts)
29. Ho hum. No one except hard core Trump supporters will give that a second glance.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:10 AM
Sep 2016

Nothing to see here, folks.

Javaman

(62,515 posts)
36. anyone believes that 4chan supports trump or hillary has no idea what they are talking about.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:49 AM
Sep 2016

the people at 4chan skewed the poll results for lulz an that is it.

if you ever inhabit 4chan, the majority of think trump is a fool but at the same time have a low opinion of hillary as well.

they skewed the polls simply because they can.

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