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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:38 AM Sep 2016

Fox News Tells Hosts to Stop Citing Unscientific Polls Showing Trump Won Debate

Source: Mediaite

by Alex Griswold | 11:02 am, September 28th, 2016

In a memo Tuesday, Fox News vice president of public-opinion research Dana Blanton reminded the network’s talent that online post-debates polls were unscientific and should not be cited in their reporting.

“As most of the publications themselves clearly state, the sample obviously can’t be representative of the electorate because they only reflect the views of those Internet users who have chosen to participate,” said the memo, obtained by Business Insider. Blanton noted that campaigns and supporters often directed people towards such polls in order to skew the results.

“News networks and other organizations go to great effort and rigor to conduct scientific polls — for good reason,” Blanton continued. “They know quick vote items posted on the web are nonsense, not true measures of public opinion.”

The memo comes amid a PR blitz by the Donald Trump campaign to reframe his Monday debate performance as a win. Online post-debate polls from websites like the Drudge Report showed Trump winning by wide margins, while scientific polls showed that voters thought Hillary Clinton trounced Trump.

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Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-tells-hosts-to-stop-citing-unscientific-polls-showing-trump-won-debate/

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Fox News Tells Hosts to Stop Citing Unscientific Polls Showing Trump Won Debate (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
good, but that won't stop them being used on 1200 radio stations every day all day.... certainot Sep 2016 #1
The more they do the more ignorant (of trolling) and stupid they look. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #3
RW Authoritarian Followers are such ignorant suckers. Claim to be "informed" but get taken often. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #2
Let them say that Trump is leading. SpankMe Sep 2016 #4
Poor Hannity hibbing Sep 2016 #5
Could this be the first change of many HAB911 Sep 2016 #6
The boys hate Ailes charlyvi Sep 2016 #13
Yeap. Xolodno Sep 2016 #15
Fox Propaganda Network Blue Idaho Sep 2016 #7
Fox does not want to be caught like they were in 2012 when they were telling people Romney .... Botany Sep 2016 #8
Nor do they want a repeat of BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #10
i can't stomach Rove talking about Ohio Botany Sep 2016 #12
"BTW Kelly's 2012 walk was staged" BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #27
I know the 2 lawyers who doing the work looking into OH 2004 and .... Botany Sep 2016 #28
Just so sad. BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #30
Wait... Did you just say the FOX Network's Talent? Osakagreg Sep 2016 #9
In some contexts, central scrutinizer Sep 2016 #23
In the news industry "Talent" is actually a dirty word. Nt justiceischeap Sep 2016 #25
Wow! That sounds ethical! pandr32 Sep 2016 #11
Amazing. With Ailes gone, do they actually want to restore some credibility to their reporting>? Nitram Sep 2016 #14
Good thing Sean Hannity isn't a "reporter". brooklynite Sep 2016 #16
He's also not a "talent" NobodyHere Sep 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Sep 2016 #17
Hell has frozen over meow2u3 Sep 2016 #18
Hahahahahaaaa truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #20
Since when has Fox supported science? tclambert Sep 2016 #21
WHOA!! ............ it sounds like pigs may be flying soon Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #22
Trump himself told his rally crowd that he won--and mentioned these Troll polls--time. etc. riversedge Sep 2016 #24
Whaaaaat? This was a FOX News memo?! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #26
Online polls are just special sauce Hint: Chrome Incognito View, the Google feature Freepers use Monk06 Sep 2016 #29
I want Trump to think he won ThoughtCriminal Sep 2016 #31
What? Now a memo? Thor_MN Sep 2016 #32

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
3. The more they do the more ignorant (of trolling) and stupid they look.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:52 AM
Sep 2016

People saw and heard the debate.

"You can fool all of the people some of the time..."

The RW talk radio audience and the deplorables fit this part: "You can fool some of the people all of the time."

But the more they try to make it seem like Trump won, the more on balance they lose voters.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
2. RW Authoritarian Followers are such ignorant suckers. Claim to be "informed" but get taken often.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:49 AM
Sep 2016

Trump is only the most obvious con they've fallen for. Hook line and sinker.

SpankMe

(2,937 posts)
4. Let them say that Trump is leading.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Sep 2016

It'll motivate Hillary voters to get out and vote, and it'll make Trump voters complacent and possibly allow them to skip voting because they think it's "in the bag".

hibbing

(10,076 posts)
5. Poor Hannity
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:16 PM
Sep 2016

He'll have to take that little thing out of his repertoire. Of course he has plenty of other half-truths and lies to replace it with.

Peace

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
13. The boys hate Ailes
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:37 PM
Sep 2016

Who is involved with the Trump campaign. Maybe that's it. I have read somewhere, can't remember where though, that the sons would like to bring Fox news towards the center politically, rather than the far right where Ailes' leadership took it.

Xolodno

(6,330 posts)
15. Yeap.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

They knew Ailes was going far right for short term ratings gain. And he would be long gone when the ratings started to "die off". Leaving them with the mess to fix it.

Problem is, how do you move from hard right to center? It will have to be very gradual.

Blue Idaho

(4,988 posts)
7. Fox Propaganda Network
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:41 PM
Sep 2016

Is trying to cover its ass. This is more about plausible deniability than cleaning up it's act.

Botany

(70,289 posts)
8. Fox does not want to be caught like they were in 2012 when they were telling people Romney ....
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:56 PM
Sep 2016

..... was going to win and then he lost in a landslide and all those people who lived in "the Fox
bubble" were gob smacked.

No doubt that Fox has internal polls and projections that show Trump losing in a landslide.


Botany

(70,289 posts)
12. i can't stomach Rove talking about Ohio
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:19 PM
Sep 2016

I was in the belly of the beast in OH in 2004 and Rove/Blackwell/Connell stole it.

And what really pisses me of is that the media knows that it was stolen and they don't
say shit.

BTW Kelly's 2012 walk was staged.

BumRushDaShow

(127,292 posts)
27. "BTW Kelly's 2012 walk was staged"
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:14 PM
Sep 2016

She actually admitted to that during the clip too - going on to further say that when they "rehearsed" the walk, she would lose audio in her earpiece at a specific spot in the corridor each time.

The insane thing about the 2004 debacle was the fact that Rove's IT guy who set that vote count diversion up, died in a small plane crash right when they started investigating the mess in 2008 I believe.

Botany

(70,289 posts)
28. I know the 2 lawyers who doing the work looking into OH 2004 and ....
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:37 PM
Sep 2016

..... they had warned Connell and the Justice Dept. that his life was under threat
and that on 2 prior occasions Connell did not fly his small plane becuase he did
not think things seemed right.

Osakagreg

(111 posts)
9. Wait... Did you just say the FOX Network's Talent?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

"Fox News vice president of public-opinion research Dana Blanton reminded the network’s talent that online post-debates polls were unscientific and should not be cited in their reporting."

Call it what you will!

pandr32

(11,446 posts)
11. Wow! That sounds ethical!
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:15 PM
Sep 2016

Is there hope that the created wooden propaganda puppet wants to become a real boy?

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

meow2u3

(24,743 posts)
18. Hell has frozen over
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:54 PM
Sep 2016

Pigs have sprouted wings and were seen flying overhead and news just broke that a bear was spotted crapping in the cat's litterbox.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
26. Whaaaaat? This was a FOX News memo?!
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:13 PM
Sep 2016


If "Trump TV" ever becomes reality, I wonder if FOX will become more sane as Trump pulls away their most nutty demographic?

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
29. Online polls are just special sauce Hint: Chrome Incognito View, the Google feature Freepers use
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:45 PM
Sep 2016

to spam the polls It allows you to block cookies so you don't have to keep rebooting to dump your cache

One of the reasons I noticed that online polls were so skewed, other than Freeper calls to spam them, is that Clinton won so obviously that Democratic supporters were too busy enjoying the victory.

They didn't want to bother playing the shit poll spamming game when the result was so obvious

ThoughtCriminal

(14,010 posts)
31. I want Trump to think he won
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:31 PM
Sep 2016

So he'll keep doing the same thing.

Oh, pretty please, let's spend more time and get nasty about Miss Universe, Foundations and Bill Clinton.



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