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Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:53 AM

 

Ohio State attacker said he was 'scared' to pray in public

Source: CNN

He said he wanted to pray in public on the campus of his new university but he was afraid for his safety as a Muslim

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-attacker-abdul-razak-ali-artan/index.html



Then he goes out and runs over/stabs random college students....

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Reply Ohio State attacker said he was 'scared' to pray in public (Original post)
GummyBearz Nov 2016 OP
cstanleytech Nov 2016 #1
Archae Nov 2016 #2
ronnie624 Nov 2016 #22
ck4829 Nov 2016 #3
GummyBearz Nov 2016 #4
ck4829 Nov 2016 #5
heaven05 Nov 2016 #11
heaven05 Nov 2016 #12
bluecoat_fan Nov 2016 #6
Bradical79 Nov 2016 #7
cwydro Nov 2016 #8
NobodyHere Nov 2016 #13
Sunlei Nov 2016 #9
heaven05 Nov 2016 #10
Sunlei Nov 2016 #14
Botany Nov 2016 #15
heaven05 Nov 2016 #23
TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2016 #25
snooper2 Nov 2016 #30
heaven05 Nov 2016 #34
Rustyeye77 Nov 2016 #35
heaven05 Nov 2016 #39
cwydro Nov 2016 #40
heaven05 Nov 2016 #41
cwydro Nov 2016 #43
Sorceress Nov 2016 #16
LakeArenal Nov 2016 #17
AngryAmish Nov 2016 #18
GummyBearz Nov 2016 #19
Elmergantry Nov 2016 #26
dembotoz Nov 2016 #20
GummyBearz Nov 2016 #21
dembotoz Nov 2016 #42
sarisataka Nov 2016 #24
get the red out Nov 2016 #27
katsy Nov 2016 #28
hrmjustin Nov 2016 #29
Quackers Nov 2016 #37
Calista241 Nov 2016 #31
GummyBearz Nov 2016 #33
Rustyeye77 Nov 2016 #32
leftynyc Nov 2016 #45
ananda Nov 2016 #36
Rustyeye77 Nov 2016 #38
hollowdweller Nov 2016 #44

Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:59 AM

1. Ya, like that justifies being an asshole.............not. nt

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:03 AM

2. Another fucking radical.

Doesn't matter what religion they are, radicals are trouble.

This guy fell for the bullshit ISIS was spreading.

And now the fundy Christians are claiming trump as the latest incarnation of Jesus.

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Response to Archae (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:04 AM

22. Extremist, not radical.

And obviously, mentally ill.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:23 AM

3. Speaks to something in his head

If you turn enough corners or go into enough stairwells, you may find a Muslim praying. I've heard of no complaints about this. And the times I've seen this, Muslims don't act like I violated some sacred space.

In other words, seemed like a personal problem.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:30 AM

4. Sounds like he was just primed for radicalization

 

Stairwells and corners? When I was an undergrad (2000-2005, so post 9/11) my university had a large park in the middle of it. Muslims would be praying individually or in small groups all the time. Didn't need to go into any stairwells or secret rooms to find them. And no one cared, everyone just went about their business of walking to class, reading the campus newspaper, throwing frisbees, etc

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:33 AM

5. People pray openly too, I see that as well

I just included that because some people do want a private, secluded space and it's understandable. But yeah, nobody cares.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:06 AM

11. You CANNOT speak

 

for every white person living there. How dare you!!! But maybe you are able to easily hide.

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:06 AM

12. that was then

 

THIS IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:06 AM

6. I live here, he could pray anywhere on campus.

There are lots of places or go to the Oval. He has only been going a few months, so sounds like an excuse to me.

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Response to bluecoat_fan (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:14 AM

7. Yup.

 

I think the current political enviroment with Trump being elected, white nationalists being emboldened, etc. just snapped an already angry, fragile, mind.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:22 AM

8. Well, he can speak to his deity in person now.

So to speak.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:43 AM

13. Well assuming his diety even wants to speak with him.

 

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:56 AM

9. He wrote a long 'I can't take it anymore' rant on facebook & then he went all out postal

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:04 AM

10. maybe the fear

 

made him snap. There is enough hate against him in this society NOW as has been hidden always before. Just because he goes off, he has to be radical ISIS and all that. I see a PoC doesn't stand a chance if he/she retaliates in an inappropriate manner out of fear of the rampant WHITE trumpfuhrer brownshirt hate cadres out there.

I was on my local predominantly white campus last evening and the backward baseball cap wearing young white males are fucking swaggering in their walk and talk. Walking shoulder to shoulder and people are getting out of their way. One turned and looked at me. I met his look, hard. He could have come on and I would have tried to kill him. He did not look kindly on this 69 year old vet of color so I will not damn the student in this piece. His fear overrode his reason. You all who are acting outraged, you don't face this racist shit.Civility, playing nice????? Out the window for this PoC anywhere and everywhere. Kindness will be met with kindness, hate will be met with appropriate measure of hate with dripping contempt.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:10 AM

14. fear from a media that takes a "1-line muslim hate tweet" & USA gets spammed /w a billion headlines.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:14 AM

15. Please Ohio State has a large and active Muslim Student Association ....

..... and the community and campus is very welcoming to muslims.

I live 2 miles from where this happened too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:16 AM

23. PLEASE

 

they also have a large and active trumpbunch there. Don't, just don't. Campus welcoming, probably.......AmeriKKKa has proved it's exceptionalism with this past election and the exceptional upcoming POTUS in waiting. It has an exceptionally evil man as POTUS-elect that has unleashed his racist dogs everywhere in the streets and on the campuses of this exceptional nation....now. The campus I live near has called itself liberal for decades, but since the election of the exceptional fuhrer in waiting, nooses, swastiKKKas, the one that I liked, white women, don't date n****** written on a very public kiosk. Please yourself on your outlook, mine is more realistic.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:02 PM

25. He never even said he was harassed.

No, he said he was worried because people could see him praying so he might get harassed.

What an asshole. He was a bully with a car and a butcher knife.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:37 PM

30. I guess the poor little thing just needed a couple hugs so he wouldn't become a fucking

 

murderous asshole right?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:45 PM

34. WELL if you two

 

don't fade into the mob which I figure will happen given what I have read here the last couple of years when some unarmed PoC is murdered by some pig with a badge and a gun, whether you have the compassion or more than likely not there is a lot of worry out here among "the marked". Trumpfuhrer and his brownshirt racists will have a field day with the unresisting. But you, like I said can fade into the mob which I suspect many shall do. I have faced reality about this country for many decades and a lot of people are not going to be able to deal, they are going to snap. I've been facing racist ameriKKKa for a long time and in Vietnam and on the streets I never let a white person treat me as an unequal. Some of these immigrants don't understand what cowards racist really are. Brave in a group, but when I got a couple in an elevator and they pissed all over themselves, I left laughing as they sniveled. You who won't have to worry, skin color wise, don't really faze me with your snark. I have grown accustomed to the open arrogance and privilege some always fall back on. Trump will wipe the smirk off of a lot of peoples faces. That reality is going to hurt a certain kind of citizen, not AA. I always knew my rights here were tenuous. No surprise you now have to fade into the howling mob because ignorant, stupid people believed a con man with no political experience. Stupid, stupid ameriKKKans may you get what you voted for.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:53 PM

35. Wow... I think you reached your "Boiling Point"

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:06 PM

39. I am extremely livid

 

that some ameriKKKans can think, think mind you, that they can actually send us back 50-100 years where I will have to avert my gaze from the superior ameriKKKan walking toward me, get off the sidewalk when some superior ameriKKKan walks toward me, drink out of separate fountains for 'coloreds' only, toilets the same, not cleaned EVER. Have to print an updated 'green book' for AA and brown minority drivers going nationwide to be able to avoid superior ameriKKKans lynch mob towns, although that will probably be a good idea with the ignorant folks that think they run the country now. Just an example of what I remember growing up in the south.

Goddamn right I'm angry that I have to fight off the WHITE racist hordes with their kiss ass minority running dog lackeys for the next four years. Most others can just fade into the blood thirsty mob. I saw that in the 50's and 60's. Most white folks and those who kiss ass enough or who have enough self hate to follow the trumpfuhrer won't have a thing to worry about. It is the 'marked' ones I am concerned about. Deja Vu anyone? This country is about to get ugly as a place to live. All who want to can soft pedal this result of the election, my eyes are wide open to what and who I will have to be extremely wary with for the next 4 years. "Bright shining light", my ass. More like a descent into a proverbial white racist hell. And just like those demons they follow, they are legion. Goddamn right I'm "boiling".

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:18 PM

40. Surely you're not excusing what this POS did?

I hope not.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:33 PM

41. no excuse for

 

the murderous action, I do understand how fear probably made his mind snap. The issues were already there, just needed a real or imagined incident to cause reaction. I will never excuse murder as I have seen people here excuse in the case of unarmed PoC being murdered by authorities of the state all over this country AND private wanna be "neighborhood watch' citizens. And they usually started their rationalization with the words "thug", "criminal past" ect. No I am not one of those types that I have seen speak out, in favor of murder of unarmed citizens and in this case student citizens, here. He is dead. He is no more problem. The people he hurt and killed they have my hopes they can heal and more importantly, move on with their lives.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:02 PM

43. I understand what you're saying.

As far as that "neighborhood watch" cretin, I sincerely hope karma catches up with him one day.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:16 AM

16. Yeah, No. That's not going to fly.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:29 AM

17. All the reasons Christians need to not pray in public....


Matthew, Chapter 6

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men.Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:34 AM

18. His motivations will always remain unknown.

 

In the age of Trump he must have felt victimized.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:56 AM

19. He gave the interview months ago

 

When trump was expected to lose

edit: It seems his motivations were made clear on his last facebook post:


"... he said in a Facebook post that he had reached a “boiling point” and was “sick and tired” of seeing Muslims around the globe “killed and tortured,” law enforcement officials told CNN and NBC.

The post said the U.S. should stop “interfering” in the Muslim world and referenced “lone wolf” attacks."

http://nypost.com/2016/11/28/officials-investigating-ohio-state-attack-as-an-act-of-terror/

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:10 PM

26. guess it didnt occur to him

 

That it is mostly muslims killing muslims. So attack the infidel. What a putz.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:00 AM

20. we will not know his personal hell

while the ohio state community my be accepting perhaps the part where he lived was not.

if we have learned anything over the years in dealing with bullies it is that things are often hidden.

one of my proudest moment as a father was when i was told my lovable oversized lug of a son took on the
playground bully who was pushing a kid around during recess...They literally duked it out until the teachers broke it up.
somehow my kid never got reported...seems the teachers knew the bully was a problem and they did nothing.
Found out from other hockey parents telling me they were so proud of my son doing what he did.

perhaps there was no one holp this kid and violence resulted

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:02 AM

21. Glad your son did what he did

 

Instead of driving a car into a crowd and then stabbing people he didn't even know. That just seems like an overreaction... Just maybe.

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:46 PM

42. Perhaps less terrorist, more someone pushed too far

Perhaps we will never know

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:13 PM

24. Obviously,

he's the victim in this tragedy. Absolutely no other course of action was available but to calm his fears by trying to kill his fellow students

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:19 PM

27. Yes

He could have definitely voiced his concerns in non-violent ways. It takes a sick SOB to try to kill innocent people.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:37 PM

28. All murderers are sociopaths

Idk why religion, place of birth or race should ever enter the discussion.

It may be that sociopaths are easier to radicalize but wtf does that have to do with the price of apples in singapore.

I reject "terrorism" as a valid basis of for a new set of crimes. Anyone think the people doing the radicalizing are fucking sane? If anything, barely sane politicians use identifying info to manipulate the masses.

Just because humanity hasn't progressed far enuf in its knowledge of chemical or hardwiring of the brain to understand why murderers kill doesn't mean we need to continue our pathetically inept path of searching for convenient demons.

A murderer tried to kill people. It's a crime. He's dead.

Stop the witch hunt. Take mental health issues out of the political arena. It's abusive to law abiding people who happen to share community or race with a criminal.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:04 PM

29. I am glad they took the terrorist out.

 

Will be interesting to see if he self radicalized or was a part of a cell.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 07:14 PM

37. Agreed, justin.

I just don't understand the post that try to paint this guy as a victim.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 04:36 PM

31. Don't they have "safe spaces" at all colleges now?

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #31)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:31 PM

33. Apparently not for those who were ran over and stabbed

 

Wasn't so safe for them

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:18 PM

32. I want to show love and understanding..

of his plight. it is tough.

We need to embrace multiculturalism.

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:21 PM

45. I have no desire

 

to understand his plight. He's an attempted murderer and now he's dead. I'm just grateful nobody else died.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:55 PM

36. Well

For all that constant praying they do, it doesn't seem
to be having a positive effect on anything or anyone
these days.

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Response to ananda (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:00 PM

38. Depends on what your definition of positive effect is.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:11 PM

44. Yet he wasn't afraid to run over people or stab them at close range with a knife.

 



Strange......

Also interesting if he knew anything at all about the election that he would do something that might cause more people to be afraid to be associated with Islam.

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