'Against our dignity': Mexico vows never to pay for Trump's wall

[highplainsdem]

Source: The Guardian

Mexico’s president, Enrique Peña Nieto, has rejected any suggestions of his country paying for a border wall and pledged to sign an updated free-trade agreement with the European Union as he seeks to diversify the economy away from the United States.

Speaking in uncharacteristically stern and straightforward language, Peña Nieto told an audience of Mexican diplomats: “All matters that define our bilateral relationship are on the table including security, immigration and commerce.”

But he said any negotiations must include touchy topics for Americans, including putting an end to the flow of illegal guns across the border and arming deadly drug cartels.

“It is evident that we have differences with the new United States government on some issues, such as a wall that Mexico absolutely will not pay for,” Peña Nieto said. “At no time will we accept anything that goes against our dignity as a country and our dignity as Mexicans.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/12/against-our-dignity-mexico-vows-never-to-pay-for-trumps-wall

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The article also refers to an Ipsos poll that found that 57% of Mexicans would rather abandon Nafta than give in to Trump's demands.

Here's a link to the poll (findings in Spanish):

http://ipsosmexicoblog.mx/57-donald-trump-y-el-tlcan

[NNadir]

1. Four years of Trump, and Mexicans will be talking about keeping American refugees out of their...

...country.

Since Trump is a traitor who will leave American security in a shambles, he may have to beg for Russian assistance to prevent the Mexican army from retaking the territory they lost in 1848.

[burrowowl]

2. Ditto!

[Feeling the Bern]

7. They did that once, and Americans broke in, stole the land, refused to follow Mexican law, revolted,

and that's the history of Texas.

All the Americans had to do was:

1: Become Mexican citizens
2: Learn Spanish
3: Become Catholic

And the Mexican government welcomed them. They refused to do all three, so the Mexicans sealed the border. Them Americans began illegally immigrating into Mexico, so Mexico began enforcing its immigration laws.

And there you go. Americans did this to Mexico twice. . .once in 1836. Again in the Great American Landgrab of 1846.

[HoneyBadger]

9. All they had to do was to become a Catholic?

Try that today, see how far you get.

[Feeling the Bern]

10. They had to do three things: Become Mexican, speak Spanish, become Catholic

Stephen Austin's father told them to go to Hell.

[NNadir]

13. Well, there was one other minor thing of greater importance.

They also had to agree to define their "freedom" as consisting of the right to "own" other human beings who they were totally free to treat like farm animals, or worse than farm animals.

Texas participated in two revolutions within 30 years in order to protect that last "minor" freedom.

Actually, considering the Republicans that Texas now votes for regularly, I kind of am salivating over the possibility that the United States, being lead by a traitor, might become so weak that Mexico can kick whatever cheap cardboard wall the naked emperor puts up, and reconquer the place.

It would be kind of fun to watch Texans be told, "You're in Mexico, asshole, speak Spanish!"

[Feeling the Bern]

14. They also had to give up slaves, since slavery was illegal in Mexico too.

And most of the Americans there were from slave states!

[canetoad]

3. Remember this scene

From the potboiler "The Day After Tomorrow". At the time I laughed till the tears ran down my legs.

[Canoe52]

6. I saw it at the theatre

everyone in the place was laughing their asses off.

[MistakenLamb]

11. my theater cheered

at the forgiving of Latin American dept

[Alice11111]

4. Te' amo', Mexico

Please don't think we are all sympathetic with trumpsters. Most of us cried as we watched our country go down in a coup, and we are embarrassed by and ashamed of him.

[Cha]

5. And, IOW.. "you're a fucking liar, trumpee"

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[Feeling the Bern]

8. If I were in charge of every country Trump as shat on, I'd divest into Europe too.

Then I'd pull my diplomats.

[randr]

12. Just try to win an out Machismo war with Enrique Pea Nieto

This will end up occupying most of Trumps time and could be a good thing.

[Miles Archer]

15. Mexico is not looking for a modeling contract

If Trump slithers backstage to watch Mexico getting dressed, Mexico will fuck him UP.

Mexico is not a p*ssy willing to be grabbed by Trump.

He doesn't get that. He will.

Trump bragged that he walked in on naked beauty pageant contestants
“You see these incredible looking women… I sort of get away with things like that.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-beauty-pageants-naked-2dc4b6c6d507#.msea4cmsd

On an appearance on The Howard Stern Show in 2005, published on Sunday by CNN, Trump described going backstage at the beauty pageants while the contestants were undressed. “Before a show, I’ll go backstage and everyone’s getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” he said. “You know, I’m inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.”

“You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’” he continued. “And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.”