Here are the lies Paul Ryan told about Obamacare during his town hall meeting

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Source: LATimes






Michael HiltzikContact Reporter

We know that House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wisc.) is desperate to repeal the Affordable Care Act. What he never has been able to explain adequately is why.



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Arizona Republican Jeff Jeans confronts Ryan about Obamacare replacement during Thursday's town hall.





--Premium increases. Ryan maintains that premium increases for ACA plans are unsupportable for American families. He expounded on this issue in response to a question from Jeff Jeans, a member of the town hall audience. (See accompanying video.) Jeans described himself as a small business owner and Republican who had been dead set against Obamacare — until he was diagnosed with cancer at age 49.

“Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, I’m standing here today alive,” he said. “I want to thank President Obama from the bottom of my heart, because I would be dead if not for him.”


But when Jeans mentioned that he lived in Arizona, Ryan thought he had a “gotcha.” Pulling a note card from his pocket, he reeled off the premium increases for Arizona and a few other states for 2017. “Arizona — this year, the premium increases for people on Obamacare, 116%,” he said. Oklahoma, Tennessee and Minnesota also had double-digit premium increases......................



A few points need to be made here. First, premiums and deductibles were rising before the ACA, and in many cases, the post-ACA increases are lower than before. Moreover, the four states Ryan mentioned were those with the highest increases in benchmark silver plans — the figures Ryan was using -- for 2017. What he didn’t mention was that increases in many other states were much lower. Arkansas, Ohio and New Hampshire — 2%. In Massachusetts and Indiana, rates actually dropped. ...............



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The LA headline actually called them LIES!!




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House Speaker Paul Ryan, dancing as fast as he can during Thursday's town hall to explain why he's in such a hurry to repeal the Affordable Care Act. (CNN)

[itsrobert]

1. And Anderson Cooper fact checked him in real time?

probably not.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Can not stand that "Holier than Thou" turdball Ryan.

[elmac]

3. The why is simple

repeal will save the uber rich fascists about 15 million bucks a year or abour 2% of their income in taxes. They would murder to save a buck. They are a worse enemy then ISIL ever was.

[myrna minx]

4. K&R

[Rustyeye77]

5. Throw Grandma from cliff

[elleng]

6. Must think it'll get him the presidency some day.

He should live so long!

[Maynar]

7. No, no he shouldn't.

But that's ok.

I get it.

[smirkymonkey]

14. Never, ever, ever will that little turd become president!

He will never live that long.

[LittleGirl]

8. My research says that part of this 118% increase maybe true

I will be moving back to the states (jobless) in March and signed up for Obamacare to have some health insurance. I choose the silver plan because the premium plan is more expensive. (For AZ).

My rates:

670 bucks a month
4,600 deductible
8200 out of pocket max.

How is that affordable? My spouse will be in Europe with local healthcare here and it is no where near as expensive as this plan of mine. After the 2500 deductible, the insurance pays 90% of the costs. This for only 250 a month. Now, that's affordable.

[TexasBushwhacker]

15. The difference is that countries in Europe regulate fees

and drug prices. Hospitals and clinics are non-profit (really non-profit).

[LittleGirl]

16. Yes, exactly. eom

[Hortensis]

9. CNN/previous FOX anchor Alisyn Camerota lied blatantly yesterday

FOR THE RIGHT while supposedly comparing a list of proposed pub health plan points to the ACA's. She explained, in a quick toss-off, that the pub's item "BARE-BONES COVERAGE" kinda just meant that people who didn't need it wouldn't be paying for maternity care.

Of course, BARE-BONES is just what it sounds like. Severely limited coverages for sure, plus they'd likely only kick in after significant deductibles are met and require purchasers to may high coinsurance percentages.

Camerota's "maternity" thing was meant to trigger approval among the ignorant. Right-wing scoundrels have been feeding them a lie that having healthy young people in their risk pools, the kind who may need maternity care but little else, raises premiums for older people with a whole host of problems. As in, "I'm 64. Why should I have to pay for people to have babies?"

Camerota when she was on Fox (obviously)
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[riversedge]

12. It is called Junk insurance (what the #aca helped get rid of)

[Hortensis]

13. I'm very afraid it could include just that under that crew, but

reputable companies did/do sell honest bare-bones policies. Mostly to young, healthy people of course. A really scary option for others who couldn't afford more appropriate coverage, and those pub tax credits would guarantee millions of those.

[DeminPennswoods]

10. Why can't Americans have the same healthcare as Ryan?

That's what people need to start asking because Congress' plan is the same as all federal gov't employees have, FEHB (fed emp health benefits). FEHB is exactly the same as the ACA market and very similar to the Medicare suppliment/advantage market. In fact, the ACA was modeled on FEHB. FEHB has national plans and state specific plans. Anyone can join one of their state's plans or any of the national plans.

[riversedge]

11. K and R for the Sat. am crowd.