Senate GOPer: We're Going To Need Dem Help On Obamacare Replacement

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo


By TIERNEY SNEED Published JANUARY 19, 2017, 11:38 AM EDT

A Senate Republican tempered expectations of what Republicans could do alone to repeal and replace Obamacare, and acknowledged that GOP lawmakers will need Democrats' help to avoid hurting constituents in their overhaul of the health care system.

"From my standpoint, I've been talking about repairing the damage and then transitioning into a system that actually works. That takes some time. It's way more complex than simply 'repeal and replace'," Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) told CNBC's Squawkbox Thursday. "It's a fun little buzzword, but it's just not that accurate."

Johnson said that prior to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, the phrase repeal-and-replace "was appropriate," because the process would have been more feasible.

"You could have put something in place. Nobody would have been harmed. You didn't have already the tentacles of Obamacare, you didn't already have the damage, the destruction, the harm created by Obamacare driving premiums up, distorting health care markets and health insurance markets," Johnson said.

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[mopinko]

1. you didnt have people walking around, alive, because of the aca.

wasnt so obvious we were talking about people's lives.

dems better heed the orders from schumer to let them hang themselves.

[elleng]

2. No sh*t, sherlock!

[lastlib]

35. youre on your own, Toots!

you wanted it, you got it. It's your puppy, you clean up the mess it makes.

And BTW, FUCK the GOPEE!

[Rustyeye77]

3. You broke it, you own it.

talk is cheap....lets see the big repuke plan.

[The Wielding Truth]

4. Tell them to hold their breath. I'd say not to but then again they will kill people to get their way

[MrScorpio]

5. Sorry, guys, this is all on you

FDT.

[mobeau69]

6. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) told CNBC's Squawkbox Thursday, "It's a fun little buzzword..."

Fun little buzzphrase for Johnson: Fuck you. You want us in the pottery store with you but noooooooooooooooo. This shit's on you.

[Tanuki]

16. "fun little buzzword"they lied and have no intention of honoring their pledge. eom

[NCjack]

7. recall and replace DEMs who cooperate to replace ObamaCare. nt

[HughBeaumont]

8. Re-Plops have no plan.

Mostly because it would involve telling non-wealthy Americans "You're Fucked".

[UpInArms]

9. UpInArms to Senate GOP(fucknutter):

Eat Shit and Die.

[cojoel]

29. sadly that is the Senate GOP's replacement plan

They have nothing else.

[cstanleytech]

10. Liars, they just want to bait the Dems into helping and then they will blame them when it

falls apart because other than single payer plan Obamacare was working pretty good for most people and the Republicans know this and at best they would try to pass a watered down plan that does shit to help people.

[Freethinker65]

11. Hey Ron, ask your boss for the folder under the one labeled "how to easily defeat ISIS on day one"

Trump has it all figured out. Super easy. Just ask him.

[Paladin]

12. "the tentacles of Obamacare." And now you want Democratic help?

Fuck yourself into a health problem, Johnson. You and the rest of the repub senators have better coverage than that which you want to deny to millions of Americans.

[volstork]

14. Yeah, well

piss up a rope, ron johnson.

[DinahMoeHum]

15. Dear Senator Johnson: Up Yours, Dipshit.

[Cryptoad]

17. inverse Midas Touch

can anybody name anything the GOP has touched that didn't turn to shit! I can't

[muntrv]

18. Forget it Ron! You are gonna own that!

[herding cats]

19. Dems need to invoke the Pottery Barn rule here.

It's time for the GOP to begin paying for what they break.

[avebury]

20. Heck no!

It would be a suicide mission for the Democrats because the Republicans would toss them off the cliff in the blame game if anything went wrong. They would be Lucy to Charlie Brown.

[lark]

22. They will blame Dems, no matter what, I think we all know that.

If we cooperate, it's our fault it sucks. If we don't cooperate, it's our fault that we didn't make them get a better plan. So, fuck them, one and all. They own healthcare since they broke the ACA. They thought they were so slick with repeal and delay, knowing it would kill the ACA totally and then they could blame everything on the ACA. Drumpf, being a total idiot who wants to pretend at populism, at least until his policies take place, took away their slick plan and is calling for a real plan alongside repeal. Of course, he's lying about what it will do. No one will lose their coverage they have now under ACA is a total blatant lie, but then that's all he's really good for - lying. Price saying all would have "access" is just BS for no help and you die if you get sick and aren't wealthy enough to afford to pay. You would have access, if only you had the $$. Of course, it's wink, wink, nudge nudge with the Repugs about that.

Dems - just say no, often and repeatedly and no matter what unless it's single payer - and it will never be that.

Don't let the Repugs pull a fast one, don't fall for their ploys, just say NO!!!

[avebury]

24. Agreed - but the Dems don't have to aid and abet

in being putting themselves in the line of fire.

[Cosmocat]

28. See, Iraq War Resolution

EVERY right winger automatically dismisses Bush being responsible "dems voted for it, too!"

[Rustyeye77]

21. You gotta be kidding.

"You didn't have already the tentacles of Obamacare, you didn't already have the damage, the destruction, the harm created by Obamacare driving premiums up, distorting health care markets and health insurance markets."


and you want dems help ??


screw you

[BumRushDaShow]

33. EXACTLY!

He begs for help and then proceeds into a robotic, idiotic and disgusting rant about what is in place.

When they call it "Obamacare", it gets the GOP "repeal it all" hate treatment. When it is called the "ACA" - it needs to be "fixed".

[tclambert]

23. Might I compose the Democratic reply: NUTS!

[maxrandb]

25. WTF!!!

"We need Dems support to fix this apocalyptic, horrible, terrible, "very-bad", evil, communist, "destroying America" and "killing Jay-Zus" thing they did"?

Is that about right Fucknut Johnson?

Oh, and those "tentacles" you mentioned. Would those be:

- Ensuring you can't be denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions?
- Eliminating Lifetime and Annual Caps?
- Allowing children to stay on their parents insurance until age 26?
- Requiring that all plans cover routine care with no out of pocket?
- Ensuring you can't be thrown off your health insurance when you get sick?
- Expanding Medicaid to those below the poverty level?
- Closing the Senior Citizens Medicare Prescription Drug donut hole?
- Extending the solvency of Medicare for an additional 50 years?

Are those the "tentacle" you're talking about?

Tell me, ARE THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN THIS FUCKING STUPID???

Let me tell you, Dumbass Johnson, what we used to tell complete morons in the Navy.

"You're the kind of guy that would not only polish a turd...you'd convince yourself you could pick it up by the clean end"

In other words...you're a fucking moron!!!

[Warpy]

26. They were so blinded by hatred of a black man in the White House

that they absolutely missed seeing their own damned plan put into action. Now they're caught out with no clothes on, no other plan, no idea of how to formulate any other plan, and people who voted for them waking up to the fact that their insurance is going away just when they've gotten care, some of them for the first time in their lives.

I think Democrats need to sit on their hands because if there are any flaws with a tinkered and tweaked ACA, you know who will get all the blame for it, "we didn't wanna do that but the mean old liberals forced it!"

We know things are going to be bad for a while, there is no earthly way they will get better with the Stupid Party holding all 3 branches of government. If we let them get really, really bad, maybe we'll lose the Stupid stranglehold for a while.

[Runningdawg]

27. Suck it GOP

[Vinca]

30. They should get as much help as they gave Democrats.

[Imperialism Inc.]

31. This is their strategy to keep Dems from filibustering.

Repeal through reconciliation which only requires 51 votes and then threaten to blame it all on the Dems if they block the replacement bills. "We had a super terrific plan but the Democrats won't let us pass it. It's all their fault."

[COLGATE4]

32. Give them an evasive answer

Tell them to go fuck themselves.

[Blue Idaho]

34. Well, we have this thing called the Affordable Care Act...

We can talk about your terms of surrender after it's passed.

[mwooldri]

36. "prior to the implementation" ... "repeal-and-replace 'was appropriate' " .. how?

Repeal what before what was implemented? You can't repeal anything that wasn't put in place in the first place, so "repeal and replace" before ACA came into play is just nonsense.

The ACA is really RomneyCare - a Republican plan that Obama adopted and modified at the federal level.

My belief is that Obama wanted to get the Republicans on board, tried to meet them part way... the Republicans shut him down. So he and Congress tried what they could without the Republicans on board.

So if the Republicans want Democratic Party help on the plan then here's my advice. Medicare for All or STFU.

[yardwork]

37. Here it comes. It's all the Democrats fault. Lying Republicans!

[briv1016]

38. That way when it all goes to shit, they can blame the democrats.

[keithbvadu2]

39. "You could have put something in place." - Why didn't you?

"You could have put something in place. Nobody would have been harmed."

But you didn't care to do so when Dubya had a republican majority in both Houses of Congress for over half of his eight years.

[Skittles]

40. fuck those fascist bastards

let them OWN THEIR GARBAGE for a change