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mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:39 PM Jan 2017

Trump moves to put his own stamp on Voice of America

Source: Politico

Trump on Monday dispatched two aides to scope out the studios of Voice of America, heightening concerns among some longtime staffers that Trump may quickly put his stamp on the broadcasting arm that has long pushed U.S. democratic ideals across the world.

The arrival of the two aides – both political operatives from Trump’s campaign – comes after Voice of America received blowback over the weekend for sending out a series of tweets about White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s claims about inauguration crowd size that looked to some like an endorsement of his false statements. The news outlet later deleted one of the tweets.

“There’s concern among the journalists about what these guys are going to be doing,” said the senior VOA staffer. “People are hanging tight, seeing what will happen.”

“Irony is that VOA's reason for existing was to provide truth to those who lived where the government controlled the press,” tweeted Stuart Stevens, a former advisor to Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign, in response to the tweet.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/donald-trump-voice-america-234078



“...VOA's reason for existing was to provide truth..."

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Trump moves to put his own stamp on Voice of America (Original Post) mobeau69 Jan 2017 OP
ah, the VOA elmac Jan 2017 #1
Ok who wants to bet that the real plan is to try to use VOA for home propaganda? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #2
Shortwave radio is a mere shadow of its former self. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #11
It *was* prohibited, until July 2013 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #14
Well, golly. That goes to show you what I know. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #16
Doesn't the BBC still have World Service on SW? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2017 #19
I suppose they do, but mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #21
Where it makes sense, yes. mwooldri Jan 2017 #23
Who says they have to limit it to shortwave? There is online streaming plus satellite not to mention cstanleytech Jan 2017 #18
Yeah, that's what's taken over. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #22
Of all the things that need done (appoint ambassadors, staff, etc.) THIS is what he wastes time on? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2017 #3
The Presidential Goon Squad. KatyaR Jan 2017 #4
The "Two Bobs" have arrived pfitz59 Jan 2017 #5
"So, what exactly would you say it is that you do here?" maxrandb Jan 2017 #27
I knew several retirees from the VOA operation Yonnie3 Jan 2017 #6
Early last month, a provision buried into the National Defense Authorization Act mobeau69 Jan 2017 #8
Thanks for the information. Yonnie3 Jan 2017 #9
They're still serving mobeau69 Jan 2017 #10
I think we can simply shorten that to "Twit" but feel free to replace that "i" with an cstanleytech Jan 2017 #20
There was thread here at the time. I'll see if I can find it. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #12
It is propaganda. Although it's almost always viewed as negative, propaganda isn't evil by dionysus Jan 2017 #26
It will be like QVC central scrutinizer Jan 2017 #7
Soon to be "The Voice of Patriotic Devotion, Fuck Yeah" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #13
I can think of nothing more likely to turn billions world wide into bomb throwing anarchists, than Mc Mike Jan 2017 #15
Voice of A Liar milestogo Jan 2017 #17
VOA. American propaganda. mwooldri Jan 2017 #24
Is Tokyo Rose still available? world wide wally Jan 2017 #25
Very disturbing. Grabbing the reins of our premier broadcaster of propaganda (yes, even the Nitram Jan 2017 #28
All bdamomma Jan 2017 #29
 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
1. ah, the VOA
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jan 2017

such fond memories listening to them on the shortwave radio. Now they will be know as the Voice of Asswipes.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
2. Ok who wants to bet that the real plan is to try to use VOA for home propaganda?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jan 2017

After all it really never made much of an impact overseas but the infrastructure for a home propaganda ministry is sitting there for Trump and the Republicans to use and exploit if they tweak it some and best of all the news media doesnt control it the government does.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
11. Shortwave radio is a mere shadow of its former self.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:30 PM
Jan 2017

I have several Sangean-based Radio Shack receivers, such as the DX-392, DX-396, and so forth.

VOA is prohibited from broadcasting domestically. Their big transmitter array in Greenville, NC, was dynamited in 2016.

Google "Willis Conover" to see the good that VOA can do.

Willis Conover

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
16. Well, golly. That goes to show you what I know.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:53 PM
Jan 2017

How many people are left listening to shortwave? I can get Radio Havana at 6.000 Mhz and a vast array of Christian broadcasters. Other than that, I guess North Korea is still on the air. But the golden age is over.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
21. I suppose they do, but
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017

1) in English, and
2) aimed at North America,

that's been gone for ten or fifteen years.

You have the internet to blame/thank.

I can link to all kinds of information.

Glenn Hauser's World of Radio

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
23. Where it makes sense, yes.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:37 AM
Jan 2017

To North America? Not any more. You have the partnership with American Public Media, providing public radio stations across the country with BBC programming. Got a Google Home? Say "Play BBC World Service" and more than likely it's selecting Vermont Public Radio's HD-3 feed - generally the BBC World Service "News" feed. Got a car? Sirius-XM has BBC World Service... but then with LTE broadband you can now download an app (BBC iPlayer) and now have access to BBC World Service - plus all the BBC domestic stations.

The future for international broadcasters isn't shortwave. It's FM access, satellite, broadband, and mobile phones.

This is assuming that we continue to have a free and open Internet. Though I don't foresee us having a "Great Firewall of China", if we do there will always be ways through. Plus a Great Firewall of America would be very anti-American.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
18. Who says they have to limit it to shortwave? There is online streaming plus satellite not to mention
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jan 2017

regular old broadcasting.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
22. Yeah, that's what's taken over.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jan 2017

You know, in the old days, you'd be listening on the 41-meter band, and they'd say they were stopping operations at 7-point-whatever Megahertz. If you wanted to continue listening, you'd have to tune down to the 49-meter band and find them at 6-point-whatever Megahertz. Not many people are doing that anymore.

3. Of all the things that need done (appoint ambassadors, staff, etc.) THIS is what he wastes time on?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jan 2017

I like the term "political operatives." It reminds me of the Soviet Union's "political officer" who was present to ensure the organization was following the current ideology.

Yonnie3

(17,422 posts)
6. I knew several retirees from the VOA operation
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

They worked in Australia, UK and other shortwave relay points. They provided technical support. They are long since retired and perhaps have passed on. Unfortunately I lost touch with them.

They chafed at any suggestion that they were airing propaganda, but readily admitted that they were airing positive views of the US and its policies. In my book that is propaganda. They pointed out that the CIA did all the propaganda stations mainly aimed at Cuba and the Iron Curtain countries. Those CIA stations did not necessarily provide truth and often billed themselves as in country opposition clandestine stations.

The VOA is supposed to be largely autonomous, controlled by a bipartisan board that includes Sec. of State to protect it from "political operatives."

I am at loss as to why they need attention on day 1. Will we soon have a Ministry of Truth?

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
8. Early last month, a provision buried into the National Defense Authorization Act
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jan 2017

called for disbanding the bipartisan board of the BBG, pleasing critics who said the part-time board was ineffective but alarming others who feared an accountability layer was being swept away.

The status of the board is in limbo, however, since Obama added a signing statement to the NDAA, saying it was unconstitutional to get rid of the board because it violates his constitutional right of appointment. Another uncertainty is that Lansing can be replaced at any time for a CEO appointed by the president.

Yonnie3

(17,422 posts)
9. Thanks for the information.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jan 2017

I did not know about this. Apparently they have been on the radar for a while.

VoA been a constant in many peoples lives around the world. I guess they will now become a part of the alternative facts world.

Edit: And I posted before reading the link. Sorry.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
20. I think we can simply shorten that to "Twit" but feel free to replace that "i" with an
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jan 2017

"a" also because both really apply to him.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
26. It is propaganda. Although it's almost always viewed as negative, propaganda isn't evil by
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:49 AM
Jan 2017

definition. These days the word is rarely used with positive connotations.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
15. I can think of nothing more likely to turn billions world wide into bomb throwing anarchists, than
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jan 2017

dRumpfenfuhrer personally making VOA broadcasts.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
24. VOA. American propaganda.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jan 2017

The moment VOA goes into the world of #alternativefacts will be the moment the VOA will lose a ton of credibility, and it might end up becoming the next Radio Moscow or its modern day counterpart Sputnik Radio.

This ex-pat listens to BBC.

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
28. Very disturbing. Grabbing the reins of our premier broadcaster of propaganda (yes, even the
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jan 2017

truth can be considered propaganda when it is used to de-stabilize another country) would be the first step an authoritarian fascist would take.

bdamomma

(63,801 posts)
29. All
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jan 2017

I can think of is how Putin is so happy about this all. His puppet is screwing the American people and democracy is no longer.

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