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progree

(10,864 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:05 PM Jan 2017

White House falsely claims recent dramatic expansion of the federal workforce

Source: Yahoo News

Listing three executive orders signed by President Trump on Monday morning, Spicer said the president issued a memorandum outlining executive branch hiring that counters the dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years

According to this chart from the Office of Personnel Management ( https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/historical-tables/executive-branch-civilian-employment-since-1940/ ) , federal civilian employment was 2.094 million in 2009, President Barack Obamas first year in office, and 2.079 million in 2014, the most recent year reported. Excluding the Department of Defense, the workforce remained almost exactly steady at 1.357 million.

(Another graphic from the article: )




Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-falsely-claims-recent-dramatic-expansion-of-the-federal-workforce-192109239.html



Also, according to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics (BLS) -- Under Obama the federal workforce increased by 18,000 employees which is a 0.6% increase (over 8 years), far below the rate of U.S. population increase.

(And note that Romney as governor increased the number of Massachusetts state employees by 5.5% (over 4 years). Also note that Bush II increased the federal workforce by 1.3% (over 8 years) )

. . # Source of the Obama and Bush II figures: BLS data series: Federal employees, seasonally adjusted: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES9091000001
. . . . It includes postal workers, and it excludes the military
. . . . Jan 2009: 2,786,000 , December 2016: 2,804,000 (preliminary) , increase: 18,000 (this is a 0.6% increase -- far below the growth in U.S. population)
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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. And you thought it was a Bear going Through
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:19 PM
Jan 2017

Airport Security,it is only going to get worse. TSA needs people and now with this freeze,things are going to get messy. BTW,these folks have not had a raise in pay for five years.

underpants

(182,279 posts)
4. Benefits are great. Yes the IRS and technology across the board is crap
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jan 2017

Mnuchin actually mentioned both in his confirmation hearing. Orrin Hatch actually said, " You actually want to help us upgrade the IRS". I was waiting to hear laughter.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Just read Trump's so called hiring freeze
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:09 AM
Jan 2017

edict. Interesting to say the least. Every Agency except the Military and Other Security Personnel will be froze in place,no vacancies will be filled. This is their draining the swamp. What a f--in joke.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
3. I wonder how much longer the BLS will be allowed to keep its neutrality.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

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Maybe next month's report will be okay, but after that?

progree

(10,864 posts)
14. That's just a transition move to valuing the parks in rubles
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jan 2017

Putin likes parks, where he can ride bears bare-chested

kacekwl

(6,994 posts)
6. I know for some reason the press
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:44 PM
Jan 2017

hates to use the word liar but they better get used to it. Happens every day now.

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
11. Privatizing, streamlining and reducing fed workforce has been the norm for many years
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jan 2017

Despite Feds slowness in upgrading to the very latest technology, decades of improved tech and computerization has still allowed shrinking of many govt offices so that fewer employers are administering programs to a vastly greater population. This trend toward privatizing and shrinking the workforce especially grew during Reagan and Bush years.

louis-t

(23,199 posts)
12. It would be different if they just did it and didn't try to
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jan 2017

rationalize it by claiming that there has been a surge in federal hiring. They only did this to give their idiot followers a woodie.

progree

(10,864 posts)
13. Which Bush? Bush II increased the civilian federal workforce by 1.3%, a little more than
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jan 2017

twice as much as the supposed big government liberal Obama.

In fact Bush II's job creation record is the epitome of big government liberalism run amok -- Bush's entire 8 year record: 1.3 million payroll jobs were created - by creating 1.8 million government jobs and destroying 0.5 million private sector jobs.

[font color = blue]>>This trend toward privatizing and shrinking the workforce especially grew during Reagan and Bush years<<[/font]

I wish the service had stayed the same too ... there are a ton of complaints about IRS wait times and callers even getting through at all. Even for my tax preparer who has a special phone number for professional tax preparers. That one is the fault of the Republican Congress who hates the IRS because most spending is for non-defense (when including the entire budget, not just the discretionary budget that people often cite).

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