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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:49 AM Jan 2017

Steve Bannon registered to vote in two states despite Trump's cries of 'voter fraud'

Source: The Guardian

President’s senior adviser is registered in both New York and Florida, as president falsely claims in tweet that such an arrangement amounts to fraud

Jon Swaine in New York
@jonswaine
Wednesday 25 January 2017 10.17 EST

A senior White House adviser to Donald Trump is registered to vote in two different states, a practice that the US president wrongly claimed amounted to electoral fraud on Wednesday as he called for an inquiry.

Stephen Bannon registered to vote in New York shortly before the presidential election last year, after the Guardian disclosed that he was registered to vote at a vacant house in Florida where his ex-wife had once lived.

Bannon, whose registration lists a rented apartment in Manhattan as his address, cast his ballot for Trump in New York, according to a source familiar with his arrangements, who was not authorized to speak to the media.

Bannon, however, also remains registered to vote in Florida, according to state records. His registration lists as his address the home of Andy Badolato, a friend of Bannon’s who has worked on some of his political documentary films and written for Breitbart News, the far-right website that Bannon controlled before entering the White House as chief strategist and senior counselor to the president.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Steve Bannon registered to vote in two states despite Trump's cries of 'voter fraud' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
LOCK HIM UP!!1! bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #1
THIS should be reporting on every single leftynyc Jan 2017 #2
Florida keeps track of each individual that votes. dubyadiprecession Jan 2017 #26
Doesn't matter leftynyc Jan 2017 #27
Well, that's different. neeksgeek Jan 2017 #3
Oh, well, I'm sure they'll only be investigating states that went blue. tanyev Jan 2017 #4
Spicer just admitted they will be tarageting "big" states (i.e. blue states) lagomorph777 Jan 2017 #35
There's your voter fraud cheato! 2naSalit Jan 2017 #5
Hey, wasn't Ann Coulter registered in two states also? dhol82 Jan 2017 #6
Actually, she voted in the wrong precenct. louis-t Jan 2017 #32
When does Congress being the hearings? mcar Jan 2017 #7
Has anyone every moved and informed their county voter registrar? mobeau69 Jan 2017 #8
We'll move on from this BS when tRump quits claiming voter fraud groundloop Jan 2017 #10
Yep. dalton99a Jan 2017 #11
Meant "We" as a people (country), not "We" as in Democrats or progressives. mobeau69 Jan 2017 #15
I pretend holding politicians to the very standards they set is bullshit too. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #21
Yep it's up to the local voting districts to ensure those who move away are taken off the rolls yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #22
Not even a good try. Excusing Trump once more, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #28
But Bannon got a new registration, at an address he apparently doesn't live at muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #23
Actually, yes. TygrBright Jan 2017 #29
Usually when you register to vote, PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #30
I guess I am too, come to think of it. alarimer Jan 2017 #9
I think generally the way it's done is mobeau69 Jan 2017 #17
I told my old one (but I think they never kicked me off their rolls) frazzled Jan 2017 #19
wow. great find hollowdweller Jan 2017 #12
Throw his ass in jail - packman Jan 2017 #13
Why wasn't his name brought up in kobachs cross check? kimbutgar Jan 2017 #14
New York and Florida don't participate in that. subterranean Jan 2017 #24
Lol, only evidence is Bannon, Lol (n/t) harun Jan 2017 #16
It is interesting as USA.gov, says that when you register in your new state after a move, the karynnj Jan 2017 #18
Please someone ask Spice-Boy today if this counts as voter fraud. Get his statement on the record. randome Jan 2017 #20
Priceless. JudyM Jan 2017 #25
Deport him to Russia world wide wally Jan 2017 #31
Income taxes? Before the election Bannon was registered to vote in CA & FL. CaptainTruth Jan 2017 #33
Bannon's double registration should be tweeted to Trump. Ilsa Jan 2017 #34
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. THIS should be reporting on every single
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

outlet there is. Make that maggot prove he didn't vote in both states.

dubyadiprecession

(5,687 posts)
26. Florida keeps track of each individual that votes.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jan 2017

If he voted in Florida,there is a record of him doing it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. Doesn't matter
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jan 2017

They've been whining about people registered in two states for months now. The degenerate's very special adviser should be LOCKED UP!!!

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
3. Well, that's different.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

I mean, Steve Bannon is a True Republican Patriot. Anything he does is clearly for the good of America.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. Spicer just admitted they will be tarageting "big" states (i.e. blue states)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

Damn it this is serious. It was serious 16 years ago and Dems pretty much ignored it. Too late now.

mobeau69

(11,132 posts)
8. Has anyone every moved and informed their county voter registrar?
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jan 2017

I only plan on informing them when I die. Not sure how I'll do that yet though.


Outdated registration due to moving or death does not equal fraud. Can we just move on from this bullshit?

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
10. We'll move on from this BS when tRump quits claiming voter fraud
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jan 2017

Agreed, this MIGHT prove to be nothing. HOWEVER, as long as tRump keeps claiming millions and millions of people voted illegally we'll keep pointing out these instances of he and his staff's distortions.

mobeau69

(11,132 posts)
15. Meant "We" as a people (country), not "We" as in Democrats or progressives.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry. I sorta fucked up.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. I pretend holding politicians to the very standards they set is bullshit too.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

I pretend holding politicians to the very standards they set is bullshit too, regardless of your alleged concern at notifying people after your own death.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
22. Yep it's up to the local voting districts to ensure those who move away are taken off the rolls
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jan 2017

Of course how to do that if the house is still in the persons name. Trump is purposely trying to make registration a mess. One thing trump loves is chaos.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,270 posts)
23. But Bannon got a new registration, at an address he apparently doesn't live at
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jan 2017

August 26 2016:

Stephen Bannon, the chief executive of Trump’s election campaign, has an active voter registration at the house in Miami-Dade County, Florida, which is vacant and due to be demolished to make way for a new development.

“I have emptied the property,” Luis Guevara, the owner of the house, which is in the Coconut Grove section of the city, said in an interview. “Nobody lives there … we are going to make a construction there.” Neighbors said the property had been abandoned for several months.

Bannon, 62, formerly rented the house for use by his ex-wife, Diane Clohesy, but did not live there himself. Clohesy, a Tea Party activist, moved out of the house earlier this year and has her own irregular voting registration arrangement. According to public records, Bannon and Clohesy divorced seven years ago.

Bannon previously rented another house for Clohesy in Miami from 2013 to 2015 and assigned his voter registration to the property during that period. But a source with direct knowledge of the rental agreement for this house said Bannon did not live there either, and that Bannon and Clohesy were not in a relationship.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/26/steve-bannon-florida-registered-vote-donald-trump

And then, following that:

Stephen Bannon registered to vote in New York shortly before the presidential election last year, after the Guardian disclosed that he was registered to vote at a vacant house in Florida where his ex-wife had once lived.

Bannon, whose registration lists a rented apartment in Manhattan as his address, cast his ballot for Trump in New York, according to a source familiar with his arrangements, who was not authorized to speak to the media.

Bannon, however, also remains registered to vote in Florida, according to state records. His registration lists as his address the home of Andy Badolato, a friend of Bannon’s who has worked on some of his political documentary films and written for Breitbart News, the far-right website that Bannon controlled before entering the White House as chief strategist and senior counselor to the president.

His registration in Florida was moved to Badolato’s home shortly after the publication of the Guardian report in August. Bannon has not cast a ballot in Florida, according to state records. Badolato, who was also registered to vote at the home with his adult sons, declined at the time to answer questions on whether Bannon actually lived at the property, which is required under the registration rules of the Florida division of elections.

This isn't a case of forgetting to get taken off a register. He's registered himself twice at Florida addresses he appears not to have lived at, and then at an actual residence in New York.

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
29. Actually, yes.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jan 2017

When we moved from one state to another state, we got a phone call from a party phone bank in the old state and realized we were still registered there, so we phoned the registrar in our old county and requested that our names be taken off their county rolls.

They sent us a form to complete and return, which we did.

It wasn't a big deal.

informatively,
Bright

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
30. Usually when you register to vote,
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

your new place wants to know if you were previously registered, and if so, where. Your new location is supposed to inform your old location to cancel your prior voter registration.

I'm not sure how efficiently that is accomplished anywhere, but I did a quick check on-line for my voter registration where I used to live, and I'm no longer registered there.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. I guess I am too, come to think of it.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jan 2017

When I moved, I registered to vote in the new place, but never told the old one. I just assumed they would know, somehow. I mean, my alumni association managed to track me down no matter how many times I move.

But, get this, I still got election junk mail from my old county sent to me at my new address. Not forwarded- they actually had the new address. It was ridiculous.

mobeau69

(11,132 posts)
17. I think generally the way it's done is
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:25 PM
Jan 2017

after you don't vote in a specified number of consecutive general elections your name is removed.

It's really nothing but the KGOP uses it to stir up their moronic base. And they are stupid.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
19. I told my old one (but I think they never kicked me off their rolls)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jan 2017

I moved in 2004 from Massachusetts to Illinois. I was concerned that I should be able to register to vote in my new state for the presidential elections, so I went dutifully to my town hall and filled out the official form to be removed from the voting list due to moving to another state, and handed it to the appropriate clerk.

That November, my daughter went to vote in that town, and said she saw our names still in the voter book. I still get emails from my old state representative--12 years after having moved!--so I wonder if they never took me off.

I did my part. They may not have done theirs.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
18. It is interesting as USA.gov, says that when you register in your new state after a move, the
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jan 2017

election office you registered at sends a form to take you off the rolls at your prior home.



When You Should Re-Register or Update Your Registration Information

Anytime you’ve changed your name
Anytime you’ve moved permanently
You can’t be registered to vote in more than one place at a time. When you register to vote in a new location, you’ll be asked for your previous address. Your new election office will send a cancellation form to your previous election office.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote#item-212825

One observation I have as someone who moved about 4 years ago - and immediately registered to vote. I know that they did ask the address we moved from (along with county and State). Neither my husband or I checked to see if Burlington VT and Morris County NJ correctly issued and processed the cancellation. But, there is no voter fraud unless we voted in NJ -- which we didn't.

No process is 100% perfect, so I would guess that there are some people who are registered in two places because the system failed - even though they did exactly what the government said above. In addition, I KNOW, that there were people on the voter lists who had died because phone banking that I think was done from the voters list in NJ contained people who moved or in some awkward cases had passed.

When Trump does his study, we need to be sure that only REAL invalid voting is counted. There is a huge difference in finding that there are errors in the voting rolls and voter fraud. I have voted in three states - Indiana, NJ and VT -- in all three I would assume that REAL fraud with people voting as people they are not is likely pretty low. The districts are pretty small and there is a significant risk that if someone (say knowing the name and address of someone who recently died) trying to vote as them. It is very likely that someone would actually know the decedent who would hear the person claiming to be them. This would be voting fraud and would be a crime -- and any instance would have gotten huge coverage. Yet, how many stories did you see?
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Please someone ask Spice-Boy today if this counts as voter fraud. Get his statement on the record.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
33. Income taxes? Before the election Bannon was registered to vote in CA & FL.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jan 2017

FL has no state income tax, CA does. It made me wonder if Bannon maintained a FL registration so he could claim to live in FL, file his taxes from that address, & thus avoid paying CA state income tax. That would be major tax fraud.

For years he'd been using a FL address that was an abandoned house, before he changed it to Badolato's address. Why do that "just for the heck of it?" It doesn't make sense. However, if he was saving thousands of dollars a year by filing his taxes from a FL address, then it makes sense for him to make the effort to maintain a FL registration.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
34. Bannon's double registration should be tweeted to Trump.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jan 2017

Make him furious to hear that his policy snake is a potential perp.

Looking forward to seeing yrump come completely unhinged.

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