Obama's Protections for L.G.B.T. Workers Will Remain Under Trump

[fountainofyouth]

Source: New York Times

The White House said on Monday that President Trump would leave in place a 2014 Obama administration order that created new workplace protections for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

In a statement issued in response to growing questions about whether Mr. Trump would reverse the Obama order, the White House said the president was proud to embrace gay rights.

"President Trump continues to be respectful and supportive of L.G.B.T.Q. rights, just as he was throughout the election," the statement said. "The president is proud to have been the first ever G.O.P. nominee to mention the L.G.B.T.Q. community in his nomination acceptance speech, pledging then to protect the community from violence and oppression."

The decision to keep the order, the statement added, was Mr. Trump's. It uses stronger language than any Republican president has before in favor of equal legal protections for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, though that is not likely to quiet Mr. Trump's critics on the left.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/obama-trump-protections-lgbt-workers.html?_r=0

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Well, so he passed up one opportunity to be needlessly cruel, I suppose.

[catsudon]

1. Well

Im glad the broken clock stopped here, if true

[adigal]

52. They are working on a Religious Freedom Executive Order for Pence - get it?

The right hand says, "I love the gays," and the left hand puts out an order that says you can discriminate due to religious beliefs.

[ananda]

2. This is a sop and it means ..

.. he's hiding something else and
getting ready for far worse.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. there is a method to his madness...don't trust him for a microsecond

[Kittycow]

17. It's a trick as far as I'm concerned.

[Stonepounder]

4. Of course, anything that Trump says is subject to change without notice.

It all depends on what Bannon or Putin whisper in his ear.

[cstanleytech]

5. Probably just waiting to see if he can survive not being impeached and get enough idiots to vote for

a 2nd term for him before he tackles that one.

[vlyons]

6. Hell just froze over

[Doreen]

9. Odd, I thought it froze over on January 20th.

[pnwmom]

7. He knew that the backlash would exceed anything he's seen so far.

I'm very happy for the LGBTQ community that they don't have to deal with this.

[cstanleytech]

8. Until he is out of office I wouldnt trust him not to redo it down the road. nt

[Hugin]

21. It's anti-impeachment insurance.

To keep the stick of if-not-me-Pence in play. He's hoping to get the LBGT-Q in his court. Pretty slimy move.

[pnwmom]

22. Good point. n/t

[Ligyron]

36. Precisely.

His public stance on LBGTQ rights last year was the one thing that had me hoping he might be a secret progressive simply out to destroy the GOP.

I still had a faint glimmer of hope until he announced his cabinet picks.

Silly me, always the optimist.

[putitinD]

28. He couldn't care less. He is just waiting for a more hateful supreme court. that will take

away gay rights forever!

[IronLionZion]

30. Like he cares about backlash

When we finally remove Dipshit from office, Pence will screw the LGBTQ community on his first day.

[DonViejo]

40. He still supports the so-called Religious Freedom acts being pushed

by Sessions and the other flying monkeys.

[C Moon]

10. Probably got into an argument with Pence and said, "I'll teach you!"

[roamer65]

11. Roy Cohn.

His best friend and former attorney was gay. If true, it's because of that.

[susanna]

15. That is something I hadn't considered, but certainly makes sense. n/t

[6000eliot]

48. Cohn may have been gay, but he was NEVER pro-gay.

This is Trump bullshit. Watch.

[Frogg]

12. Part of the Chaos strategy...

Now the Repugs are going to get their taste...dRumph has never cared one whit about this issue. I think Bannon is throwing a grenade at the repugs...

[Princess Turandot]

13. He's supposedly working on an 'EO' on 'religious freedom' re LBGT issues..

Given that he appears to have no empathy whatsoever for other human beings, if the EO materializes, my guess is that this will undoubtedly be what they point to as proof that he's not a bigot.

However, I'm glad that the people who were impacted by PBO's actions can feel a little more secure for the time being.

[NYC Liberal]

14. I don't trust him one bit.

Either he's merely postponing it because he's already in the middle of a giant shitstorm and doesn't want a second, or he's doing this as a distraction for something else.

[susanna]

16. That was my initial gut instinct on reading this.

Things are not going the way they thought, and fuel to the fire could tip the scales. Still, the Republicans in Congress are not going to like this one bit. Nor will the red states.

He is just making friends everywhere he goes, isn't he?

[nevergiveup]

18. Trump may be stupid

but he is not stupid enough during the present shit storm to sign an executive order saying that it is once again okay to discriminate against gays in the workplace. It will be subtle but the homophobes including Pence will get their pony. Wait for the executive order on religious liberties/freedoms.

[Ligyron]

37. Yeah

"Ah shuck, I didn't know it was going to do that".

[MistakenLamb]

19. just wait till his "religious freedom" EO n/t

[Solly Mack]

20. We'll see.

[Dopers_Greed]

23. Divide and conquer

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"This will get him just enough goodwill from LGBTQ people that they won't care as much about other, worse things that he does"

-highly likely this paraphrases the thoughts running through Steve Bannon's head

[Behind the Aegis]

24. You think that poorly of the LGBT community?

Seriously?!

[Amimnoch]

27. As a whole, no.

As you know, though, we don't all fit into one nice neat jello mold.

For most of us, we see this exactly for the ploy it is, but before I logged into DU this morning, I had seen several versions of this article on my wall just to "show me" that he's not that bad for us...

I do think the log cabiners, and fiscal con's among us will take this bait.

[Behind the Aegis]

44. No, we don't fit into a Jello mold.

However, the post is offensive because it isn't talking about right-wingers, Log Cabin, or otherwise, is it? No, it isn't because it is saying "divide and conquer". Those people were never on the sides of others. That post is talking about people like YOU and ME. So, you going to take the bait? I am not.

[Dopers_Greed]

41. No, I'm referring to Trump's (Bannon's) reasoning

Not my own opinions

[Behind the Aegis]

45. That's not how it is written.

If you were truly referring to their reasoning, then it shouldn't have been written as "This will get him just enough goodwill from LGBTQ people..." but rather as "They think this will get him just enough goodwill from LGBTQ people..." because without the subject, as in your version, it appears to be your opinion and is very offensive.

[JustAnotherGen]

32. You don't think the LGBTQ community

Is going to stand up for others?

[geomon666]

25. For now...

Don't think for one instance Pence won't get him to go back to it.

[Amimnoch]

26. It's a trap.

[Amimnoch]

29. First he came for the Muslims.

Second he came for the Mexicans.

All this tells me is that it's not yet my turn.

RESIST!!!

[Charles Bukowski]

31. Gump barely attacked the LGBTQ community during the campaign and still

only recieved 14% of their vote. You think someone who tapped super-homophobe Mike Pence as his VP will ever get love from them?

This is just a weak attempt to make Trump appear human. It ain't working.

[Lucinda]

33. Well shouldn't all of these decisions coming out be "Mr Trumps" ...?

What a telling phrase.

Good on him for this at least. I remain cautiously optimistic on behalf of my many friends that this will benefit.

[DeminPennswoods]

34. Is Bannon a closeted gay?

Think about it. He's a white supremacist and they are hostile toward LBGTs. He's been married and divorced 3 or 4 times and sure looks like he drinks like a fish. So what exactly is this behavior repressing?

[Behind the Aegis]

46. Seriously?!

WTF?!

News flash: MOST homophobes are STRAIGHT!

Also, your "reasoning" as to why he might be a "closet 'mo", are fucking offensive. Ever think the behavior he is trying to repress is deep hate for mankind as a whole?

Question for you: you think Jeff Sessions is secretly black/or wants to be black? Think that might explain his racism?

Do you see how stupid that sounds?

[DeminPennswoods]

49. Some people are gay, but are in denial about it

Don't get offended. There are homosexuals/lesbians/transgenders who cannot admit to themselves what they are. That is all I am asking, is Bannon one of those people?

[Behind the Aegis]

50. Yes, and some people are straight up homophobes and are straight.

Don't get offended, but most homophobes are straight and many can't seem to admit it. Also, your statement was offensive because you are "asking" about his SO based on stereotypes, not anything substantial.

[leftynyc]

35. This is putting his VP in his place

Nothing more.

[OKNancy]

38. kick

[HAB911]

39. UNTIL he issues a Religious Freedom Executive Order

codifying discrimination (rumored to be in the queue)

[GusBob]

42. Bingo, this

This statement is a smokescreen for the impending 'religious freedom EO' which is forthcoming

[Doreen]

43. I do not trust him. There is a lot more to this story than is being revealed.

Somethings afoot. So they will be allowed to work. What about medical rights, loans, housing, education, adoption, legally keeping their children, rights not to get beaten or murdered, and marriage. One law may very well be made obsolete by another law particularly when right to religion laws are made. Right to religion laws are only going to be right to fundamentalist Christian laws only.

[herding cats]

47. I suspect he's going to go about removing LGBT rights in his religious "freedom" EO.

This is just a bit of smoke and mirrors before that comes out later this week. After that is signed I expect it to be a free pass to hate and discriminate against everything and anything you can find covered under the umbrella of your chosen religion.

[AlexSFCA]

51. Do not take the bait!

This is part of 'Islam hates gays' rationale. He made the case after Orlando; same with Brexit. This is needed to push against muslims. They will take care of gays afterwards.

[cstanleytech]

53. Well that didnt last long

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141687121