President Trump Threatens to Send U.S. Troops to Mexico to Take Care of 'Bad Hombres'

[geek tragedy]

Source: Time/Associated Press

President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The excerpt of the call did not make clear who exactly Trump considered "bad hombres," — drug cartels, immigrants, or both — or the tone and context of the remark, made in a Friday morning phone call between the leaders. It also did not contain Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's response.

Still, the excerpt offers a rare and striking look at how the new president is conducting diplomacy behind closed doors. Trump's remark suggest he is using the same tough and blunt talk with world leaders that he used to rally crowds on the campaign trail.


Read more: http://time.com/4657474/donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-mexico-bad-hombres/

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There's no reason why Mexicans shouldn't hate Trump, the United States government, and each and every moron who voted for him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. So - are we going to invade Mexico or nuke Iran, or both?

Which comes first?

[Initech]

2. I hope "impeach Trump" comes first.

If he sends troops to Mexico, he will officially have gone too far.

[George II]

4. Except for the fact that some innocent people will die, I hope he does - that will accelerate...

...the impeachment.

[Initech]

11. And completely destroy our relationship with Mexico? I don't think so.

[George II]

13. I seriously believe that the Mexican government and people understand that trump does not...

....speak for all of us, or even a majority of us.

[sheshe2]

22. I heard China is in the equation as well.

He won't be happy until every nuclear country has their missiles aimed at us. I think he is not only mentally unbalanced, yet suicidal and wants to take us all with him.

[Red Mountain]

3. REALLY?

Who released this?

Why didn't they release the entire transcript of the conversation?

I call bullshit. Another red meat toss to the haters.

[geek tragedy]

8. mulitple accounts from both sides. He really threatened to invade Mexico.

This report is based on the transcript.

I'm rooting for whichever Mexicans--army, cartel, otherwise--who shoot at the invaders from El Norte if this happens.

[demmiblue]

9. "Another red meat toss to the haters."

Do tell... who are the haters?

[sheshe2]

24. Good question demmiblue.

Who are these haters they refer to. Hmmm.

[Sunlei]

77. republican deplorables. It's like the 'muslim ban' republicans had to add 'green card' harrassment

to their EO to have the order create some chaos at airports.

The green card part was removed from the eo and now things will settle down as most of trumps eo was copied from current visa policy anyway.

[harun]

10. +1, all BS

[WinkyDink]

41. What makes you so sure? Nothing in Trump's past, that's for sure.

[harun]

43. Partial transcript leaked

Either it was someone trying to make him look bad, in which case they would have leaked the whole thing, or it was someone doing it on purpose under guidance (BS) with purpose. Simple logic.

[WinkyDink]

39. "the haters"???? You missed your fork in the road.

[herding cats]

60. I did a translation of the original Spanish version earlier today.

It seems to be a vetted account, but both sides have tried to play it down for different reasons. Which makes sense. Trump's team due to how insane what he said was, and Peña Nieto because he was trying to prevent anti American sentiments.

After the Australian PM article emerged tonight. Me? I think we're through the rabbit hole at this point, personally

[randome]

80. Maybe because they were only listening in on Trump's side of the call?

Geeze, it's not that hard to figure out.
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[Tess49]

5. Good God!!!!!!!!!!!

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. Is he going to make Mexico pay for the invasion?

[sheshe2]

25. good one auntie.

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. This is unreal.

[sheshe2]

30. yup.

[herding cats]

61. Of course.

The real question is, will those of us on the front lines have dual citizenship when Mexico takes us back? And, if so, will we be under an immigration ban when we try and visit our loved ones?

[greatauntoftriplets]

68. Remember that Chicago remains a sanctuary city.

Unless they give us back gto the old Indiana Territory. Ugh, Pence country.

Uugly situation all around.

[central scrutinizer]

90. He has a wonderful plan to make Mexico attack Iran

Or vice versa, depending on which would garner higher ratings.

[Bayard]

7. He's threatening war on Mexico

No doubt about it. He can claim its because they can't control themselves. I would be very, very interested to hear what the Mexican president replied to this bully. Will they make a first strike? Can anybody blame them? Do they have the capability? Who will their allies be?

Mexico, Iran, China. Why in the world would this asshole be pushing for WW III, unless he thinks Putin is going to share the remains with him?

[ananda]

14. It's bully posturing to get countries in line ..

.. so he can rape, plunder, and pillage them
and extort their cooperation with his business
interests.

Unless he really wants to go to war with somebody.

Maybe he really is that crazy.

[herding cats]

63. News flash for Trump:

Mexico's not that into us.

Trudeau talks trade, jobs with Mexico’s Pena Nieto in phone call
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/01/31/trudeau-talks-trade-jobs-with-mexicos-pena-nieto-in-phone-call.html

[Amaryllis]

47. Read some of the stuff on Bannon that has been posted. Apparently he loves war.

[NurseJackie]

12. Our nation will be pre-emptively attacked by someone who believes that a US attack is immenent.

That's now allowed, right?

[Laha]

29. Can you pre-emptively attack

the pre-empted pre-emptive attack?

[NurseJackie]

35. Sadly, yes. (It means you can launch a surprise attack one day early.)

[Laha]

92. Thanks for the serious response

I'll admit I was being a little bit tongue-and-cheek with that question, and having fun with English at the same time.

What if someone pre-empts the pre-emptively pre-empted pre-emptive attack?

At what point do we just get to say some asshole just attacked first? (Again, this question is only half-serious. Please forgive me for making light of a scary situation - I've been involved in too many deep, related discussions lately. I needed to distract myself with a joke.)

[procon]

15. Trump isn't two weeks into his reality show and he's already threatened two wars.

He really wants to use those nukes.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Three

if he moves the embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

Or could be four if you count Mexico, Iran, Iraq, Palestine (territories).

[procon]

18. True. All true. We're so screwed. nt

[James48]

38. Don't forget

Chi-na. We're well on our way to war with China.

[uppityperson]

16. Sounds like what he says about Chicago, but it being a foreign country

[notdarkyet]

19. There are at least a million American citizens living full time in Mexico.

We have our own violence problems. I think bump has an itchy trigger finger. Threatened Iran and Mexico. He can't wait to start war. Did you see crazy Flynn on tv tonight? Threatening Iran. Oh god.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. He's apparently trying to instigate something

then do the dystopian thing that we all post about on DU (but hope doesn't actually happen). I just hope other countries of the world have cooler heads and realize there is a madman running this country at the moment and don't take his bait.

[Dopers_Greed]

21. This guy is clearly fucking crazy

Section 4 needs to be invoked NOW.

[ismnotwasm]

23. Fucking idiot.

[Judi Lynn]

26. Who gave him the authority to invade Mexico, Steve Bannon?

I absolutely think he would have a rebellion on his hands if he tried, and they would be right to do it.

[WinkyDink]

42. Iraq, Mexico, who needs permission?!

[Sunlei]

76. like he got tired of christie,kellyanne, trump will be tired of current 'friend' bannon soon.

[chelsea0011]

28. He worked this out with Putin. He gets to move on Mexico and Putin gets to move on Eastern Europe...

Ukraine and Estonia will be the first two.

[left-of-center2012]

31. Doesn't OAS provide for mutual defense?

Does the Organization of American States provide for mutual defense?
If Trump invades Mexico, could Mexico call for support from other countries in the western hemisphere?

[WinkyDink]

46. Who amongst them could defeat the United States?

[left-of-center2012]

81. Vietnam beat the U.S. n/t

[LittleBlue]

32. I'm visiting Mexico next week

Should I cancel? Might not be able to get back if there's a war.

[geek tragedy]

33. Maple leaf luggage tags are probably a good idea.

I don't think a war is likely in the next month.

[Raster]

78. Probably wouldn't hurt to learn the words to "Oh Canada"...

[sarcasmo]

34. President Dingleberry sending in the three Amigos.

[jpak]

36. Mexico should call his buff and tell him to go fuck himself.

In Spanish.

yup

[Blue Idaho]

37. Do you think Mexico will ask China to help repel the invaders?

I'm sure they would be happy to help.

[WinkyDink]

48. And China would get troops to this Hemisphere how? I mean, past our military defenses?

[triron]

52. perhaps not overtly

but Mexico could ask for military arms.

[WinkyDink]

85. See: Cuba, October 1962.

[Blue Idaho]

62. Maybe they could ask the Russians how to do it...

Or maybe the Cubans could invite a few crack Chinese fighter squadrons to visit them...

[WinkyDink]

82. Not sure what you mean about the Russians; they aren't exactly close. And Cuba is looking forward,

not back, and wants rapprochement with the U.S.

And you do realize we defeated the Russian plan for Cuba in 1962, correct?

AND that Putin likes Trump?

[Blue Idaho]

87. Russia sure figured out how to put missles in Cuba...

As far as China goes - do some research on China's inroads into Latin America. They are already here.

[meadowlander]

65. They have ICBMs with a 12,000km range

Not saying it's likely they would use them, but China wouldn't need to get troops past our defenses if they wanted to aid Mexico.

[WinkyDink]

83. Oh, and they'd "help" Mexico by shooting these AT Mexico's border?!?!

[EX500rider]

91. A country with 100 to 400 nukes would be insane to launch any at..

.....a country with over 6,000 warheads, with a good number hidden safely at sea. Even more so a country with a working multi-layered ABM system, already set up to defeat threats coming out of Asia. (ie N Korea)

[Sunlei]

79. China invests heavy in South America. There are no borders and everyone accepts bribes.

[WinkyDink]

84. Investments are not military troops.

[Blue Idaho]

88. China's investment include military weapons.

Along with military weapons comes advisors and technical support.

[Sunlei]

89. china can move ANYTHING they want through cargo flights, anywhere in the world.

most recently through Jordan, China acquired a couple of shipments of baby gorillas, 8 in all- freshly poached in Africa by shooting the mothers to grab the young..

don't underestimate their ability to ship anything they want anywhere.

[triron]

40. what an insane idiot! (Trump that is, not Nieto!)

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Remember the AlamOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Viva Max!

with

Jonathan Winters
John Astin
Peter Ustinov

[spiderpig]

45. I'm wondering if, facing his own mortality at age 70,

combined with his own unparalled narcissism, he is planning to take the planet with him.

He's the most dangerous lunatic in power I've seen in my lifetime.

[WinkyDink]

49. No. He loves his children and grandchildren too much to consciously think like that.

[VMA131Marine]

51. I dont think he loves anyone but himself

As a parent, the best that you could say is he was mostly absent when it came to raising his kids.

[spiderpig]

54. I agree.

And he views his children as only extensions of his wonderful self.

[radical noodle]

55. His children are assets to him

If they were to become liabilities in some way, they would be toast.

[dawn frenzy adams]

66. Loves his children and grandchildren too much?

You've got to be kidding.

[WinkyDink]

86. No; why should I be? He has involved them in every single aspect of his life.

[Goonch]

50. Impulse Control Disorder

[radical noodle]

53. Lawrence O'Donnell

Is going to talk about this in a minute.

[triron]

58. missed it.

can you brief us on it?

[radical noodle]

64. Not much new but the idiocy of it was discussed

and it is a real story and not bs. Leakers are thriving in the WH, apparently. It sounds like everyone is on their own there, trying to save themselves.

[SCVDem]

56. Putin invades the Ukraine

Trump has to one up Vlad. Mexico gets picked because it's close and they don't belong to NATO.

Will our military follow illegal orders to assault American citizens? Kent State was a peaceful protest too.

[DFW]

57. I know some rather odious hombres right there in Washington

Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve Bannon, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, for example.

No need to to go sending troops to Mexico. This isn't 1916. What about protecting America from all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC??? It seems like we've got some of the worst hombres around, and they're a cab ride (or less!) from 1600. Why go to the expense of looking for lesser dangers south of the Rio Grande when we have enough of them north of the Potomac?

[msongs]

59. wonder how many mexican americans voted for trump to invade their ancestral homeland? nt

[Lilymae]

67. Is Mexico off my list to run to now?

Just when I thought Mexico was an option for me and my family,I read this! Where to now, pray tell? This is my first post here, you all have been my heroes! Thank-you!

[burrowowl]

69. K&R!!!!!!

[LudwigPastorius]

70. In power for 12 days and he's already considering authorizing an Act of War against an ally.

At some point, patriots with level heads will have to remove this man from the Oval Office.

I'd rather it be done peacefully and constitutionally, but Trump is angering the intelligence community and military, and is pushing the country toward a crisis of unprecedented proportions.

[Cha]

71. STFU, blotus.. you're your own worst enemy

[TomCADem]

72. OMG, What a F*&in Idiot! Is His Goal Is To Push Mexico to Russia?

By threatening to invade? And we thought the Cuban missle crisis was bad. What happens when Russia offers Mexico protection from the belligerent Trump?

[Pachamama]

73. Now we know the real reason the Mexican President canceled the Monday scheduled visit!

Because being told your country may have foreign army sent in, kind of ruins things...

[Sunlei]

74. there goes Americans money for schools, roads and bridges.

[OldHippieChick]

75. It's all sabre-rattling and goading

He has no reason to invade any foreign country at this time, so he is trying to goad them into doing something so he can "save" us. Such a playground bully w/ no appreciation of the precarious position this puts us in and the respect we lose all over the world.