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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:03 AM Jul 2012

Schools deny girls cervical cancer jabs on religious grounds

Source: Guardian

Schools deny girls cervical cancer jabs on religious grounds
Female pupils not being offered potentially life-saving vaccine at schools that oppose premarital sex

guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 18 July 2012 02.01 EDT


Schoolgirls are being denied a potentially life-saving cervical cancer jab at their schools on religious grounds.

Some schools in England have opted out of the HPV vaccination programme because their pupils follow strict Christian principles and do not have sex outside marriage. The jab guards against two strains of the human papillomavirus (HPV) virus – 16 and 18 – which cause 70% of cases of cervical cancer. It is offered routinely to girls aged 12 to 13.

But an investigation by GP magazine found 24 schools in 83 of England's 152 primary care trust (PCT) areas were opting out of the vaccination programme, many of them on religious grounds.

The magazine found the majority of schools opting out did not tell their local GPs, where the girls could be offered the vaccine.


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/18/cervical-cancer-vaccine-schoolgirls-religion

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Schools deny girls cervical cancer jabs on religious grounds (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2012 OP
Teh stupid! sakabatou Jul 2012 #1
Well, it does! AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #5
The truly sad part is you don't have to have sex to contract HPV. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #14
How stupid. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #2
Their pupils do not have sex outside marriage? Are they really, really sure? tclambert Jul 2012 #3
Just like school administrators LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #21
The HPV vaccine is NO more an invitation to having premarital relations than ... 66 dmhlt Jul 2012 #4
Perfect analogy! randome Jul 2012 #10
The stupid is spreading to Europe. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #6
Not so sure about the "spreading" whathehell Jul 2012 #12
Good point... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #13
Thanks whathehell Jul 2012 #16
I didn't mean to ridicule it in general... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #17
I get you...n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #20
Cool... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #22
Sure.. whathehell Jul 2012 #24
And what if the girls are raped by someone with HPV? Ian David Jul 2012 #7
Exactly. Not all rapists use condoms. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2012 #8
And condoms are largely useless in preventing HPV, anyway. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #15
Accepting the parents' premise: Patiod Jul 2012 #9
Aw gee.. whathehell Jul 2012 #11
Even good christian girls who wait could get it via rape 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #18
Idiots. When I was in school, the Catholic school girls were the worst (or best, depending on POV) Xithras Jul 2012 #19
gOD will protect you from cancer... NoodleyAppendage Jul 2012 #23

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
5. Well, it does!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:11 AM
Jul 2012

If I get my girl this shot, that will give her the bright idea that it will be okay to have as much sex as she wants. Therefore, the shot promotes promiscuity.

Seriously...that's how they think, even though cases of HPV can be spread from the man to the woman, so who's to say that her HUSBAND couldn't give her the virus?

My oldest daughter got the vaccine, and my younger is in the process (you get it in stages). I am so thrilled that this will be one disease they won't have to worry about as they go on with their lives. I wish they had it when I was a teen.

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
14. The truly sad part is you don't have to have sex to contract HPV.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jul 2012

There are over 100 forms of HPV, and only about 30 are sexually transmitted.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
3. Their pupils do not have sex outside marriage? Are they really, really sure?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 06:40 AM
Jul 2012

They know because their teenage girls PROMISE not to. Report of teenage pregnancies in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
4. The HPV vaccine is NO more an invitation to having premarital relations than ...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:28 AM
Jul 2012
Wearing a seatbelt is an invitation to having a car accident.
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
13. Good point...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jul 2012

one day we are going to have to realize how batshit crazy these people are, stop respecting their beliefs, and open them to general ridicule. I don't cherish the idea of this, but public health and safety should trump bronze age belief systems.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
16. Thanks
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jul 2012

although I'm not an atheist and don't think religion in general should be "held up for ridicule"

I'm VERY much in favor of the separation of church and state and

and against fundamentalist Islam, Christianity, Judaism, whatever,

trumping science and common sense, especially when it comes to health and public life.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
17. I didn't mean to ridicule it in general...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jul 2012

only when dimwits say they won't vaccinate because premarital sex is against their religion, or against sex Ed for the same reason. Or think that creationism should be taught as a valid scientific theory. When religion goes against common sense then it is fair game.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. Cool...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jul 2012

sorry about that- re-reading it myself, it did come across a little harsher than I intended

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
7. And what if the girls are raped by someone with HPV?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:45 AM
Jul 2012

I read somewhere that as many as 1/3 of girls may lose their virginity to rape.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
9. Accepting the parents' premise:
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:44 AM
Jul 2012

Do they honestly believe, deep in their conservative Christian hearts, that even if little Rebecca remains 100% pure and untouched until her wedding evening, that her groom will have done so as well? Really?

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
11. Aw gee..
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jul 2012

I guess this is bad news for all the europhiles here who were convinced

it was only their own country that held these dumb, religious nuts.

I'm afraid the cognitive dissonance will be tough.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
19. Idiots. When I was in school, the Catholic school girls were the worst (or best, depending on POV)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jul 2012

I'm sure all of their parents would have tripped over themselves to tell everyone how good and chaste their daughters really were.

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
23. gOD will protect you from cancer...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:02 PM
Jul 2012

...and if not, then it was his wish that you die anyway. Or some sort of twisted dumbass logic like that...

J

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