Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver

[dipsydoodle]

Source: BBC News

There are reports of casualties after a shooting incident at a Batman film premiere in the US city of Denver.

Police said 30 to 40 people had been injured in the incident, Colorado state's 850 KOA radio reported.

A reporter for the 9News website at the scene says a gunman opened fire at the movie cinema complex in Aurora, where three theatres had a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises.

Witnesses said someone wearing a gas mask opened fire



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

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Reports: 10 Shot Dead At Batman Film Premiere.

A masked gunman shot dead 10 people and wounded 30 to 40 others at a premiere showing of the new Batman movie in Denver.

Local radio reported people running screaming from the Century Aurora 16 Movie Theater in a mall in the suburb of Aurora.

The gun man reportedly opened fire after 30 minutes of the showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" and also set off a smoke or tear gas bomb.

Brenda Stuart, from 850 KOA Radio, told Sky News: "This started with a midnight showing of the new Dark Knight movie and the theatres were packed that were showing this movie.

http://news.sky.com/story/962756/reports-10-shot-dead-at-batman-film-premiere

[JI7]

1. CNN just had breaking news on this

[Spitfire of ATJ]

2. Why am I not surprised?

Thanks Rush!

I swear, that Pig needs to be KICKED off the air.

[AllyCat]

145. It seems more than coincidence that he made his comments about Bane/Bain

and then this happens. Investigate the crime, make charges, support the victims, and prosecute Rush's fat arse.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

148. Strip Rush down, cover him in oil and give the parents cattle prods.

[Ter]

167. Rush told someone to start shooting innocents in a movie theater?

Any link?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

173. "Any link?"

Yeah, but it's missing.

[Tsiyu]

3. Was just about to post this

here's another link:

http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/264659/81/Possible-20-injured-in-shooting-at-Colorado-movie-theather

another:

http://www.rt.com/news/shooting-dark-knight-rises-batman-denver-aurora-654/

At least 12 moviegoers were reportedly killed and 20 injured at a cinema in the Colorado city of Aurora in the Denver suburbs. They were attending a midnight showing of the new Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises.

­Local media reports that two gunmen were involved in the rampage. An explosive device was set off during the shooting, injuring several people.

The theater was packed with a lot of people, many of them young fans, at the time the shooting started, 9news reports. The violence erupted some 15 minutes after the movie started, witnesses said.

Witnesses said the gunmen were probably wearing some kind of body armor and gas masks and used some kind of a tear gas bomb in the attack


Edit: Caller to Coast to Coast said one suspect apprehended, another on loose, one baby among dead, none of this confirmed

[antigone382]

164. I was at a premiere last night...

And to me, the excitement of the theatre staff and the patrons was the best part of the movie. A bunch of young kids in costume laughing and excited together...the workers were all dressed up as batman characters and kept marching in to do cheesy little skits for us before the show started, to pump up the already pumped up crowd...

To think about such a gleeful, youthful, joyfully geeky experience being disrupted so horrifically is beyond words...

[Tsiyu]

174. Beyond words

You are so right.

I'm glad you are safe

Sometimes the world makes no damned sense.

[bluestateguy]

4. We need to wait and see what the facts are

and that means disregarding anything from twitter or the corporate media.

[dipsydoodle]

16. The "corporate media"

are simply reporting / reiterating what the local radio station is saying. There is no additional conjecture on the subject.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. Watch the Right Wing claim this was done by someone on the Left.

Either to hurt Rush or they'll claim it was done to promote a gun grab.

Or both.

[elleng]

6. Masked gunman

with gas mask.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/07/20/arts/20reuters-usa-shooting-denver.html?hp

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. I keep thinking of the North Hollywood Shootout.

But what's the MOTIVE?

The theater was filled with a bunch of teens and twenty-somethings.

[Voice for Peace]

162. I suspect RW brainwashing is the motive

no motive that makes sense except to go out and kill whomever
Rush & friends decide is the enemy.

[joshcryer]

7. Another link claiming 12 dead now:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365147/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-shooting.htm

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. Ski masks, body armor, tear gas and gas masks and then shooting into a bunch of youth?

If this were the Bush Years the media would be claiming it was al Qaeda.

[MADem]

9. This is an act of terrorism. It reminds me of the Abadan cinema fire that killed five hundred.

The only difference was, the terrorists--who wanted to make Shah look bad--used fire and chains on the doors.

It took years to bring them to justice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Rex_fire


Just the other day, we had a guy shoot up a bar in Alabama, and now this? WTF?

[SlipperySlope]

11. I have been listening to the police/fire radio feed. 10 dead, 30 injured.

Police/Fire radio reports 10 people are dead. 30 people have been transported to various area hospitals.

Higher number of injured are being reported by the media.

I've also read some early reports that the shooter(s) wore gas masks and used some sort of smoke/gas grenades. Nothing I've heard on the police radio corroborates this.

[Tsiyu]

12. Here's ABC Live Blog

it's MSM, but there ya go...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558

[Tsiyu]

19. Aurora police radio dispatch

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=43

[fizzgig]

13. 10 dead, 39 injured

one in custody.

i'm an hour north of denver and have had the local nbc affiliate on for almost an hour now. my best friend called me and we've been on the phone, listening to the scanner and scouring for information.

this is madness.

[joshcryer]

14. Aurora PD going to address media in 10 minutes (315AM MDT), live stream:

http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

edit: doesn't appear like it happened but we'll see if they come on soon...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. Live feed to Aurora Police and Fire

http://tunein.com/radio/Aurora-Police-and-Fire-s145268/

[joshcryer]

18. Another link:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=43

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Just heard 50 people injured.

Now 14 confirmed dead.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. This is just so sad

When I heard this thing about "tear gas", I'm like

[joshcryer]

21. A lot of people go to these premiers dressed up. This is going to put an end to that, sadly.

The guy could've been easily misidentified as a "cosplayer" and could've gone in fully loaded and no one would've been the wiser.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. That's true

I know back in the '70s going dressing up for Rocky Horror...

Some of the theaters here in the Philly area have had metal detectors for decades.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

36. I know back in the '70s going dressing up for Rocky Horror...

That had a theater at Huntington Beach that played that movie exclusively for YEARS.

[MADem]

62. That, and a cop or two on duty will be the "new normal."

It'll be like going out for pizza in Tel Aviv!

[joshcryer]

65. Police are often present at these large premiers.

But yeah, I don't know how you could stop this sort of thing short of having a police state.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. We could START by designing a better exit door.

You know,...one that can't be kicked in?

For all we know, the frame went with it so maybe mount it a little better?

[wordpix]

183. how about starting with some GUN CONTROL laws that work?

Instead of the patchwork of state-by-state laws we have now, where in some states it's a free for all. Like AZ, for example---one report on the Fast & Furious gun sales was that a registered gun seller had a sign on the door about limits on semi-auto weapons: "one per day." I mean, how many semi-automatics does a person need if he's not (probably illegally) selling these weapons?

Don't know how loose CO gun laws are but I'm betting they're loose.

Expecting NRA gun nuts to let me have it now.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

188. Wouldn't the door be easier?

[gopiscrap]

147. Try getting rid of fucking guns

yeah, there would be some problems at the beginning, but eventually (like many European countries) we'd have a fucking shitload less guns out in circulation.

[calimary]

156. That's where I went, immediately.

I was listening to Stephanie Miller's show this morning and there was a guest or caller on there from overseas. Spoke with a British accent. And he commented that the rest of the world looks at us here in the United States and can't understand the whole gun obsession thing. But they sure notice the difference in their own murder (AND mass-murder) rates versus ours. And the one difference? The ridiculously easy access to guns here.

I don't understand it myself.

[wordpix]

184. You'll be hearing from the NRA nuts about this one

My thoughts, too, exactly

[awoke_in_2003]

179. Hell, for me...

It was the 80s dressing up to see RHPS

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. Reports say he just marched right in and went into this mutiplex and headed straight

for theater 8 where the movie was playing and started his attack.

Sounds like he didn't even try to pose as a patron.

[joshcryer]

35. Yeah, but these events are always staffed by lots of police.

From a distance the police could've considered him just a patron.

It's not typical or normal to be walking around with a gas mask.

Unless you're playing dress up for an action movie.

edit: not sure if you're watching the stream but a guy even made that same observation. Large movie premiers have police, it's quite common, especially in theaters like this one which is in a seedy area.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

54. Was this guy really short?

[joshcryer]

63. The shooter or the guy being interviewed?

I heard the shooter was like 6 feet tall but the guy being interviewed was kinda short, yeah.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

67. I meant the shooter.

I figured he might have looked like kid in a halloween costume but at 6' there goes that theory.

[calimary]

157. Heard on the radio that he was 6'3".

[closeupready]

22. Horrible - hope everyone here and their loved ones are safe.

K&R

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. They're now saying it was just one guy.

[MichaelHarris]

25. type of weapon?

I have a pretty good idea but I wonder if they've identified the weapon.

[Tsiyu]

57. AR-15 ?

That's what I read. Sound right?

edit: fat fingers

[cleanhippie]

149. I'll bet he had a scanner, too!

[AtheistCrusader]

151. Two pistols, a rifle, tear gas, and some sort of explosives.

At least two of those items he was prohibited from acquiring.

[joshcryer]

26. approx 50 hit and 14 dead :(

Gunman released canister then opened fired. Only know of one gunman. No evidence of additional shooters. Officers responded and found the gunman in the back of the theater in a car. In possession of a gasmask and guns.

Approximately 50 hit, 14 dead. 10 in the theater and 4 died at the area hospitals.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. They're talking "smoke bomb" not Tear Gas now.

[Firebrand Gary]

27. Police Chief Dan Oates: 14 Dead, 36 Injured.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Sounds like he just stood there and sprayed the room with bullets.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. They found explosives at his residence.

[dipsydoodle]

31. BBC now has live text coverage here :

Use this link : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685

Some video coverage from the scene too.

[LongTomH]

160. Picture of the suspect, from BBC

1736: The University of Colorado has just released this photo of its former student, the suspected gunman James Holmes:

Edited to add: The BBC live feed just said the count of the dead is now 14 people.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. Just heard there were explosions as well.

Like this guy tossed some bombs into the crowd.

That would explain the high numbers for just one guy with a semi-auto.

[Tsiyu]

33. And the wacknuts are on the intertubes blaming the librulls

already, claiming this is just a false flag to "take all our guns away!" with the UN's help.


Every fucking tragedy is all about them....

sick.

[joshcryer]

37. Yeah, they're just preempting the possiblity a wingnut was triggered by Limbaugh.

[Tsiyu]

53. They are so paranoid about their guns

it's really sad.

None of them has mentioned Limpballs, but you have a point as well.

My heart goes out to all the victims. Here a bunch of kids go to have fun on a summer night and some violent goon has to destroy it all for an agenda.

And the sad thing is, the wacknuts all clutching their semi-autos to their bosoms would do THE SAME THING this shooter did if they could get away with it - and some of them plan to if the shit hits the fan. Except their targets would be blacks and librulls.

They're all just worried someone might take their guns away before they can go on their own killing sprees. They have no regard for life.

[ileus]

58. exactly spot on...

I've never know a gun owner without a secret plan to go on a killing spree.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. LOL!

You do now!

I own guns.

But I'm sane.

[Tsiyu]

68. I have. I'm one of them

but the same posters ( on other sites where they let the wacknuts spew their lunacy ) who are crying like infants that this shooting is Obama's scheme to take their weapons away happen to be the same posters who have wet dreams about "killin' the librulls" and blacks and gays and feminists and atheists and anything else living and breathing they don't like.

SAME ones.

They aren't concerned about the loss of life here. Not one bit. They are only concerned with the farfetched possible loss of their own ability to someday kill all their "enemies" in similar fashion.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

79. These idiots are waiting for a "Go" order like a bunch of Brownshirts.

Someone should clue them in on the fate of the original Brownshirts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

[wordpix]

185. I believe the RW oligarchy encourages gun nuts & militias as tools of the ReichWing takeover

This is what I see

The very wealthy could care less about guns except to keep the riff-raff out of their gated communities (unless the latter are there to fix the toilets), and to hunt threatened species for sport.

But the very wealthy support the NRA, militias and pro-gun legislation as a side issue to get the gun nuts to vote for those bought by the 1%.

As a bonus, the 1% now is so tied to the militias/NRA that when they want to engineer another coup as they did in 2000, if they need the Brownshirts, they are ready. All they'll need is the call from the Kochtypes via Limpballs, Michelle Bachmann and the rest of the 1% PR/Communications team.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

187. I think it's much simpler than that.

Our 1% is proud to be a bunch of cold hearted bastards and some people believe that is the key to riches so they shut off the part that cares about others.

[leftynyc]

84. Don't know where you live

but that's nonsense. There are plenty of us, right here at DU that would never consider a shooting spree.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

89. Well,....ya,...I guess.....

[Spitfire of ATJ]

92. I guess I'm more of a tied to the chair in the warehouse type.

Must be from hanging around Teamsters.

I'd STILL like to tie Dubya and Cheney to the ride at Disneyland "It's a Small World After All" and keep sending them through and see which of them cracks first.

We already know Dubya will be singing along at one point so the odds favor Cheney as the winner.

[obamanut2012]

109. I can assure you I have no "secret shooting spree plan"

Most gun owners aren't sociopaths, and many of us are liberals.

Ridiculous.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

113. I spent hours deer hunting with UAW workers and truck driving Teamsters back in Michigan in the 70s.

They were VERY Liberal.

[progressivebydesign]

150. don't know about that, but on every news forum in the past few years the gun owners appeared

and they post, every single day, about shooting people. They want to kill people that shoplift, steal cars, start fights, you name it. They post that they sleep with their guns next to their heads loaded, they keep loaded guns on their coffee tables, etc. They are convinced, even though crime has gone WAY down, that someone is after them and they openly say that they WISH someone would break in so they could kill them...

Someone is riling them up and making them even crazier than they were. Seriously, it's never been this way. Look at the comments on any news station site, it's all the same "lock and load" The right wing media and the NRA have found that it's profitable to make them paranoid and aggressive... and they're reporting that this guy may have been a tea party type. They're being pushed to the brink, and though I used the word "crazy" I don't believe that most of them are truly insane, but curated to violence.

[obamanut2012]

159. "Gun owners" didn't post that

Probable sociopaths posted that.

I know many gun owners, including myself, and none of them talk that way, including myself.

It has been posted it was another James Holmes who is the Teabagger.

[Tsiyu]

175. I could fill up DU with posts like that

From other sites.

There are a lot of fools who want war, who are just waiting to go all Rambo on "the librulls and the atheists and the Kenyan sympathizers"

They want blood, and it's sad. They have no desire to work together to make this country work. Their solution is to kill everyone who doesn't look,act, talk or spit chew like they do.

Anyone who's been to any other mixed political site knows this. Why do you think they send money to Zimmerman?

[randome]

177. Actually, I think they want to TALK about it more than actually do anything.

Which is good.

[Tsiyu]

180. Let's hope

to be honest, I sleep with loaded guns nearby. I have been a victim of violence and I never will be again - I hope - at least not in my own home.

But as much as I loathe the cretins and teabagging racist Big Talkers, I have no desire to go on a rampage at a Teabagger potluck.

Something has created a rift that makes some Americans think they have the right to kill anyone whom they don't like or with whom they disagree. I am blaming the media.

And I believe a lot of these goons WOULD shoot librulls if given free reign, and they would have no remorse about it. Look at how they see Zimmerman as a hero! They think if you see someone black, it's your right to kill that person because hey, they MIGHT be dangerous. They are so full of hate, it's very very sad.

There are a lot of messed up people out there with guns. That's why this liberal has her own guns.

[randome]

181. Don't blame you at all.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

40. I called that right.

I took a screen shot in the comments section of the local TV coverage.

[IMG][/IMG]

[Tsiyu]

44. You sure did

Saw that up top.

Yes, all the sites I lurk are up in arms ( no pun intended ) about the UN Small Arms treaty and how this attack in Aurora is now Obama's chance to take their guns away.

As if.

I am a gun owner, and the last thing I'm worried about is having my guns taken away. But for these freaks, their guns are their goddamned lives.

EVERYTHING is about their guns. They can't even express sympathy for the victims. Just insults and terror over the nonexistent fear of losing all their weapons. Sick, sick people.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

46. You could cut off their piddler and they'd be happy if they have their guns.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

66. BTW: A big difference between us and them

When something like this goes down our first reaction isn't to do a roll call to determine if it was one of us.

[Tsiyu]

72. True dat!

Pretty sad times, huh?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

96. What's actually funny is seeing them expose themselves so much

Often as they rail about the government knowing all about them, then they go on to tell us all about themselves.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

103. BTW: I just remembered the time I pissed off a gun nut so much he posted his adress

Then he told me he was waiting for me.

I like to think he still is.

.....i know,.....I'm vicious......

[The Wielding Truth]

105. Truth in media is the problem. Wild irrational speech can panic and enrage gullible believers.

[Ian David]

101. Right. Because some podunk movie theater would be just the trick to do it.

Freepers are fucking insane.

[snooper2]

139. "every fucking tragedy is all about them" You check the DU homepage "trending"

we have our own fringe obviously using this to further an agenda as well...


Pretty pathetic on both sides-

[Doctor_J]

153. This will be the prevailing theory in the gungeon too

they're convinced Obama is attempting to implement prohibition.

[safeinOhio]

38. Thanks for the report Dipsy.

I get my latest news from DU.

[jimlup]

39. BBC is saying 14 dead

Remind me again why we think that the 2nd Amendment is still relevant. How many more must die for this frontier era thinking.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

41. They'll say this proves they need their guns more than ever.

[Doctor_J]

154. and that this could have been prevented if everyone in the theater was strapped

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. I'm glad they captured him and he wasn't another one of those guys

who blows away a bunch of people and then shoots himself.

We might get his motive.

[DCBob]

45. Yes, it is.

But dont expect this lunatic to say anything that makes any sense regarding a motive.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. Most of these guys can't shut up to the cops

It's just a matter of what he says being made public.

[DCBob]

50. I think the best insights will come from the investigation.

They might find some writings or forum postings or activites he was involved in that might suggest a motive.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

56. It depends on how fast a lawyer gets between him and the cops.

[magical thyme]

140. a lawyer can't scrub the internets faster than people can search and copy

screenshots once his name is released. And it will be released.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

141. It was.

People are searching for clues now.

[madrchsod]

43. i listen to bbc overnight and i woke up and thought i was dreaming...

then i thought this was happening in another country. then i realized this happened in Colorado.

[brettdale]

48. CNN guest blaming batman

First thoughts and wishes go out to the victims family and friends.

Secondly CNN INternational has a guy on, he seems to be putting the blame on the
batman movie being violent.

I dont understand the media. This awful event is only a few hours old and they
are blaming a freakin movie.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. Sure, a movie he never saw influenced him.

.....uh huh......

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

55. Seriously?

Sounds like this monster had this planned out before he saw a single frame of the film.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. Another idiot pushing the culture war

Longing for the days of Lassie and Laurence Welk.

[Kablooie]

78. The guy wasn't in the audience . He kicked in the emergency door to enter.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

108. You were right when you reported this. Nice Scoop.

[obamanut2012]

112. How in the hell was he able to do that?

[lapfog_1]

49. Chills

Just yesterday I remarked to my friend about the Romney troubles with Bain and tax returns..." Romney needs another Columbine type incident to distract the media from these stories"

And, I used to live about 2 miles from Columbine High School (moved from Denver area before it happened) AND I worked about 2 miles from where this happened in Aurora.

very strange.

I am not suggesting that the shooter in any way is connected to the right wing of this country, not even so far as Rush Limpballs making the silly "Bane" / "Bain" comparison and possibly instigating someone to go "kill the movie" by shooting up a theater showing it.

But... then again... it is very odd.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

51. Heard on the dispatch calls demands for gas masks

So it wasn't just a smoke bomb.

They said they couldn't get into the theater.

[ileus]

61. 24yo asshat no respect for human life.

Prayers for the injured and victim's families.

[joshcryer]

64. Some fucking asshole called in and pretended to be the Chief and made an American Idol joke.

[TheMightyFavog]

128. Was it that asshole from Howard Stern?

What the fuck is wrong with that shithead?

And don't the people at CNN know how to screen people like him out?

[maryellen99]

146. Stern has been pulling that crap for YEARS

They would always prank call CNN back in the 90s and early 2000's.

[bucolic_frolic]

69. Mitt will solve all these problems

by cracking down on pornography

ending the EPA

Drilling for oil in National Parks

sending our jobs to China

giving more tax cuts to the wealthy

Those are the real problems in America

[Spitfire of ATJ]

73. That and the NRA needs to hold their next convention in Aurora.

[calimary]

158. They'll probably want to.

[Panasonic]

165. They'll have to go to the local Chuck E Cheese in Aurora

only place capable of holding all the gun nuts.

And Nathan Dunlap shot up the Aurora Chuck E Cheese, less than a mile from my best friend's home.

I met one of the managers of Chuck E Cheese and told me his story.

Now Dunlap's in the death row, waiting for the needle sometime this year or next.

[cal04]

70. President Obama notified of the shooting by homeland security

RT @jaketapper: At 5:26 am ET, POTUS was notified of the shooting in Aurora, Colorado, by homeland security adviser John Brennan.

https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/226263712321921024

Watching live
my heart goes out to all these people, omg
50 injuries 14 confirmed dead
children's hospital treating people there from ages 6-31, youngest is 6
http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

[Motown_Johnny]

71. MSNBC reporting death toll is now 15 (~6:40 am est)

[onehandle]

74. Just another day in gun culture. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

123. Next up

How every gun he owned was legal.

Then the NRA will claim the opposite because gun nuts hate it when they lose a nut.

[Dragonfli]

144. Looks like Zimmy has some competition for poster boy to the Gun strokers

We see murder, they see how efficient and cool his firearm was, gun nuts love their heroes.

Publicly of course they will claim the death wasn't caused by guns, they are a philosophical lot when it comes to why these people die, it is never because of guns even tho it is. Very esoteric bunch full of rationalizations for the need to own tools designed to maim and kill their neighbors.

They are taking over this site as well, lot of right wing ideas came in with all the Dino's.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

75. Colorado's 9News interviews two witnesses

&feature=player_embedded

as found here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558

[Spitfire of ATJ]

82. From now on, cops at the back door too.

[Tsiyu]

76. Scanners possibly naming suspect

Last edited Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:01 AM - Edit history (1)

some reports saying a "Ruben Guttirez" 24 yo white male is suspect.

Unconfirmed at this point, just chatter on radio

On edit: this could be one of the victims as well.

12 dead is new revised number.

[Cooley Hurd]

77. This happened 15 miles from Columbine HS...

Christ...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

116. And they call California the lad of fruits and nuts.

[cal04]

80. just confirmed 3 month old wounded

KUSA: Youngest Among Wounded 3 Months Old
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/kusa-youngest-among-wounded-3-months-old

so tragic

[scheming daemons]

93. Who takes a 3 month old to a midnight movie premier?

Seriously?

[barbtries]

131. probably young parents

who can't afford a babysitter and otherwise never get out of the house. the worst thing they probably thought could happen was the baby woke up and wouldn't stop crying. not that they'd be getting shot at in the theater.
it's hard being poor. i would withhold judgment. save it for the murderer.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

81. Reminds me of the McDonalds shooting from the '80s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald's_massacre

[bemildred]

83. And who can forget the Luby's Cafeteria Massacre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

[Frank Cannon]

86. As if the people eating at Luby's Cafeteria...

didn't have it bad enough already.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

115. .....heh.....

[Hassin Bin Sober]

137. Never realized that guy was a rightie too.

I mean, I should have known but I never looked at the case since it happened.


Some things never change:

Huberty, a survivalist, saw signs of what he thought was growing trouble in America, and believed that government regulations were the cause of business failures, including his own. He believed that international bankers were purposefully manipulating the Federal Reserve System and bankrupting the nation. Convinced that Soviet aggression was everywhere, he believed that the breakdown of society was near, perhaps through economic collapse or nuclear war. He committed himself to prepare to survive this coming collapse and, while in Canton, provisioned his house with thousands of dollars of non-perishable food and six guns that he intended to use to defend his home during what he believed was the coming chaos. When he moved from Ohio he left the food behind but brought the guns with him.[3]

[Kablooie]

85. I wouldn't be surprised if there are copycat shootings in the next few months.

It's the first shooting in a crowded theater.
Now that the precedent has been set and it's so effective other insane assholes may want to try it.

[AsahinaKimi]

88. live news link (radio)

http://tvpc.com/Channel.php?ChannelID=8916


If anyone has access to a live TV link on line, please post thanks

[Kablooie]

91. Here is a live feed.

http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

I guess you can't sleep tonight either.

[AsahinaKimi]

99. thanks

Tv saying his name is "James Holms"

[Spitfire of ATJ]

126. Wow

Followed yours to this link

http://tklist.net/tklist/cat33.html

Multiple live feeds from popular sources nicely laid out.

Worth a bookmark.

Thank you.

[AsahinaKimi]

133. book marked

watching this
http://www.9news.com/video/65071045001/1/KUSA-Livestream-Red-18287

[Spitfire of ATJ]

135. That's better than the live NBC feed.

Thanks.

[Festivito]

90. He stopped by "his" white car with Tennessee license plates.

NBC TV so no link.

He did not seem to resist arrest. I gather this is the car they check for bombs.

[Keefer]

95. Just released

Suspect: James Holmes, born December 13, 1987

[Tsiyu]

98. Just saw that

per NBC,

link: http://twitter.com/mpoppel/status/226286503075147776

[Renew Deal]

97. This sounds like a crazy person more than RW terrorism

Sadly there are crazy people in the world and the more people there are,the more crazies there will be. We'll see. Maybe he's a Laughner/Brevik type.

[maryellen99]

102. Wasn't Brevik RW though? NT

[Renew Deal]

104. Yes

I'm saying it is possible. You never know what these crazies have cooked up until the manifesto is released. They follow the same pattern.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

106. Oh yeah,...the media told us he wasn't Right Wing...

Even though he sounded like Glenn Beck,...and talked about the gold standard....

Funny how the chief had to back off under pressure from his original comments. I mean,...What did he know? He'd only just talked to the prisoner.

[Ian David]

100. I've got a dollar that says this guy was a Limbaugh fan, upset over the Bane/Bain nonsense. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

121. Ditto

[randome]

134. I think it's more likely he's upset that Romney and the GOP are going down this year.

The disconnect between Romney's lunacy and wanting to support him may drive some insane.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

136. You've got a point there.

Selling people a Wall Street Guy to replace a Black Guy is a dilemma of who they hate more.

[Iggy]

107. NPR reporting 12 dead. 7:20am eastern time

"America the Beautiful"?

NO longer... now it's America the Chock Full O' Nuts nation.

not only do we have numerous nuts of every stripe and color, but our nuts are heavily armed.

I'm going to be _very_ p'd off if this is yet another perp with an ax to grind.. a guy who has
been posting to extremist websites for years... and the cops "knew about him but couldn't do
anything".

[obamanut2012]

110. I keep thinking about all of the young people there

Excited to be at the midnight showing.

Ho in the world did he get into the theater with those types of weapons? The theaters I go made you open your coats and purses or messenger bags, and I don't even live in a high-crime urban area.

[Kablooie]

111. He kicked in the emergency door to get in.

[Blue_Tires]

114. I thought emergency doors in theaters only opened outward?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

117. Obviously these could go inwards if you were wearing the right footwear.

[Tsiyu]

118. I read one unconfirmed report

that a moviegoer was interviewed by CBS in Denver saying he was seated in the 2nd row, someone close by got a phone call minutes before movie started and went to try to open the emergency door.

A few minutes later gunman came through the same door.

again, this is unconfirmed, but could explain how he got in...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

119. Someone on the inside unlocked the door for him?

[Tsiyu]

132. Not confirmed

REad this on another site, that a Denver local had heard a witness saying this on their CBS station.

They did not provide a link so I cannot confirm the veracity of the story.

But it is one possible way the guy got in, though it would mean someone helped the shooter.

[AtheistCrusader]

152. If true, the person who did it may have had no idea what he or she was doing.

[Blue_Tires]

124. I was also thinking that

If this theater is like some others I know in my area (especially if a lot of teens frequent it), there is usually some heavily used, unwatched backdoor or emergency exit without an alarm that people use to skip paying admission...

It it was THAT kind of door, it might have already been worn/broken/unlatched/propped open

[Spitfire of ATJ]

129. I doubt this guy propped the door open himself and went outside and changed.

You don't stand there in body armor and say, "This? It's just something I threw on." It takes time to apply it.

Maybe it was someone else unrelated who propped the door for someone else to sneak in but, again. Are we supposed to believe this guy would be dressed up in the back of the theater waiting for sheer chance for someone to prop open a door?

[TheMightyFavog]

120. Yeah, I thought ALL exterior doors on buildings were required to open outwards.

Ever since that concert disaster at Riverfront Stadium in the 70s.

[TheMightyFavog]

122. I know this is speculation on my part, but

Could this guy have been ex-military? Perhaps this was a PTSD thing?

[Marrah_G]

127. that thought crossed my mind also

What brings a 24 year old to that sort of internal rage at society?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

130. Want a list?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

138. It did feel like a strike, didn't it.

[Evasporque]

125. Gun culture + Violence Culture + Social and Political Division + Unstable People = tragedy....nt

[dipsydoodle]

142. Paris (France) premier of Dark Knight has been cancelled

"The Dark Knight Rises" Paris premiere, press interviews canceled after Colo. shooting.

(CBS/AP) PARIS - The Paris premiere of "The Dark Night Rises" has been canceled after a gunman killed 12 people early Friday morning in Colorado during a screening of the highly anticipated film.

Workers were pulling down the red carpet display in front of a movie theater on the French capital's famed Champs-Elysees after the Friday premiere was canceled. Some could be seen carrying away a large mask that had adorned the facade of the theater.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57476498-10391698/the-dark-knight-rises-paris-premiere-press-interviews-canceled-after-colo-shooting/

[randome]

143. Geeze, the French show empathy and solidarity for us?

I thought they were part of the that whole 'evil Europe' socialistic stuff. Or whatever.

[slackmaster]

161. Perhaps, or maybe security concerns

The possibility of an opportunistic or "copycat" attack.

[randome]

166. Did not think about that.

[Son of Gob]

182. The country of France didn't cancel it, it's Warner Bros and people involved in the film

The actors and director aren't going to want to smile for the paparazzi on the red carpet after a horrific massacre occurred.

[ono4pono]

155. life imitates art

this very scenario is laid out in detail in Full Black by Brad Thor. the only difference is the guy is a terrorist bomber in a movie theater the premise is to destabilize America by doing this in multiple cities. hopefully this is just one lone terrorist

[CountAllVotes]

163. Great (NOT!)

Another freak with a gun killing a whole batch of people *again*.

When will this shit ever stop?

Answer: When some freak can't buy a gun that is when!

ENOUGH!!!!

[Judi Lynn]

168. Dipsy, just logged on, to be amazed at how quickly you nailed this story! Incredible!

It was far later before we heard a word about it in the middle of the country.

Way to go, and thank you.

[dipsydoodle]

176. I couldn't figure it out at first

when it appeared on the BBC ticker. I guessed Colorado was 7 hours behind the UK so @ 9.45am here it was 2.45am there. Its years since I went to the pictures and to me films start at about 8pm which would mean the incident must've occurred maybe 5 or 6 hours earlier. There was no sign of it on LBN so I posted it.

I think what had happened with regard to BBC and Sky is that they'd picked it from Reuters who'd got it from a local radio station over where you are.

[magic59]

169. Is Rush Limbaugh responsible for this?

A few days ago Rush blamed The Dark Knight Rises movie for attacking Mitts Bain interests.
Could this punk be a right wing gun loving nut that took rush too serious?

[Major Hogwash]

171. Yes, this ain't no fucking coincidence.

I'm wondering now if AFRN will take that fat fuck off of their station.
What's it going to take?

[4th law of robotics]

172. Could be could be

or it could simply be that the batman premiere was probably the largest gathering of people in a small confined place in this town to occur shortly after this kid quit his PhD program and apparently lost his mind.

Occams razor: mind controlling AM radio or opportunistic sadist.

[AntiFascist]

178. He also graduated from UC Riverside...

one of the most conservative areas in California. Maybe owning guns was second nature to him.

[wordpix]

186. "Rush blamed The Dark Knight Rises movie for attacking Mitts Bain interests" - huh????

I don't see the connection at all. Does not compute, but then again, nothing DrugRush says makes sense.

[aikoaiko]

170. This is a terrible tragedy.

My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

[TrogL]

189. We're seeing the movie tonight in memory