Trump Team Wants More Raw Intel, Less Analysis from Spy Agencies: Report

[kstewart33]

Source: The Hill

Officials have urged the intelligence community to supply President Trump with fewer analysis reports compiled by experts and more raw intelligence, the Associated Press reported Saturday.

Raw intelligence was a larger priority under the former national security adviser Michael Flynn, the report said. He was ousted last month for misleading White House officials about the contents of his discussion with Russia's U.S. ambassador.

Many intelligence experts in the past have raised concerns about the possibility that Trump would want to sidestep data analysts during his presidency.

“The risk is that you request raw data to support a conclusion and you avoid seeing anything that contradicts it,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told The Hill in January. “We can already see we have a president-elect who has difficulty with facts that are at odds with the narrative that he wants to tell or diminish his achievements.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/326832-trump-team-wants-more-raw-intel-less-analysis-from-spy-agencies

[Demsrule86]

1. This makes it easier to send to Russia where they can use their own analysis methods.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. My thoughts exactly.

[Demsrule86]

19. Trump is a scum sucking miscreant...

[TeamPooka]

22. to find out where their leaks are.

[Raster]

36. Absolutely! This group has problems with intel served up on a platter...

...they haven't the training or capacity to deal with raw intel. I concur, this does NOT pass the smell test.

[Warpy]

53. Exactly, with Bannon in the catbird seat

self appointed to the NSC.

I hope they're smart enough to keep everything but analysis out of the briefings.

[keithbvadu2]

2. Putin wants know what we know.

[Botany]

8. Maybe Trump can have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and military intel send their raw intel .....

...to his computer by email and have it Cced to Vlad Putin, Steve Bannon, He went to Jared,
and Ambassador Sergy Kiss the Yak. No need to have it analyzed by experts.

[uppityperson]

3. Like that's going to help anything

[Hortensis]

27. They want to "spin" this material to political advantage, but they also

want the leaks from the intelligence services to stop. Anyone here who COULDN'T explain the problem with this to them?

[Kittycow]

4. Yeah, the brainiacs at the WH can cut to the chase.

[christx30]

18. He's the smartest guy in the history of ever.

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Why should he have anyone else analyze it? He can draw upon his years of foreign policy experience to know what's truly going on.

Sorry. Can't say all that with a straight face. The smell of the BS is too strong.
I need a drink. It's going to be a long four years.

[Kittycow]

44. I can't drink or smoke pot due to pain contract.

But Imma look into alcohol free wines for placebo effect!

[Blue Idaho]

5. Cooking the books...

Something that asshole knows all too well...

[yallerdawg]

6. He can get the analysis from...

Breitbart, Infowars and Fox News.

He already has Breitbart in the room.

[CousinIT]

7. Raw data is easier to cherrypick to fit his narrative...

....and Trump and his band of goons don't have the time or intelligence to analyze it. But they will cherrypick what's useful to them and twist it to mean what they want it to mean.

[William Seger]

9. A.k.a. "Cheney the intel" (nt)

[truthisfreedom]

11. Ding ding ding ding ding!

Trump can't handle it when the truth doesn't fit his narrative. He's used to bullying his employees to give him the information he can use to con people into spending money on things they would otherwise avoid like the plague. This is how he ended up with so many bankruptcies. He used other people's money. Now he wants to run the country like a big con.

[MurrayDelph]

13. Because we all saw

how well that worked out for Cheney and W.

[Jonny Appleseed]

29. I don't see them facing trial at the Hague

Instead Bush is a lovable meme and Cheney got fellated by our team last week for calling Russia's hacking an act of war.

[alfredo]

17. Send them the raw, unencrypted data.

[Towlie]

34. Better: Send them the raw ENCRYPTED data.

[alfredo]

50. I meant encrypted data.

[iluvtennis]

10. Seriously...Dumpty can't even understand the report, so he damn sure can't digest the raw data nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Prez Bannon & that snake lawyer Ezra Cohen-Watnick can. . . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Raw data easier to apply pressure on FBI agents, prosecutors, CIA operatives, to stop #TrumpRussia.

[sakabatou]

16. Because Trump himself is the best analyst... in his own head

[riversedge]

20. This is exactly what is happening...

....In the past, critics worried that the raw intelligence provided to the commander-in-chief could be cherry-picked or summarized by his staff that does not include experienced intelligence analysts.

Critics say the George W. Bush administration’s incorrect assessment that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was the result of bypassing intel analysts and using raw data to try to find the conclusion they sought.

[turbinetree]

21. Steve Bannon and this sexual predator should be denied access to "all" information

there is traitor in this bunch

[McCamy Taylor]

23. Why not just send it straight to Putin?

[dalton99a]

55. Bingo.

[Turbineguy]

24. They can send the raw data to Russia for analysis.

If that is, trump can resist tweeting it to everybody.

[Brother Buzz]

25. Trump team wants to go into the Stovepiping business

[jmowreader]

26. Raw intelligence is perfect if you're passing your take to the enemy

The Russians don't want endproduct about Russia. They know what they said and did.

Raw collection tells them HOW we got it, which will allow them to tighten their security.

I hope like hell the Intelligence Community has launched a significant counterintelligence effort against Trump. No one is safe with him in the White House.

[bettyellen]

38. Yes - they claim to be obsessed w "sources and methods" but I agree they're lying about why....

[Thomas Hurt]

28. Those damn reports don't sell on weekends at Mar A Largo

the raw intel will sell like hotcakes. believe me.

[Flaleftist]

46. Very interesting

I have read about what a security nightmare the secret service said that place is. It may be a great place for spies to meet with Trump's people for handoffs and even face to face meetings.

[calimary]

30. Wow - NOBODY'S mentioned that's how cheney got

us into the Iraq war. Had the raw intel stove piped straight into his office.

Gee that sure worked out well, didn't it.

[ck4829]

33. Exactly, +1

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

31. Does the raw information contain sources and methods?

Yeah, why don't we just send that information to Putin. From Trump's eyes to Putin's ears.

Too bad Cheney didn't think of this. He could have avoided all those pesky trips to Foggy Bottom to put the pressure on analysts to "find" what he wanted them to find.

Who needs analysts anyway when you're smarter than any analyst and surround yourself with the best and most important people in the world?

What are the analysts going to do, now that they're out of a job?

[jmowreader]

47. You can determine sources and methods from raw traffic

Raw information also contains primary source designators, which tell you who picked the stuff up in the first place.

Trump could also endanger the people we're targeting. All totalitarian states have extremely strong secrecy laws - fifteen years in a penal colony of special regime for not putting the cover back on your radar antenna. It is not hard to imagine their counterintelligence people going over all the raw data Trump sends them looking for excuses to put people in prison.

I am not comfortable with giving Trump anything more sensitive than reports written by watching the news. But I'm sick to my stomach at the thought of someone so thoroughly compromised as Donald Trump having raw classified traffic he can provide to his agent handler in the Kremlin.

[Solly Mack]

32. Shrump

[Thor_MN]

35. Much easier to out sources from the raw data.

Analysis hides sources via aliasing.

Can't imagine who would find raw data useful...

[MrScorpio]

37. That's insane

Really. That's pure madness.

[TalenaGor]

39. bout time he stops getting any at all.....

[wordpix]

40. my thought exactly - sending ANY intel to the fake pres is dangerous for US

Traitors in the WH, it's a matter of time before the info is outed. We already know some combo of Flynn, Manafort & Trump as well as underlings had major biz dealings w/Russia and ppl needing $ laundered, Nunes invested in a winery with a Kremlin brand co., & Paul Ryan agreed Nunes should go to the WH and brief the pres on WH intel. Also, McCONnell has tried to tamp down Trumprussia. Why send anything to these ppl?

[lark]

41. Raw data is easier to share with his master, Pootie!

He doesnt like seeing analysis that says Russia is up to no good because he loves the mess Russia is making of the world. Dictatorship for all is their moto.

[duncang]

42. But that's unmasking!

I kind of thought they had something against that. Guess not today.

[iluvtennis]

43. Malcolm Nance's comment on the request for raw intel..,

Link to tweet

[Flaleftist]

45. Does this mean he will know the identity

of American spies working in Russia?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. Because he's so much smarter than them

[WhoWoodaKnew]

49. Trump doesn't even read.

[applegrove]

51. Total dyslexia move. Dyslexics love raw primary data. Then they

find their own patterns. In fact they can't process other's analysis with any fluency. Why are good at the sciences, politics, business, acting and other fields where finding simplicity in complex raw data is a virtue. But it would take Trump 30 years to have enough of a background in foreign affaires and espionage and war to be doing his own analysis of raw intelligence.

[burrowowl]

52. trump is going to shift

through raw data or transmit it directly to Putin?

[Tanuki]

54. He lacks the mental capacity to recall that he (or someone) assembled a group of reporters

to witness the signing of an executive order and shuffles out the door with a vacant look on his face, and now he (or someone) wants raw intelligence? Please, someone , invoke Article 25 section 4 before the wheels completely come off!