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Judi Lynn

(160,447 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:18 PM Apr 2017

ALEX JONESS THREAT TO CONGRESSMAN MAY BE A FELONY

Source: Newsweek


BY NINA BURLEIGH ON 4/5/17 AT 3:58 PM


Law enforcement officials are not saying whether they will charge broadcaster Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist ally of President Donald Trump, for publicly threatening to “beat” Representative Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and telling Schiff to “fill your hand”—a reference to taking up a pistol.

But, says an attorney with expertise in federal law, Jones’s threats appear to break a federal law, U.S. Code Title 18, Section 115, which makes it illegal to threaten to assault a U.S. official and provides a penalty of up to six years in prison.

“I do think that the combination of Jones’s comments would amount to a threat,” says Amanda Berman, director of legal affairs with Lawfare Project, a consortium of experts on national security law. “It seems to be a clear provocation. Ultimately, the question would have to be put to a judge or jury, but I think there is a legal basis for a conviction based on Jones’s threat, which was made ‘with intent to impede, intimidate or interfere’ with Congressman Schiff’s exercise of his duties as the ranking member of the committee investigating the connection between the Trump campaign/administration and the Russians.”

Schiff likely became a Jones target because he is the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Schiff has said there is “more than circumstantial” evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russia.



Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-threat-congressman-may-be-felony-579730

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ALEX JONESS THREAT TO CONGRESSMAN MAY BE A FELONY (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2017 OP
Arrest him now. Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #1
yes Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #7
Lock him up Achilleaze Apr 2017 #2
yes Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #8
I think Adam Shiff should file charges against this raving lunatic turbinetree Apr 2017 #3
I wouldn't think he would have to file charges-- Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #12
I made sure the appropriate authorities knew about it yesterday wordpix Apr 2017 #23
Excellent. Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #32
+++ agree iluvtennis Apr 2017 #24
First Bill-o saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #4
but, but, IRS can't investigate b/c they're "conservative charities" wordpix Apr 2017 #22
We are way past IRS involvement jmowreader Apr 2017 #43
Print and Process him, and set a court date. (he's toast) downeastdaniel Apr 2017 #5
There is something really unhinged PatSeg Apr 2017 #6
Jones-Bannon-Trump Trio. Some of Jones' ideas re: 9-11 wordpix Apr 2017 #21
You know PatSeg Apr 2017 #25
I've actually met him. Scruffy1 Apr 2017 #33
I have known some PatSeg Apr 2017 #34
I think they tend to hang only with other batshit crazy people, too. Scruffy1 Apr 2017 #37
Okay PatSeg Apr 2017 #39
watch this LOL- Jones is a big douchebag loser snooper2 Apr 2017 #38
What a great way to start the morning PatSeg Apr 2017 #40
He's probably still angry that Obama was turning all the frogs gay. n/t christx30 Apr 2017 #45
Well somebody PatSeg Apr 2017 #46
Alex Jones Already Instigated Pizzagate Leith Apr 2017 #9
They get no consequences b/c they're protected by other R's, wordpix Apr 2017 #20
Reminds​me of Homeland roscoeroscoe Apr 2017 #10
Lock Him UP. calimary Apr 2017 #11
When will anyone enforce the damned law? displacedtexan Apr 2017 #13
also sick of bribe-and-tax-evade Republics wordpix Apr 2017 #19
That's my question! Plucketeer Apr 2017 #30
Six yrs Hard Time without anal Jelly! Cryptoad Apr 2017 #14
Why the use of the phrase "without anal jelly?" Please describe exactly what you mean. PSPS Apr 2017 #35
You know, since tsuukiyomi Apr 2017 #50
I hope he's arrested. The REAL threat is incitement to violence. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #15
I tweeted FBI yesterday that Jones is inciting for just that reason wordpix Apr 2017 #18
You're proactive! Way to go! I need to take a cue...never occurred to me. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #36
That blubbery ill favored bircher is getting more and more like Andy Breitbart, every day. Nt Mc Mike Apr 2017 #16
When I first viewed this, I immed. tweeted it to FBI & Schiff wordpix Apr 2017 #17
Alex Jones is a threat to humanity mdbl Apr 2017 #26
If only they would arrest and jail just one of the defaming assholes this kind of stuff would stop. nikibatts Apr 2017 #27
He needs to be arrested but threats will escalate. gordianot Apr 2017 #28
That's right, Alex Ahpook Apr 2017 #29
Good. Arrest the jerk. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #31
Jones is so unhinged, you'd think he's made death threats before? Kimchijeon Apr 2017 #41
Lock his arse up! Catherine Vincent Apr 2017 #42
Too bad dude. DK504 Apr 2017 #44
"Fill your hand?!!" Demoiselle Apr 2017 #47
The families of Sandy Hook deserve to see that asshole rot behind bars. Initech Apr 2017 #48
1.Yell fire in crowded room (no fire) 2. threaten someon 3. libel.. Stuart G Apr 2017 #49
No worries - just a simple misunderstanding, folks! It was all in good fun - "performance art", see? Leghorn21 Apr 2017 #51

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
3. I think Adam Shiff should file charges against this raving lunatic
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

put a stop to this right wing nonsense and the

Kingofalldems

(38,419 posts)
12. I wouldn't think he would have to file charges--
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:04 PM
Apr 2017

the Secret Service or whoever has jurisdiction should be required to act on the threat.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. First Bill-o
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017

then his co-conspirators? Jones, Breitbart, Drudge, Red State and the rest of the gang of thugs live on donations from Koch affliated "political charities"?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
22. but, but, IRS can't investigate b/c they're "conservative charities"
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:15 PM
Apr 2017

and the Republics will scream about being picked on. Fuckers

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
43. We are way past IRS involvement
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:19 PM
Apr 2017

Alex Jones essentially challenged Rep. Schiff to a duel. This is FBI territory.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
6. There is something really unhinged
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

about Alex Jones. With some of them, it is just an act for their audience, but I saw him on Piers Morgan's show a few years ago and he looked like he was going to explode.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
21. Jones-Bannon-Trump Trio. Some of Jones' ideas re: 9-11
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:12 PM
Apr 2017

were plausible at the time, when he was a lot quieter and more rational.

Now though, he's a few heartbeats away from heart attack or blood clot to the brain/paralysis/dementia. Whatever his problem, prob. some combination of drugs, alcohol, bad food, no exercise, never seeing sunlight...the guy's a ticking time bomb ready to explode, I agree.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
25. You know
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:25 PM
Apr 2017

I remember him after 9/11 and he did come across as much more rational and measured. Now he is a raving maniac. I think you're right - drugs, alcohol, etc. could play a part. He looks like he needs serious medical help.

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
33. I've actually met him.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:06 PM
Apr 2017

I don't think its drugs or alcohol. I am not a psychiatrist, but I would guess his mental state has become even worse, and he was bat shit crazy fifteen years ago. Most of the stations carrying him were fed from a small network in the back of a gold brokerage at the time. The theory of radio is that you want crazy people listening because its easier to sell them things like "Miracle Soap".

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
34. I have known some
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:14 PM
Apr 2017

"bat shit crazy" people in my life, and they often do get worse over time. Maybe spouting all that poison starts to poison one's own mind.

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
37. I think they tend to hang only with other batshit crazy people, too.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:27 AM
Apr 2017

of course that describes the Republican party.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
39. Okay
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:00 AM
Apr 2017

Yes, that makes sense. Be careful the company you keep. Also all the bat shit crazy crap he was throwing out there, came back to him 10 fold.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
38. watch this LOL- Jones is a big douchebag loser
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:33 AM
Apr 2017

Here is the clip in question. I've seen other videos where he is doing a counter protest and one guy pushes him back and he gets knocked down. You would think badass Jones would fight right? No, he is a big fucking puss, he started crying to the cops LOOK LOOK he ASSAULTED ME arrest him crying like a little baby. I should go down to Austin myself and get in his face LOL


PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
40. What a great way to start the morning
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:07 AM
Apr 2017

What's really scary are the people who listen to this crap every day.

Leith

(7,807 posts)
9. Alex Jones Already Instigated Pizzagate
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:40 PM
Apr 2017

When are these screaming reichwing nutjobs going to realize that there are consequences to the crap they spew all the time?

Make Jones accountable for what he says.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
20. They get no consequences b/c they're protected by other R's,
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:06 PM
Apr 2017

esp. now that Pres. O is gone So many laws are being broken and TREASON going down, everyone is overwhelmed.

roscoeroscoe

(1,369 posts)
10. Reminds​me of Homeland
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:59 PM
Apr 2017

Anyone else blown away by this season's story line!?

Fake news! On line bots! Deep state working to control a progressive President!?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
13. When will anyone enforce the damned law?
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:23 PM
Apr 2017

When someone threatens a person, s/he is picked up, taken to a police precinct, interrogated and assessed as to potential threat s/he poses to the public. In this guy's case, he's inciting his freakazoid listeners to violence.

We're all sick and tired of No Consequences Republicans.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
30. That's my question!
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:57 PM
Apr 2017

It's one thing to go "AWWWW! Did you see what he just did?" It's another to get some action towards not letting it happen again. Trump may STILL be Right in that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and NOT suffer any consequences.

tsuukiyomi

(20 posts)
50. You know, since
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:58 PM
Apr 2017

the assumed thing about males in prison is that the omegas and betas who don't stand their ground will get raped.

Rather hypocritical when women have to worry about that day by day outside of prison.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. I hope he's arrested. The REAL threat is incitement to violence.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:35 PM
Apr 2017

Some wacko out there will hear Jones and take that as an order to act on Jones' words.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
18. I tweeted FBI yesterday that Jones is inciting for just that reason
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:02 PM
Apr 2017

also tweet Austin TX police, where Jones' studio is located

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
17. When I first viewed this, I immed. tweeted it to FBI & Schiff
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:01 PM
Apr 2017

I said it sounded like a direct threat of and incitement to violence (if his unhinged followers think Jones' threats are good ideas). Also said Jones appears mentally unstable and does he own a gun?

Schiff needs protection a helluva lot more than Trump and his family, with crazy guys like Jones on the airwaves.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
28. He needs to be arrested but threats will escalate.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:52 PM
Apr 2017

I expect snappy uniforms with validation in numbers then it will be Fascism for real.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
29. That's right, Alex
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:57 PM
Apr 2017

If you don't like it, murder it.

You are a fucking psychopath along with every listener you have.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
41. Jones is so unhinged, you'd think he's made death threats before?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:11 AM
Apr 2017

He always seems to get all red, frothy and rage-babbling. Not sure if its all just an act but it seems odd that this would be the first time he's made a threat to a public figure, or wished harm/violence on anyone. Seems likely he's wished harm on many an elected/public official in the past? It would be nice if he'd get punished if he's in fact making death threats. Not acceptable.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
44. Too bad dude.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:26 PM
Apr 2017

Your a grown ass man. Don't blame it on caught up in the moment and uttered something in the heat of the rant.

Lock his ass up.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
47. "Fill your hand?!!"
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:55 PM
Apr 2017

Cheesh. Not only does this absurd person watch too many Westerns, he watches too many BAD Westerns.

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
49. 1.Yell fire in crowded room (no fire) 2. threaten someon 3. libel..
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:27 PM
Apr 2017

Courts have ruled historically, those are three exceptions to "free speech"......

Alex has broken number 2, and that is against the law and if prosecuted, and the tape is played that it sounds like a legitimate threat, and if a jury agrees..(which it likely will)...Alex will get jail time..You cannot threaten to hurt or kill someone......it is against the law...............OH...I got to add this.............


If I know about this, you had better believe that the local prosecutor knows about this.......He is currently deciding if he wants to charge and prosecute the asshole. If he doesn't, he is not doing his job..

It would be as if a policeman sees a hold up man walk in a bank, with a mask, and the policeman follows and sees the man rob the bank. The policeman watches, and does nothing, does not call for more police, and as the robber gets away, does not take down the license number of the car...Local prosecutor will charge him if he is honest..................

In relation to the OP...threatening to hurt or kill someone.........is a felony

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
51. No worries - just a simple misunderstanding, folks! It was all in good fun - "performance art", see?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:12 PM
Apr 2017

Okay, so it turns out, Alex Jones' felonious threats to Rep. Adam Schiff were "tongue in cheek"
and "performance art":

In an article posted April 5, Newsweek quoted an attorney who claimed Jones’ comments may constitute a felony. Jones subsequently posted a video attempting to clarify his remarks, claiming he’s actually a leading proponent of nonviolence like Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.:

ALEX JONES: We’re going to lose this fight for America if we get violent. I’m one of the biggest proponents of nonviolence, and Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King. Everybody knows that.

Jones later claimed that his anti-Schiff remarks were “clearly tongue-in-cheek and basically art performance, as I do in my rants, which I admit I do, as a form of art. And they turn that into a premeditated plan that I’m trying to influence that chicken neck Schiff, who has made up all this crap about Trump and Russians, and has been caught lying. Saying that Rice wasn’t spying. This guy is a loser. When I say, ‘I’m going to kick your ass,’ it’s the infowar. I say every day we’re going to destroy you with the truth.”

snip

ALEX JONES: I just want to be clear: I mean no violence against Mr. Schiff. I know the guy's a liar. I know that he is an attack dog of the Democrats. I know that he's really trying to hurt this country so I dislike him, but I wish no harm on him or his wife or his children or anybody else -- so this is not a retraction, this is a clarification. Yes, I don't want violence. You guys are openly calling for it everywhere so I think then you should ask yourselves what hypocrite planet you woke up on when I say 1/10th of what you said clearly jesting and then you take it as serious and call for my incarceration for six years in federal prison.

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/04/06/alex-jones-claims-his-violent-adam-schiff-remarks-were-just-tongue-cheek-and-art-performance/215939


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