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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:31 PM Apr 2017

RUSSIA SENDS WARSHIPS TOWARD U.S. NAVY AFTER SYRIA BOMBING

Source: Newsweek

Russia deployed its most advanced Black Sea frigate Friday into the eastern Mediterranean, where U.S. Navy destroyers had launched an airstrike earlier that day against the Moscow-backed Syrian military.

As Russian leadership condemned the U.S.' first intentional attack on the military of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since the country's six-year conflict began, Russia's Admiral Grigorovich frigate reportedly left its port of Sevastopol, Crimea, and headed toward the U.S. destroyers USS Porter and USS Ross. The vessels had launched a barrage of 59 Tomahawk missiles early Friday morning against Syria's Shayrat Airfield, which Washington alleged was the origin of a suspected chemical attack on the Syrian rebel-held city of Idlib. Moscow argued the toxic discharge was the result of a Syrian airstrike on a chemical weapons facility used by rebels and has said it would take "a complex of measures" to protect Syrian troops from further U.S. action.

Russia's 4,000-ton warship came equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles, one of Moscow's latest and most deadly high-tech projectiles, and was headed to dock in the Syrian city of Tartus, according to Russia's official TASS News Agency. The ship's movement was also confirmed by Turkish ship spotter Yoruk Isik, who told the U.S. Naval Institute's news agency that the ship had crossed the Bosphorus Strait only nine days after docking from a previous Mediterranean voyage.

The Admiral Grigorovich frigate was involved in joint naval drills conducted Wednesday between Russia and Turkey. Russia's Black Sea Fleet and the Turkish navy trained for both defense and rescue operations in a rare sign of recent cooperation between Moscow and Ankara, which have supported opposing alliances in Europe and the Middle East. Turkey, a member of NATO, has supported insurgent groups in Syria opposed to Assad.

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Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/russia-warships-us-navy-syria-bomb-580721



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RUSSIA SENDS WARSHIPS TOWARD U.S. NAVY AFTER SYRIA BOMBING (Original Post) jpak Apr 2017 OP
Do you think trump bit off more than he could chew? caroldansen Apr 2017 #1
Time will tell jpak Apr 2017 #2
By becoming president? Hell yes. christx30 Apr 2017 #20
The puppet master is putin on a pretty good show Marthe48 Apr 2017 #3
Yes, absolutely! Skid Rogue Apr 2017 #29
WWIII, anyone? YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #4
Hopefully it will be no worse than this LeftInTX Apr 2017 #8
We are being so played Lulu KC Apr 2017 #5
Yes. Like an actor yelling in the audience, to divert our attention from the stage. C Moon Apr 2017 #7
I couldn't agree more, MSM playing right into it. dewsgirl Apr 2017 #10
Agreed - it's all for show, amounts to nothing FakeNoose Apr 2017 #42
So what? LittleBlue Apr 2017 #6
That "Soviet era junk" still has the potential to kill millions Wednesdays Apr 2017 #15
And its own crew... paleotn Apr 2017 #22
War is two things bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #9
Does war increase the demand for oil or increase the supply? DorothyG Apr 2017 #11
It increases the power of the shrinking number of oil companies. YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #12
What types of oil companies decrease in numbers? Which ones have been absorbed by others in recent DorothyG Apr 2017 #26
Both expand bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #13
Why? Certainly the machinery of war needs more petroleum DorothyG Apr 2017 #25
Both because both bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #35
Russia IS an oil company, practically jberryhill Apr 2017 #32
Putin will have to release that Trump sex tape eventually. Crowman2009 Apr 2017 #14
Ships or ship? janx Apr 2017 #16
So...it was involved in some drills in Turkey janx Apr 2017 #17
This is exactly what Agent Orange wants.. red dog 1 Apr 2017 #18
When responsible people are in charge, saber rattling is not so scary. Jim__ Apr 2017 #19
I like this pic better... paleotn Apr 2017 #21
Which ship is that an image of? DorothyG Apr 2017 #28
Looks a lot like ... mallard Apr 2017 #33
A single frigate against at least two AEGIS destroyers? Baclava Apr 2017 #23
Yeah, I doubt the US Navy will be intimidated. backscatter712 Apr 2017 #34
Frigate: Another term for Destroyer Escort, about half the tonnage of a Destroyer Baclava Apr 2017 #37
When will Putin realize he's installed an insane, unpredictable madman as head of the US? Kablooie Apr 2017 #24
Vibes that this is nothing but male plumage-off. That it becomes nothing applegrove Apr 2017 #27
And for the next bit of stagecraft Corgigal Apr 2017 #30
Won't Trump be surprised to learn the Russians are in Crimea jberryhill Apr 2017 #31
It's just a pro forma response. More Kabuki theater. GliderGuider Apr 2017 #36
Fake Show of Force, meet Fake Show of Force 6000eliot Apr 2017 #38
This . NT jeanmarc Apr 2017 #39
this is heaven05 Apr 2017 #40
Not a chance tcbrola Apr 2017 #41
More or less fake news. lark Apr 2017 #43

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. By becoming president? Hell yes.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 08:05 PM
Apr 2017

By attacking Syria? Definitely. I wouldn't trust Trump to be able to chew anything more than a McNugget.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
3. The puppet master is putin on a pretty good show
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:38 PM
Apr 2017

and the obedient puppet is doing a fine job pretending he's in charge. I wonder how many people will die because of these two?

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
29. Yes, absolutely!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 10:01 PM
Apr 2017

It seems a very opportune time to have a "show down" with Putin. At best, Trump is afraid of being impeached and is distancing himself from Putin. At worst, it's simply bread and circus, orchestrated by Putin, to coverup treason.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
7. Yes. Like an actor yelling in the audience, to divert our attention from the stage.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:57 PM
Apr 2017

Any coincidence we're so close to nailing the traitors?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
10. I couldn't agree more, MSM playing right into it.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:59 PM
Apr 2017

If I hear CNN praise him one more time, I swear I'm gonna lose it. He's still an idiot, and will prove it again and again. Smoke and mirrors to take the heat of Russia, is likely all this is.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. So what?
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:56 PM
Apr 2017

Does Putin think one ship is going to intimidate our armada of destroyers? Shit, we haven't even dusted off our aircraft carrier groups yet. Their navy is full of Soviet era junk. Here is their smoking tub of an aircraft carrier



It's more a hazard to the environment than a threat to our navy.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
12. It increases the power of the shrinking number of oil companies.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

Along with that of defense contractors and private mercenaries, of course.

DorothyG

(95 posts)
26. What types of oil companies decrease in numbers? Which ones have been absorbed by others in recent
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:57 PM
Apr 2017

years as a result of war? I'm just trying to understand the drivers of these things...

DorothyG

(95 posts)
25. Why? Certainly the machinery of war needs more petroleum
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:56 PM
Apr 2017

but I would expect it to be dwarfed by the reduced peacetime usage. Recent wars haven't increased the supply - Saddam was happy to sell all the oil we wanted. Afghanistan hasn't increased the worlds supply. Would Canada not be a better invasion choice if oil were the issue?

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
35. Both because both
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 08:46 AM
Apr 2017

military and civilian economies require it. Americans would not tolerate
WWII style rationing, or even 70s style shortages. So just add military
consumption and raise the price.

Beware trolls trying to disrupt hard reality for their own agenda.

janx

(24,128 posts)
17. So...it was involved in some drills in Turkey
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:31 PM
Apr 2017

and is on its way to dock in Tartus. I wonder if it has docked there before.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
18. This is exactly what Agent Orange wants..
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:51 PM
Apr 2017

..now he can ask Congress for even more billions for defense, which is exactly what the Military Industrial Complex wants! (They are the REAL "puppet masters&quot

Greg Palast was right...It wasn't an election, it was a COUP!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512618383

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
19. When responsible people are in charge, saber rattling is not so scary.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:58 PM
Apr 2017

We never know what Trump will do. He has absolutely no experience at statecraft and is most concerned about maintaining a macho image. The death of a few million peasants is of no real concern to him.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
23. A single frigate against at least two AEGIS destroyers?
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 08:53 PM
Apr 2017

Russia Sends Frigate to Mediterranean Following U.S. Retaliation Strike; U.S. Destroyers Remain On Station

As for the U.S., a Navy official on Friday told USNI News that destroyers USS Porter (DDG-78) and USS Ross (DDG-71) would continue a presence mission in the Eastern Mediterranean.

The ships are part of a quartet of U.S. destroyers that are forward deployed to Rota, Spain to primarily conduct ballistic missile defense operations in protection of Western Europe. However, the proximity of the ships to Syria and the ease of rearming them following Thursday’s strike made Ross and Porter ideal for the mission, the official said.

https://news.usni.org/2017/04/07/russia-sends-frigate-mediterranean-following-u-s-retaliation-strike-u-s-destroyers-remain-station

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Woman commands one of the Navy ships that fired missiles into Syria

The Department of Defense identified the USS Porter and the USS Ross as the two US Navy destroyers that fired Tomahawk cruise missiles into Syria on Wednesday in retaliation for the Assad regime's use of nerve agents on its own people.

Commander Andria Slough, a 1998 graduate of the US Naval Academy, is the captain of the Porter. Her counterpart on the USS Ross is Commander Russell Caldwell, according to the web pages for both ships.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/the-observation-post/article/Woman-commands-one-of-the-Navy-ships-that-fired-11056922.php


USS Porter



USS Ross

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
34. Yeah, I doubt the US Navy will be intimidated.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:31 AM
Apr 2017

The US Navy is more powerful than all the other navies in the world, combined.

We have 12 Nimitz-sized aircraft carriers. Russia has one smaller carrier.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
37. Frigate: Another term for Destroyer Escort, about half the tonnage of a Destroyer
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:07 PM
Apr 2017

Frigates these days weigh anything from 2000 - 5000 tons, Destroyers are in the range of 5000 - 8000 and Cruisers normally 8000 tons and above.

Arms, armor and capabilities go up with class.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
24. When will Putin realize he's installed an insane, unpredictable madman as head of the US?
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:35 PM
Apr 2017

And he'd better be careful or we will all be trying to survive a primitive nuclear winter for the rest of our lives.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
30. And for the next bit of stagecraft
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 10:01 PM
Apr 2017

Is America having discussions over the bombings in Syria. The deal will include lifting sanctions on Russia, Russia will give us something we don't need. All better. Russia will claim no more chemical weapons to be used in Syria cause they will....stagecraft more here.

I would guess by early next week.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
36. It's just a pro forma response. More Kabuki theater.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:20 AM
Apr 2017

Makes it look like there is some actual hostility between the two countries. There isn't, it's just a shadow-play.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
40. this is
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:02 PM
Apr 2017

putin-trumpchump-assad theater. NOTHING will happen between Russia and ameriKKKa for at least the next four years unless putin turns on his boy-potus puppet which is highly probable.

tcbrola

(16 posts)
41. Not a chance
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:55 PM
Apr 2017

The Admiral Grigorovich FFG wouldn't last long in SSN-infested waters of the Med...There's probably one under her now with Mk.48s and Sub Harpoons in her tubes.

lark

(23,091 posts)
43. More or less fake news.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:04 PM
Apr 2017

Russia rotates it's ships off Syria and it was time for the other one to come home, so a new ship is replacing it, one already in the area. Now is the reason they are sending their best ship there now because of yesterday, maybe, but I doubt it unless Pootie and drumpf planned this way in advance. Russia knew about this, we limited the strikes to one airfield only, we didn't bomb the runways so Assad and Pootie can still use them. drumpf owns stock in Tomahawks, and this was all 1 big show to distract us from the collusion and treason and as always to enrich the orange assface. That's why he took the job, he certainly cares nothing at all, not even the slightest bit about us or anyone other than himself.

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