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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:14 PM

Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election - documents

Source: Reuters

A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine votersí faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies , after the election.

The institute is run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putinís office.

The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-election-exclusive-idUSKBN17L2N3?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

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Reply Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election - documents (Original post)
bathroommonkey76 Apr 19 OP
Control-Z Apr 19 #1
Igel Apr 19 #18
Control-Z Apr 19 #23
.99center Apr 19 #25
Sunlei Apr 20 #36
wishstar Apr 19 #2
yardwork Apr 19 #8
ehrnst Apr 19 #16
Achilleaze Apr 19 #3
ehrnst Apr 19 #17
Wednesdays Apr 19 #21
volstork Apr 19 #24
pecosbob Apr 19 #30
vkkv Apr 19 #4
shraby Apr 19 #5
Blue_Tires Apr 19 #6
shraby Apr 19 #7
yardwork Apr 19 #9
lark Apr 19 #10
Nwgirl503 Apr 19 #14
Igel Apr 19 #19
.99center Apr 19 #26
Sunlei Apr 20 #37
xor Apr 20 #32
Hekate Apr 19 #11
L. Coyote Apr 19 #12
Fast Walker 52 Apr 19 #13
ehrnst Apr 19 #15
Igel Apr 19 #20
Loubee Apr 19 #22
Kathy M Apr 19 #29
dalton99a Apr 19 #27
Kathy M Apr 19 #28
rockfordfile Apr 20 #33
FakeNoose Apr 20 #39
pecosbob Apr 19 #31
rockfordfile Apr 20 #34
Sunlei Apr 20 #35
Sunlei Apr 20 #38

Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:32 PM

1. Who was the first to say that voter fraud

was the only possible way the maggot could lose? The MAGGOT said it first, iirc.


A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral systemís legitimacy and damage Clintonís reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:37 PM

18. Perspective.

"Voter fraud" was a common claim for why anybody but the "correct" candidate could win.

The dividing line between who claimed this is not just reality/irrealis but measured/immoderate in speech. Lots of outspoken used it. HRC didn't, I'm unaware that BS used it. She's both reality-biased and measured. BS is mostly reality-based. TTrump has never been measured in his speech. Nor esp. reality-based.

It's been a recurring theme here at least since 2004.

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Response to Igel (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:05 PM

23. All true

but the maggot started making it part of his stump speech late in the campaign as what appeared to be the excuse he would use when he lost. I don't ever recall any nominee using the excuse before they lost. It's possible my memory isn't serving me well.

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Response to Igel (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:18 PM

25. Has a candidate in the G.E. ever worked as hard as Trump

To undermine Americas election system? I'm sure he didn't intend to harm our country as he repeated the claim numerous times while being reminded the harm his unmeasured claims were causing to our country. It was measured and he was directed by Putin IMO.

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Response to .99center (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:13 PM

36. oh BS trumps just an EASY patsy for the Republican Party. They knew his background of corrupt

crap, money laundering in Russia would keep his mouth shut, let the Republican party tell him what to do, approve any appointment's 'suggested'. Manafort drops from the sky into trump campaign, lists of "generals" who support trump campaign drop from the fucking sky into trumps campaign.

Republican party colluded with Russia for hacked files, for everything they could get about DNC, lists of voters, probably Sanders lists of supporters as well. Republicans collected the 'stolen goods' off WikiLeaks.

Republicans directed their easy/peasie patsyman trump and they still do though their medias like fox & f(R)iends.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:35 PM

2. Here are some more excerpts:

"Four of the officials said the approach outlined in the June strategy paper was a broadening of an effort the Putin administration launched in March 2016. That month the Kremlin instructed state-backed media outlets, including international platforms Russia Today and Sputnik news agency, to start producing positive reports on Trumpís quest for the U.S. presidency, the officials said.

Russia Today and Sputnik published anti-Clinton stories while pro-Kremlin bloggers prepared a Twitter campaign calling into question the fairness of an anticipated Clinton victory, according to a report by U.S. intelligence agencies on Russian interference in the election made public in January.

Neither of the Russian institute documents mentioned the release of hacked Democratic Party emails to interfere with the U.S. election, according to four of the officials. The officials said the hacking was a covert intelligence operation run separately out of the Kremlin.

The overt propaganda and covert hacking efforts reinforced each other, according to the officials. Both Russia Today and Sputnik heavily promoted the release of the hacked Democratic Party emails, which often contained embarrassing details."


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Response to wishstar (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:15 PM

8. We saw all that crap from Russia Today here on DU.

We watched this unfold.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:06 PM

16. Oh, yeah.... (nt)

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:36 PM

3. Pooty Poot is making WAR on America. And republicans are aiding & abetting.

Even Dick Cheney says russia is engaging in Acts of War against America with this vile shit. But the latter day republicans just smirk, give a shiteaten grin, lie, and do nothing to protect America or Americans.

Republicans are FAILING treasonously in their primary responsibility to the United States of America and the citizens thereof.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:26 PM

17. Not just Republicans. (nt)

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:51 PM

21. Elaborate, please.

nt

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:09 PM

24. It's because they are getting paid.

I'll bet that Russia has kompromat on all of the top congressmen. They are all traitors.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:11 PM

30. If Cheney was getting a slice of Rosneft he'd be singing a different tune

Republicans only thought is to plunder whererever and whenever they can.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:54 PM

4. Jeeezzuzzz ! RePigLickins aren't going to do a thing about it, either.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:55 PM

5. If Reuters has it, so does the intel community. I'd call it proof that the election was

stolen by trump and company which includes Russia.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:04 PM

6. Can't wait to hear Greenwald's spin on this

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:06 PM

7. I'd take Reuters over Greenwald any day of the week. I NEVER give Greenwald a minute

of my time.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:16 PM

9. More whining and sobbing about how we're all so mean.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:27 PM

10. So WTF isn't anything being done?

Fry his ass already! Or have the Russians subverted the whole system, including FBI and we are no longer the United States of America, just haven't noticed the name change yet?

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Response to lark (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:54 PM

14. I'm gonna be so pissed if I have to change all my letterhead and business cards

I just got a bunch printed!!!

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Response to lark (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:43 PM

19. About what?

The horrible way that Americans have taken to distrusting election results and election financing?

The way Russians agents made an issue of emails, etc., to push votes away from HRC? Because she was the real target among candidates. It would have helped BS and all(R) for a while. It went proTrump when it was clearly him vs. HRC.

Problem is that the Russian effort gave us and others stories many liked. We lapped it up. And that's not the russians' fault.

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Response to Igel (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:25 PM

26. Are you attempting to normalize the collusion between Trump and Putin?

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Response to .99center (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:52 PM

37. collusion between Republican party and putins government run country-destabilizing industry.

worked really well on 1)Crimea, 2)Turkey and 3)'Asaads Syria', 4)Ukraine and the 5) EU.

Poland would be next if that country wasn't so broken and poor from WW2.

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Response to lark (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:29 AM

32. What can be done? I mean, obviously we can attempt to make it more

difficult to get private emails and stuff, but what can be done to prevent such people from engaging in influence operations? If we can produce concrete evidence that Trump and his folks colluded with the Russians, then that is something we can deal with. However, we keep hearing of big breaks coming but it seems like it's either not as concrete as stated or it's being suppressed. If the latter is the case, then someone needs to come forward to expose. But even if that happened I would be skeptical, as any sort of turmoil no matter where it comes from is beneficial to other governments. Then if there is a so-called "smoking gun" that everyone runs with but that turns out to be false, then that works in Trump's favor. I'm rambling.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:27 PM

11. Bookmark

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:33 PM

12. Try to imagine what is going on covertly right now, cyber wise and black ops stuff.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:46 PM

13. who'd a thunk it?

 

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:06 PM

15. BUT HER EMAILS!!!! GOLDMAN SACHS!!!!!

Scary Russian stuff is just redbaiting....

She was FLAWED...

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:49 PM

20. She had a public record.

If the media kept hitting on Wright, "typical white person," and other things Obama's scanty record offered even he'd have had more problems. As it was, the media was nervous and biased at the same time.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:59 PM

22. "Exclusive" Reuters?

Don't you mean "Catching up with Maddow"?

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Response to Loubee (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:11 PM

29. Yeah I bought into the Russa thing to for a bit

may want to step back and reexamine

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:59 PM

27. Kick.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:09 PM

28. Sorry not buying article ....

There is something maybe more off .......... It does not pass my legit test . For example the supposed document talking of vter fraud in Oct , well Trump was talking about that a few months prior

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Response to Kathy M (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:42 AM

33. The article is true.

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Response to Kathy M (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:13 PM

39. Kathy M - Trump was talking about 2 different things during the campaign

He talked all year about "voter fraud" meaning that some people would be voting who are perhaps registered incorrectly or illegally. The implication was that only Democrats would do that, either because they weren't citizens or they didn't/couldn't show a proper ID.

In October during one of the debates with Hillary (it might have been the 3rd debate) Trump said that if Hillary wins the election, it's proof that the election was rigged. That's the first time I ever remember him saying anything like that. It was repeated over and over like a mantra. Accusing Hillary of cheating and rigging the election, and it came directly from the Russians who were telling him what to do. We're reading this all now on the Steele report.

"Voter fraud" came early. "Rigged election" came in October and they beat it to death until the election.
It's exactly how it happened.


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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:23 PM

31. I'm not pissed at the Russians anymore...just sayin'

This was always one of the few types of things at which the old Soviets were actually pretty good. Now that I've spent a couple of months deliberating I've come to see it as a lesson we perhaps needed to learn. I read a comment from Noam Chomsky that said the world was laughing at us...not because we elected a snake-oil salesman as President, but because we got a taste of our own medicine.

This is the type of thing our government does to other nations all the time...using somewhat different methods, perhaps, but nonetheless, we interfere with other nations' political processes all the time. Don't tell me it's about anything other than the money, as we invariably intercede on behalf of corporate interest. America tends to make everyone else's business their business. Our government's (both parties included) clear intent is to make the world safe for Exxon and Colonel Sanders...to ensure that corporations have the unobstructed right to exploit anyone and everyone any where they wish.

Take the money out of politics or all successful political parties will invariably institutionalize the legal graft.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:43 AM

34. Essentially the Russians attacked our country with help from Trump.

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:57 PM

35. Republican party colluded with Russia to undermine OUR COUNTRIES DEMOCRACY.

ALL of them, where/when are the fucking criminal charges!!?

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Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:58 PM

38. how do "three current and four former U.S. officials" pass classified document" to reuters? & why?

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