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Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:41 PM

Two-thirds of Americans support gun limits in public places study

Source: Guardian


At least 64% of those surveyed do not support carrying guns in places such as schools and college campuses, study finds as states move to ease restrictions

Alex Yablon, the Trace
Thursday 20 April 2017 16.00 EDT


Two-thirds of Americans believe that guns should be restricted in many public places, according to a study published on Thursday.

The study, by a group of leading public health researchers, found that at least 64% of those surveyed did not support carrying guns on college campuses, in places of worship, government buildings, schools, bars or sports stadiums. Even among gun owners, a majority did not approve of guns in bars or in schools. The survey published in the American Journal of Public Health comes as a number of states have passed laws to expand where guns can be carried in public.

“That’s an important finding because it goes against the general trend of what lawmakers are doing,” said Julia Wolfson, a professor of public health at the University of Michigan and one of the study’s co-authors.

Already in 2017, Arkansas has passed a bill allowing guns on college campuses, in government buildings, and in bars. Georgia’s governor, Nathan Deal, is considering a proposal that would allow concealed weapons at colleges. And state legislators in New Hampshire, North Dakota, and Iowa have passed so-called constitutional carry bills, eliminating permitting requirements for carrying concealed weapons.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/20/gun-control-restrictions-schools-campuses-churches-stadiums

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:52 PM

1. Next, Alabama.

Alabama Senate passes bill to eliminate pistol permit requirement

The Alabama Senate, divided sharply along party lines, has passed a bill eliminating the requirement for a permit from a county sheriff to carry a concealed handgun.

The Senate passed the bill by Sen. Gerald Allen, R-Tuscaloosa, after voting to cut off debate.

The bill passed by a vote of 25-8, with all eight Democrats in the Senate voting against it. It moves to the House of Representatives.

Allen said people should not have to buy a pistol permit to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

"It's unthinkable that you have to pay a fee for a constitutional right. That's really the heart of the whole issue," Allen said.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 11:14 PM

2. We should definitely predicate limiting of rights based on public opinion, right?

Poor Wintermute, Azreal, and Kellerman- they just can't understand why public opinion is going opposite the direction they want! It's a mystery, wrapped in an enigma!

All rights should have polling attached. If it's not popular, the right shouldn't be protected! Amirite? Onerous voter ID laws? Popular! Protecting LGBTQ folks from discrimination? Not 50.1% popular, so hold your horses right there, buddy!



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Response to X_Digger (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 08:52 AM

5. Seems you're the only one who brought up that particular argument.

"We should definitely predicate limiting of rights based on public opinion, right?..."

Seems you're the only one who brought up that particular argument. No doubt, if no one is making the argument we want to counter, we'll simply pretend they're making it.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:29 PM

9. Apparently I'm the only one who read the actual article and study.

But please, continue to make assertions about the article and study based on an excerpt.

Free clue: try the 'conclusions' section of the study.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:56 AM

6. Yeah, because being told not to bring a gun to an elementary school sooooo infringes on your rights.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:05 AM

3. It doesn't matter what the people want.

It's all about what the NRA wants, and their dirty money reaches FAR into the halls of Congress, and the pockets of Congressmen. With the GOP in charge of everything.......we'll be seeing guns in bars, churches, stadiums, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court......you name it.
Americans and their love affair with guns. I don't understand it. It defies all logic.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:02 AM

4. It puts the lowest dregs in the country in charge wherever they swagger.

Sensible people of good will will go out of their way to avoid them, as they are a living threat to everyone who would otherwise condemn them for their arrogance, their hostility, their wish to dominate everyone, their wish to have the last word on every subject, to be the first in line, to get the only open parking spot, etc., etc., etc. at the expense of everyone else.

People will have to teach their children to bow and scrape to their belligerent, nasty children at school, to avoid having the parents take shots at them when their vicious brats want revenge for real or imagined slights, it will go one forever, until the world somehow rises up against them, one way or another, and start life all over, without them, as they sail away, on their melting icebergs.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

7. Who are these dregs you are referring to?

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:52 AM

8. Which people? The story is mostly talking about rules being passed in state legislatures, and the

results of a national poll. Should state politicians be more concerned with what people in their state think, or with what people in all the other states think?

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