'What?' Confused 911 caller outs NYPD spying in NJ

[dipsydoodle]

Source: Associated Press

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) -- It's an audiotape the New York Police Department hoped you would never hear.

A building superintendent at an apartment complex just off the Rutgers University campus called the New Brunswick Police 911 line in June 2009. He said his staff had been conducting a routine inspection and came across something suspicious.

"What's suspicious?" the dispatcher asked.

"Suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about - has no furniture except two beds, has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios."

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NYPD_INTELLIGENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-25-05-20-17

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Posted here because its AP's lead news which I therefore assume to be LBN.

[rfranklin]

1. Routine inspection? Who's spying on who?

Everybody's snooping in everybody else's business.

[JoeyT]

2. Almost all apartments have routine inspections.

It's to make sure that, among other things, you don't have garbage piled halfway up the walls breeding a roach colony that will infest everyone in the building.

[Trillo]

10. Curious the market hasn't lowered rents into negative costs for renters

who may incorrectly believe their rent money grants them privacy from snoopy neighbors.

This architect pretty much summed up your scenario:

[JoeyT]

22. Well yeah, except getting rid of an infestation is

the landlord's problem. If they allow it to come to that, it can cost thousands of dollars.

Changing batteries in smoke detectors and inspecting fire extinguishers are also the landlord's problem.

It's why I won't rent an apartment.

[obamanut2012]

13. They do that for smoke alarm batteries and HVAC filter changes

Not unusual. They let you know a day or two ahead of time (which is the law).

[xchrom]

3. Du rec. Nt

[SkatmanRoth]

4. The New York Police Department has been recruited by the CIA for domestic spying

Of course the secretary will disavow any knowledge of their actions.

[HiPointDem]

8. i think big city police -- nyc, la, chicago -- have been part of the federal intelligence network

for a very long time.

[Demeter]

5. Bloomberg's delusions amount to megalomania

The fish rots from the head on down.

[magical thyme]

6. unreal. muslins and libruls, the usual suspects.

"The NYPD has infiltrated and photographed Muslim businesses and mosques in New Jersey, monitored the Internet postings of Muslim college students across the Northeast and traveled as far away as New Orleans to infiltrate and build files on liberal advocacy groups."

[obamanut2012]

14. Rurgers isn't even all that close to NYC, is it?

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. the NEW York PD has been as far as...New Orleans????

Wow..when did jurisdiction become an a non-issue?

[HiPointDem]

7. "Bloomberg has defended the department's right to go anywhere without telling local police"

[DainBramaged]

9. You can't buy a big gulp or use a salt shaker at a restaurant in NY, but surveillance of Muslims,

coming right up hot and steamy.

[RC]

11. What the hell...??!

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police. And New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa has said he's seen no evidence that the NYPD's efforts violated his state's laws.

Anywhere in the country? On what legal grounds? On whose authority? And why would they think they even have that authority in the first place, no matter who 'authorized it'?
What about states laws of other states? To say nothing about Federal laws.

[Blue Meany]

19. The same principle that allows the US to go anywhere in the world

to pursue our foes: who is going to stop us?

[RC]

24. Oh yeah, I forgot.

Rules are for others, not us, U.S.

[dixiegrrrrl]

26. and yet, there are STILL people saying we are not a police state.

go figure.

[bemildred]

12. If they are not acting as police, what are they acting as?

Vigilantes? Are they being paid for not acting as police? If so, by whom?

[Poll_Blind]

15. You know, when I read the stroy I thought that was an ominous little detail.

Exactly- if they're not acting as police, just what are they acting as? I mean, they're using all those resources, stashing all those resources, and just doing...whatever they want.

Citizens are surely paying their salaries for that. But supposedly they're not police?

PB

[lostnote12]

16. It's Dog Eat Dog Out There!!!...It's Para-Military Time In America!!!...The Constitution makes for a

....nice placemat at the local eatery, a little mess, just wad it up and toss it away....set the table for another cosmetic experience!!!.....geeshh

[freshwest]

17. So, by this declaration, 'We're All New York Now,' is what they're saying here:

...New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police...

Okay, forget legal jurisdiction, state borders, etc. Now if there were tips that the people being surveilled were operating in NYC and commuting back to New Brunswick, I guess. I don't see anything weird about the apartment. Its just the location is out of place. It's a glimpse into the way these things are done.

The landlord made a good call, suspecting terrorists in that apartment, just getting a piece of ground to plan operations. Unlike a working person, who can't afford a place to hang out and plan trouble, not a contributing citizen to the community. Could have been a drug hangout, a crash pad, is what it was. What's ironic is that the police and criminal behavior and actions seem the same in one regard. Just on different teams.

All that very loose speculation aside, how much did this cost and where did the money come from? One of the powerful brokerage or banking concerns contributed a ton of money to the NYPD last year, as noted during Occupy events.

So what business is it of theirs? Is this slush fund money, that is not traced and is leading to a lot of rogue actions? Or does The King of New York, who claimed to have his own private army, believe he has the right to expand his territory?

This is almost amusing, except you realize that people are doing without, social services are being cut, and the land and authority to act as landlords is being sold off to foreign interests without a peep in the media. There is nothing in this that says we are doing business as usual stuff. I really want to know how much money this cost.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

18. How can anyone argue we are not living in a police state?

Bloomberg governs like a dictator. I can't believe the people of New York put up with his
dictates. Didn't he have the law change to allow him to "serve" an additional term? When this
term expires will the law be changed once again to accommodate his continued rule over
New York?

NYPD should stay in their own jurisdiction and quit using tax payer dollars for some private
war against American Muslims.

[MicaelS]

20. It's pretty obvious that Bloomberg is an Authoritarian..

If not and out and out Fascist. His end run around the election laws. All the crap he has the NYPD pull, the treatment of Occupy, Stop and Frisk, and so forth.

Yet when Bloomberg starts riding his Gun Prohibitionist horse plenty of Progressives clap like seals.

[JoeyT]

23. Don't forget banning foods we don't approve of.

We're supposed to clap like seals for that too. Can't have those goddamned poor peasants deciding what THEY want to eat.

[SoapBox]

21. Another mess made by the NYPD Militia

...YOUR tax dollars at work.

When exactly will Americans seriously (as in using their votes) to put a stop to crap by these screwball "police" departments?

Do we need police? Yes. Do we need them to keep us safe? Yes. Do we need police spying on and beating
average Ameicans? Uhhh, no.