America's first ever commercial scale tidal generator launching in Maine
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Source: Associated Press
EASTPORT What's being called the country's first commercial-scale tidal power generator is being launched in eastern Maine.
Ocean Renewable Power Co. 's first fully assembled turbine generator unit, 100 feet long, about 15 feet high and rigged with long, curved turbine foils, is to become operational in August and connected to the grid to deliver electricity to Maine consumers starting in October.
Ocean Renewable President Chris Sauer says Tuesday's dedication marks the end of eight years of hard work and fundraising. Sauer has called Eastport the "Kitty Hawk" of tidal energy.
U. S. Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine, who helped secure funding for the project, calls it "a monumental achievement."
U.S. Rep. Mike Michaud of Maine says the project will help increase the nation's energy independence.
Read more: http://www.sunjournal.com/news/maine/2012/07/24/tidal-generator-being-launched-maine/1227589?utm_source=Sun+Journal+List&utm_campaign=de641db84c-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email
A little good news for a change.
There is nothing more at the link.
A much better source with pictures here: http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/24/news/down-east/nations-first-underwater-tidal-turbine-dedicated-in-eastport/
(Thank you, petronius!)
MADem
(135,425 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)Or does nobody care?
democrat_patriot
(2,774 posts)My concern is any noise it gives off, hurting dolphins / whales.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Fish should have little to no problem with it.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)There's no point in sugarcoating it. There are videos of their system up on Youtube (skip to the 55 second mark):
These videos show how fast this things spins. Small fish aren't going to have any problem, but any sea life of any real size that wanders into this thing is going to get chummed. Nothing longer than a foot could survive it.
It's really the same issue as windmills. They unquestionably cause severe harm to the environment and wildlife in their immediate vicinity, but the real question is whether their benefits outweigh that cost and harm. EVERY form of power generation is going to do harm, so the question shouldn't be whether it harms wildlife, but whether it harms wildlife LESS than the other forms of power generation we're already using.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Larger fish/sea lions and such should have no problem avoiding it.
Any studies that show it is a problem for sea life in the field?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)It does not spin that fast either. Why not surround it with something?
yesphan
(1,587 posts)dmallind
(10,437 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I read a few years back about the research going into this. Potential impact on fish was definitely a concern.
pinto
(106,886 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)45 foot tides, or something like that.
Imagine the potential for generation.
ETA link to book where I read about it years ago: http://www.amazon.com/Waves-wind-weather-practical-navigator/dp/0679507531/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343231113&sr=1-4&keywords=wind+waves+and+weather
Also in that book, and fascinating:
Where the weather, air temps and water temps are below freezing, snow drifts can build up on the high seas.
The snow doesn't melt because of the high temps, and the salt water doesn't freeze because of the high salinity.
I would love to see big snow drifts on the high seas!
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I envisioned a whole town growing up around it, with the cheap electricity used to power everything from heaters to industrial plants (Eastport is also a deep-water port!) to buses.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And these people are invariably ignorant about the big picture around energy production.
On April 16th, 2009, I attended a hearing in SF with Ken Salazar, Barbara Boxer, Lynn Woolsey, and others.
The question related to whether or not to STUDY development of RENEWABLES on the OCS, (Outer Continental Shelf).
The ignorance and fear of Boxer and Woolsey was very apparent, and it made me sad.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8389088&mesg_id=8389098
A lot of fear and misinformation on OUR side really impedes progress.
K/R
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)Here's a picture of the thing:
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/24/news/down-east/nations-first-underwater-tidal-turbine-dedicated-in-eastport/
I'd be surprised if it was able to spin fast enough to 'chop' a fish - and fish are quite adept at dealing with surge and turbulence. If anything, that bottom support structure looks like it will provide some habitat (they ought to build in nooks for lobsters! )
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)I will edit my OP to add the link for convenience.
msongs
(67,381 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Maybe they are not permanent installations but can be raised to the surface for periodic maintenance.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Presumably, this thing was designed to withstand a saltwater environment, but it will require regular inspection, cleaning and repair.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)I think it's a pretty safe assumption that it was designed for a salt water environment. It would be much easier and safer if routine maintenance was done at the surface or on dry land, wouldn't it?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Any veteran know that preventive maintenance starts in situ, and any auto mechanic knows that much can be done before a car need to be jacked up.
A lot of other repairs can be done pluck-'n'-chuck style, in which a module is replaced with a hot swap, and the faulty unit is taken back to a depot or simply discarded/recycled.
If all maintenance had to be done on dry land, that'd be a poor design or a prototype.
Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)sorry
obxhead
(8,434 posts)I was ready to go pick one up for my next camping trip to the OBX.
It is great news though, K&R