Fourth and final Arkansas inmate Kenneth Williams executed
Source: The Guardian
Friday, April 28, 2017
Arkansas has carried out its fourth execution within a week, bringing to a troubling end the states controversial attempt to run a conveyor belt of death in an aggressive burst of killings unseen in the US for more than half a century.
Kenneth Williams was pronounced dead at 11.05pm local time at the end of a 13-minute lethal injection that resulted in disturbing signs of distress on the part of the prisoner.
At about 10.55pm he was reported by media witnesses to be breathing heavily and gasping. Then he went into at least 10 seconds of convulsions, in which his body was described as shaking, he lurched forwards quickly multiple times, and he moaned and groaned.
Two minutes later, a consciousness check was carried out by rubbing his sternum and lifting his eyelids. Members of the execution team were sufficiently certain that he was unconscious to at that point administer the second drug, vecuronium bromide, that paralyses the muscles and stops all movement.
But according to the witnesses, he was still breathing heavily and he issued a further moan and a groan at 10.59pm two minutes after the paralytic would have been given.
...Lawyers representing the death row inmates had warned repeatedly that were the prisoner not fully unconscious they could be subjected to excruciating pain as a result of the third drug potassium chloride that stops the heart, yet no-one would know because the second drug vecuronium bromide is a paralytic that makes the individual incapable of any movement.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/27/arkansas-executions-kenneth-williams-fourth-final
What I don't understand is that in the states that have legal assisted suicide, the patient is given an oral medication to take home. When they take the lethal medication, it is a peaceful transition to death with dignity at home on their own terms. No pain. No drama.
Hmmmm... has no one in the prison system heard of it? It is just barbaric this drug cocktail and step by step killing them, painfully.
Botany
(70,490 posts)... he killed 4 people. He taunted the family of one woman he killed @ his
trial where he was given a life sentence .... he then escaped prison and killed two
more people and in prison he admitted to killing another person too.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/04/arkansas_inmate_kenneth_willia.html
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Terminal patients use an oral medication to die at home peacefully.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Did I get THAT wrong, too?
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)burnbaby
(685 posts)enough to escape prison
christx30
(6,241 posts)innocent people. Now we know this guy will never escape and hurt anyone else.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Now we know this guy will never escape and hurt anyone else..."
Which itself would be a statistical improbability when contrasted against the much higher probability that someone completely different will do the exact same regardless of the existence of the death penalty.
We rationalize simple vengeance as actual justice, pat ourselves on the back for our self-defined righteous behavior while continuing to enable a thing which does zero practical good, and implicitly pretend anyone who disagrees with us lacks care for the innocent.
Self-validation, indeed.
Botany
(70,490 posts)* It costs too.... much more then keeping somebody in prison for life
* it takes too long and the victim's family and friends are kept in limbo because they
don't get closure and the person that is killed is not the same as the person who committed
the crimes.
* The legal help that the accused gets in some cases isn't the best.
* people have been found innocent who were on death row
But with all that being said 20 + years ago I lost a friend to rapist w/a gun so I have
very limited good will to murderers and rapists.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Democrats are roughly split on the issue. Just as importantly, the independents that we're trying to get to vote Democratic are closer to 60/40 split in favor.
It is, however, useful to note that support has been declining for decades whether D/I/R
former9thward
(31,981 posts)But H. Clinton supported it especially at the federal level.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)most of the people on death row. Most of them should never experience freedom again.
However, that 3 drug cocktail idea is barbaric and the doctor who came up with it should lose his license, along with the doctor who thought Versed was an appropriate part of it. It's not. It's a short acting drug and too many people have regained consciousness in time to suffer horribly.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)But they should be able to choose it.
mvd
(65,173 posts)The courts really dropped the ball here. The rush to execute was more important than granting the time for each inmate to prepare their cases. I see Gorsuch is already falling in line. Wish we also filibustered Alito. And it sounds like there was unacceptable suffering. Even with a guillotine, there is a chance of something going wrong - the blade not falling right and leading to a Nearly Headless Nick scenerio. Plus, no governor would allow a guillotine or even public hanging. We went in the wrong direction in Arkansas, and hope it's just a blip after a death penalty decline.
7962
(11,841 posts)There was never any question of guilt. Case closed.
The "mentally challenged" ploy is always the last effort.
mvd
(65,173 posts)I will never get pro-death penalty arguments. For me, the case is closed alright - no death penalty.
7962
(11,841 posts)just because they scheduled them all in one week really means nothing
Also for those defending them. And as I said, I consider no execution overdue. They should never occur.
7962
(11,841 posts)But there were YEARS for the defense. And when the defense isnt arguing innocence, its a bit lame to me anyway
mvd
(65,173 posts)They also admitted they did them that way because their execution drug was running out. And 8 would have been unprecedented. I understand your point also - we just see it from different perspectives.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Have no death penalty.
7962
(11,841 posts)Even taking guns out of the equation, how many horrible crimes are committed in these other civilized countries compared to ours?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)Which is just one of multiple justifications for the death penalty that fails to carry any sort of merit.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)But that is a poor argument in my view anyway. I don't care if it deters or doesn't. The DP should be used to permanently remove the worst of the worst from society. They have forfeited their right to live among other humans.
George II
(67,782 posts)FBaggins
(26,727 posts)The difference in that case is that the individual wants it to happen. Imagine the visuals as they try to force the pills down someone's throat.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Eugene
(61,872 posts)Source: Reuters
Coughing, convulsing and calls for probe after Arkansas execution
By Jon Herskovitz
A lawyer for an executed Arkansas death row inmate asked the state on Friday to investigate why his client coughed and convulsed on a death chamber gurney, saying a lethal injection drug may have been the cause.
Kenneth Williams was the fourth inmate put to death in eight days in the state, which before April had not carried out an execution in 12 years. Accounts of his execution on Thursday night raised fresh concerns about whether the sedative midazolam, a Valium-like drug, is effective in lethal injection mixes.
Witnesses said Williams, who admitted to killing four people, jerked and gasped for air for about 30 seconds a few minutes after his execution began. The state said it was a routine execution lasting about 15 minutes, but critics said something was amiss.
"It is not a normal reaction to therapeutic doses of midazolam," said Jonathan Groner, a professor of surgery at the Ohio State University College of Medicine who has testified against the drug's use in executions.
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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arkansas-execution-idUSKBN17U2RL
Judi Lynn
(160,516 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)painful and brutal. When they put you under for surgery, you are completely out and unconscious. Why can't they put them out peacefully and then administer drugs that stop the heart? This seems like a no-brainer. It could be peaceful, why does it need to be this way?
Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)Abu Pepe
(637 posts)the whole reason for using a paralytic is to keep the witnesses ignorant to the suffering in front of them.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I guess the last drug is chloride compound of some kind and it causes severe pain, if conscious. The last drug is the one that kills.
You know, we euthanize animals peacefully.
Abu Pepe
(637 posts)Arguably the best way to die.