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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 11:29 AM May 2017

Upton, Long reverse themselves, back Obamacare repeal bill

Source: Politico



GOP leaders are tweaking the bill to lure resistant House members as the White House pushes for a vote as soon as Thursday.

By JOHN BRESNAHAN , KYLE CHENEY , RACHAEL BADE and JOSH DAWSEY 05/02/17 11:28 PM EDT Updated 05/03/17 11:15 AM EDT


Update 11:15 a.m.:

Two prominent Republican opponents of the House GOP's Obamacare repeal bill reversed course and backed the measure Wednesday morning, after negotiating a last-minute amendment with President Donald Trump at the White House.

Reps. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Billy Long (R-Mo.) emerged from their session with the president and said that an amendment to add $8 billion to help cover people with preexisting conditions would return them to the "yes" column on the bill.

Original story:

A pair of high-profile Republican opponents of the GOP's Obamacare repeal plan are huddling with Donald Trump at the White House on Wednesday morning as the president and congressional leaders attempt to win back their support and persuade additional holdouts to get on board.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/health-care-republicans-obamacare-237910

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iluvtennis

(19,851 posts)
2. 1) the $8 bil isn't in the budget that was approved and 2) it won't go far when insurance companies
Wed May 3, 2017, 11:38 AM
May 2017

start increasing the rates for folks with pre-existing conditions. Did these two congressmen have have the clause allowing insurance companies to put pre-existing folks in a special pool so they can be discriminated against. GAAAAAH

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. Of course, they plan to vote without any actual CBO analysis...
Wed May 3, 2017, 12:04 PM
May 2017

...because they rather would avoid knowing about the damage that the bill would inflict.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
11. They don't even care what damage the bill would inflict
Wed May 3, 2017, 12:45 PM
May 2017

They just want to hurry up and vote it in before anyone else finds out. Paul Ryan could give a damn about the death and suffering that would follow in the wake of his policies. I've already called up my representatives in regard to health care once this week. Guess I'm going to have to do it again, and I hope everyone else will, too.

 

moda253

(615 posts)
10. In the end they are going to kill it one way or another.
Wed May 3, 2017, 12:11 PM
May 2017

They are going to reduce ACA down to rubble either by picking away at it bit by bit or they are going to get one of these repeals through. I don't want people to lose their insurance but the republicans are going to do it one way or another. I understand fighting them off as long as possible because people NEED that healthcare, but in the end if they break it piece by piece the impact of it will be rationalized into nothingness. If they repeal it with a piece of shit like they want to we need to bash them over the head with it constantly.

This whole situation is just awful.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
13. The longer the Dems (and constituents) fight against it...
Wed May 3, 2017, 01:15 PM
May 2017

the more ACA will be seen as the first, necessary step to treating healthcare as a basic right in this country. I think that part of the rush to repeal it is that the GOP knows this. They're desperate to move quickly because it will become more and more difficult.

maxrandb

(15,322 posts)
14. This has nothing to do with health care as a right
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:22 AM
May 2017

Their entire singular purpose for pushing this repeal is to free up more money for a tax cut for the 1%

That's it. That's why they have to do ACA repeal first. The money they claw out of the ACA will fund their massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the 1%. It's the only way they can claim that shit like ending the estate tax is "deficit neutral".

They could not give one fuck about who is hurt by this. It's fucking perfect in their minds. If you die because you got sick and can't afford the treatment... it's God's fucking will.

I guess in the grand scheme of things, $8B is pocket change compared to the trillions they are about to transfer to the 1%

I hate these fuckers and every last one of the ignorant idiots that elected them.

I don't want to understand them. I want to purge them

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
15. Of course THEY don't care, or see it as a right....
Thu May 4, 2017, 01:20 PM
May 2017

but the longer people become used to having affordable healthcare, the more the general public will see it as a right, and the bigger the pushback will be against repeal.

maxrandb

(15,322 posts)
16. They don't care!
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:08 PM
May 2017

They are currently in the process of consolidating their power. They will use the courts to further restrict "voting rights". They will use Law Enforcement to crush any opposition. They will use gerrymandering to ensure that even if Dems win by 10% the Retrumplicans will still maintain a majority in the House.

In the meantime, we have prominent Democrats and Progressives saying that the most progressive President in my life time, and a man that came from nothing, "doesn't understand working Americans. Why don't we just fucking make the Retrumplican argument for them?

THEY own the courts!
THEY own the media!
THEY own 33 Governorships!
THEY own a majority of State Houses!
THEY own Law Enforcement!
THEY own the Military!

Hell, as I write this, I'm thinking the only thing left for me to do is to shut out the lights in my home when I leave the fucking country.

I'm tired of being told that "the people are going to eventually rise up".

What people?

Where the fuck are they?

Maybe they're too busy telling us how out of touch President Obama is, or that "both parties are just the fucking same"

This country is fucking lost. It was nice while it lasted, but unless the Democrats can get out of their own way, it's lost!

The rest of you can embrace our new Overlords...I'm out!

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
12. So will these two "republican hypocrites and the other 246 hypocrites that vote on this "measure"
Wed May 3, 2017, 12:54 PM
May 2017

will they take a test to see if they have some f***ing pre-existing condition----, where is the PUBLIC OPTION, this is just a dog and pony show of BS

This free market BS of f***ing greed is just amazing----------------THEY DON'T CARE PEOPLE, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU, it's not in there job description, never has been and never will be-------------------it's about greed., they hate us!!!!!!!!

They never read the Preamble of the Constitution where the part that says, "promote the general Welfare", they don't promote the "general Welfare", they attack those words:

wel·fare
ˈwelˌfer/
noun
the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group.






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