Senate won't vote on House-passed healthcare bill

[n2doc]

Source: Washington Examiner

Senate Republicans said Thursday they won't vote on the House-passed bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, but will write their own legislation instead.

A Senate proposal is now being developed by a 12-member working group. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, senators said, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process.

"The safest thing to say is there will be a Senate bill, but it will look at what the House has done and see how much of that we can incorporate in a product that works for us in reconciliation," said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.



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[katmondoo]

1. that worries me

[OnDoutside]

3. I agree, they are snakes.

[cstanleytech]

26. Snakes would be a step up on the evolutionary ladder for Repugnants so they clearly

cant be snakes.

[samnsara]

2. is this good or bad?

[Jno_Gilmor_]

5. The Senate bill will be milder, but will still be bad.

[mpcamb]

48. They'll be answering the question, "How bad can we make it and still get 50 votes."

[SoCalNative]

6. Considering it's being touted by senate Repukes

....

[OnDoutside]

7. Whatever they come back with, will have to go back to the House.

[tenorly]

10. And there's the rub: House tea baggers.

The most extreme, medieval, and downright fascist group of legislators anywhere in the developed world (and much of the developing world as well).

They'll die before allowing any sensible compromise.

[OnDoutside]

54. Somehow, Democrats have to get the message to Republican

Voters that they will be hurt far more than Dem voters in Blue states, because RW nut job Red states will go for the pre existing opt out.

The Republicans are going to spin this as a great victory, and then try hide the CBO score when it comes out..... Democrats must ready to capitalize on this.

[iluvtennis]

49. Agree they are snakes, but good news to me (pre existing person) as Obamacare stays in place...

...as the Senate of House bounce the legislation back and forth.

[OnDoutside]

52. I really hope that is the case, but I worry that they'll put

savage pressure on to push it through. After all, many of them will benefit from the tax cuts. Who here said Trump would get it done in the House, last week ? Yet it did, and that is from people who have to face the voter in 18 months time.

[hedda_foil]

8. Very bad. They're going to try to put pieces of it in reconciliation bills so they'd only need 51 v

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Reconciliation requires "budget neutral"

and if they have that $8 billion bribe in there, that might not be considered "neutral" and would need separate legislation to include that designated funding which would require 60 votes (including possibly riding on some other bill).

[briv1016]

38. The $880B cut from medicaid means Trumpcare saves the feds money.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. "Budget Neutral" meaning "no change"

whether more or less...

Budget reconciliation is supposed to be an "outline" document to direct what other legislation might be needed related to a budget bill (or bills), but is not one itself nor is it an appropriations bill.

[briv1016]

46. Okay, they'll add another tax cut for the 1%. If they have to.

[BumRushDaShow]

47. That would have to go in different legislation requiring 60 votes.

[iluvtennis]

50. But cutting Medicaid funding means 20 million + will lose coverage in some form.

[PoliticAverse]

12. It's good because it means the House vote today was for naught...

but it's bad if they eventually manage to come up with something that will
pass the House.

[LS_Editor]

4. It could be even worse.

[PoliticAverse]

14. The House bill passed with only 1 vote to spare. The Senate doesn't have a lot....

of room to deviate from what the House passed.

[yallerdawg]

9. When they "tweak" the House version...

it will never pass the House!

THIS is good news!

[moonscape]

23. I'm not convinced. I do think they will end

up destroying ACA one way or another. The only thing we don't know is what vehicle they will use.

[mdbl]

42. They are hell-bent on doing anything to it

just so they can say the did it.

[DaDeacon]

11. well if this is true...

They just nullified what the house did LOL! Basically, they will do something and send it down to be approved by the house. The House will 'not" like it more than likely see you at Trumpcare 4.0...

[DeminPennswoods]

19. They walked the plank for nothing

well, ok, they walked it for a case of beer and bus ride to the WH. They are cheap dates!

[greymattermom]

13. the CBO score will come soon

and the numbers will be scary.

[elleng]

39. I do hope so,

give EVERYONE something REAL to compare and contrast 2 bills to.

CBO will have to score the senate's bill too, right?

[spiderpig]

15. It's all smoke and mirrors with Repugs.

Big self-congratulatory bus ride to the White House where they can fawn over Orange for a photo op while Orange smirks and calculates how much he's conned out of this deal.

Now the Senate will "tweak" (look over here at this shiny object) while they pick the public's other pocket.

It's easy to swindle and win when you have no moral compass whatsoever.

And we know The Win is the most important thing in the world to Orange.

Um...that and the cash.

[keithbvadu2]

35. "a photo op" - with a cardboard cutout of Trump?

Like his Trump University graduates?

[harun]

55. +1

[Bengus81]

16. LOL...the House version isn't TOXIC enough for NEO CONS in the Senate.....n/t

[MattP]

17. How does this not need 60 votes

[PoliticAverse]

20. If they can get it declared eligible for "budgetary reconciliation" it only needs 51 votes

to pass.

The original ACA passed in 2 parts. The first part needed 60 votes the second part was passed
through reconciliation (the Democrats could no longer muster 60 votes ) and only needed 51 votes.

[book_worm]

18. This barely passed the house. If the Senate passes even a slightly better bill

The Senate bill won't pass the house.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Republicans are not united. Democrats have been effective with Pelosi & Schumer when united. nt

[OnDoutside]

22. There must be an intensive Democratic Party (and Outside Groups) campaign to make the the political

lives of the Republicans who voted for this, a nightmare over the next 18 months. It has to be done as a warning to GOP Senators and to set up for the Midterms. If they don't, you might as well surrender.

[mdbl]

43. Let's hope Pelosi and Schumer don't weasel out this time

keeping my fingers crossed.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. I think they realized

that $8 billion amendment won't allow them to do it by reconciliation so they have to break it up into pieces - which DOES offer the opportunity to slam the House GOP members again. "Reconciliation" (in the Senate which only needs 51 votes) means the contents within the legislation must be "budget neutral" and that pot of funding the House stuck on there is not "budget neutral" (at least IMHO).

[Tiggeroshii]

27. Is this working group all republican?

[n2doc]

30. I will bet so n/t

[elmac]

31. yes nt

[Tiggeroshii]

36. Funny how the article fails to point that out

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. This may have been the plan. Give tRump a bump & satisfy rabid Teas and let Senate kill it.

The Republicon plan is to con their base by having their cake and eating it too. Passing it in the House and killing it in the Senate.

But they own this and their own disunity. It will come back to the House from the Senate with changes that enough Republicons won't accept so that it will die in reconciliation committee.

By that time the media will be distracted by some other shiny thing.

[elmac]

29. anything the fascists work on will be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

Dems better not help the pigs one bit!

[mainer]

32. Ha. "No deadline for this new bill." It might take them 4 years...

and then we could have a Dem in the White House.

[MedusaX]

33. My take-away from this is the message sent by the timing

The Senate could have let the House KGOP & 45 wallow in their victory for a while...
at least more than 15 minutes...

So the Senate just said
Fuck You Very Much
to their fellow KGOP House members & 45 for pushing the Healthcare Ball into the Senates court..

Of course the WINNING UNIFIED KGOP house HEALTHCARE bill VICTORY for TRUMP
OBAMACARE Officially Declared DEAD
PROMISES KEPT
headlines & screen banners will live on well into the 2018 campaign season....

So the Fuck You Very Much sentiment is symbolic at best....

[Lotusflower70]

34. Who knows

This could be a another attempt to demonize Democrats.

[adigal]

37. If this is true, Elise Stefanik, NY21, cut her own throat for no reason

We are going to hang this around her neck like a sack of dead fish.

[bluestarone]

40. this is all

a bullshit game there playing and with peoples lives the assholes I HATE THESE HOUSE REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

41. House Repubs knew that the Senate wouldn't accept their bill

They just wanted it out of the House so Ryan and Dump could have a "win." Some win. That POS will never pass and they know it. The Senate is going to have to deal with the CBO report that the House rushed to beat with their vote and it won't be pretty.

[n2doc]

45. As someone noted above, the rapid response of the Senate to this is a big FU to Ryan and Trump

Like, no way are we going to eat this shit sandwich.

[Demtexan]

51. The republicans in Congress has blown their cover.

This will wake some Thump voters.

[dalton99a]

53. Republicans in the Senate are no less cruel or evil

They don't give a shit about anyone else in this deal but tax cuts for the 1%