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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:00 AM May 2017

Scoop: Trump, irked at cabinet and staff, mulls sweeping shake-up

Source: Axios

At the urging of longtime friends and outside advisers, most of whom he consults after dark, President Trump is considering a "huge reboot" that could take out everyone from Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and chief strategist Steve Bannon, to counsel Don McGahn and press secretary Sean Spicer, White House sources tell me.

Trump is also irritated with several Cabinet members, the sources said.

...snip...

The conversations intensified this week as the aftermath of the Comey firing pushed the White House from chaos into crisis. Trump's friends are telling him that many of his top aides don't know how to work with him, and point out that his approval ratings aren't rising, but the leaks are.

"The advice he's getting is to go big — that he has nothing to lose," the confidant said. "The question now is how big and how bold. I'm not sure he knows the answer to that yet."

Read more: https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-irked-at-cabinet-and-staff-mulls-sweeping-shake-up-2407137307.html

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Scoop: Trump, irked at cabinet and staff, mulls sweeping shake-up (Original Post) brooklynite May 2017 OP
So would he replace them with basic COMPETENCE, or ... PsychoBabble May 2017 #1
I think it's the "next-level FLUFFERS" thing NastyRiffraff May 2017 #35
Yeah, that's gonna fix things. pangaia May 2017 #2
the least admired president in modern era....I'm afraid it will take more than just replacing people beachbum bob May 2017 #3
Ivanka and Jared? Scarsdale May 2017 #26
No, they stay. pressbox69 May 2017 #31
After the election, the only thing keeping me sane was my hunch that they would be incompetent. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #4
Yep. murielm99 May 2017 #48
How Would This Help? DallasNE May 2017 #5
It won't help with his biggest problem: he's an immature, impulsive, ignorant half-wit Julian Englis May 2017 #36
This is how he operates CanonRay May 2017 #6
Yeah sure, that should quiet down and reassure the public vlyons May 2017 #7
Drain the Swamp II - The Epic continues packman May 2017 #8
He could bring in Alex Jones, his buddy, as his Press Secretary! RKP5637 May 2017 #9
Now that might be fun.... paleotn May 2017 #18
It would be the first press conferences with breaks for ads while he hawked his end times crap RKP5637 May 2017 #25
Even the GOPers would start slinking away Pluvious May 2017 #39
Yeah, the Turtle might really like him! n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #40
Chaos Mz Pip May 2017 #10
So much for that "well oiled machine". smirkymonkey May 2017 #11
... 2naSalit May 2017 #12
Hasn't he done that two or three times already? How many in his "administration"... George II May 2017 #13
Oh, yeah, keep telling that bumbling fool Grammy23 May 2017 #14
Donnie does not have the capability to realize most of his loyalists and friends are "fake". Freethinker65 May 2017 #15
It's hard to recognize rats as foe Plucketeer May 2017 #27
obstructing again. the cabinet can remove him. he is gonna fire them. mopinko May 2017 #16
"Go big", huh? Texin May 2017 #17
A King wants adoring sycophants. nt procon May 2017 #19
Go big? paleotn May 2017 #20
This makes me think that he put the worst possible people in the logosoco May 2017 #21
The Mad King consults longtime friend and advisor Putin after dark Hekate May 2017 #22
RepublicanTV fox lets Mr. Chump have his pick of their paid woman. He'll settle down for a while. Sunlei May 2017 #23
But Trump promised to get the Best-from Day one!. I will believe a riversedge May 2017 #24
"I hire the best people" jberryhill May 2017 #28
The next set of humans Corgigal May 2017 #29
Wonderful next move, Dump! roamer65 May 2017 #30
He needs the replacements confirmed in many cases - that takes time from karynnj May 2017 #32
Just this morning pressbox69 May 2017 #33
possible taped conversation rickford66 May 2017 #34
There's only one shake-up that would work Julian Englis May 2017 #37
"insufficiently effusive in praising him as a brilliant diplomat, etc." muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #38
Seems he may want producers from faux news come in. duncang May 2017 #41
This is how narcissistic authoritarians behave. There will be constant purges. yardwork May 2017 #42
Trump should do the right thing and resign mdbl May 2017 #43
ohhhhhhhhh appoint me for something!!!! i could use a bigger paycheck for a while dembotoz May 2017 #44
This could be entertaining, if you like horror films jmowreader May 2017 #45
fire them all. I doubt confirmations will get any better demtenjeep May 2017 #46
Senior staff are not subject to confirmation hearings. brooklynite May 2017 #47

PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
1. So would he replace them with basic COMPETENCE, or ...
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:09 AM
May 2017

... next-level FLUFFERS?

With 45 there as the catalyst, not sure what would change.

Sounds like a coaching decision "Hail Mary" to me ... "Why not? Maybe we'll get lucky ...."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
35. I think it's the "next-level FLUFFERS" thing
Sun May 14, 2017, 01:01 PM
May 2017

Dump has no concept of hiring people who are able to tell him when he's wrong. The idea of an independent FBI, for example, is foreign to him. He demands absolute, unquestioning loyalty, so naturally those he hires are unthinking idiots. Of course, that loyalty only goes in one direction; he doesn't return it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. Yeah, that's gonna fix things.
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:12 AM
May 2017
"The sources say Trump feels ill-served by not just his staff but also by several of his Cabinet officials."

Well I feel ill served by the stupid pus machine in what has become the offal office.


""The advice he's getting is to go big — that he has nothing to lose..."

WE DO...




Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
4. After the election, the only thing keeping me sane was my hunch that they would be incompetent.
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:16 AM
May 2017

That said, these first 110 or so days have "exceeded" my wildest dreams. This is an absolute dumpster fire.

And the best part is that it will never get better, for the exact same reason there will never be an Obamacare "replacement." If he moves to the middle towards anything resembling a responsible approach, the crazies will abandon him in droves. But if he continues pandering to the base, he alienates everyone else.

In the meantime, it's about time to open another box of popcorn.

murielm99

(30,716 posts)
48. Yep.
Mon May 15, 2017, 06:43 AM
May 2017

As long as he is busy tweeting and storming around the White House after dark, he won't destroy as much as he would if he was competent.

Let him fire and hire, fire and hire. It will keep him (and the country) out of more serious trouble.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
5. How Would This Help?
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:23 AM
May 2017

This wouldn't address two key problems. Trump has left too many openings unfilled for being this late in a new administration. Too many holdovers have been purged so not enough people left with government experience, knowing how the various departments work. Getting rid of green people and replacing them with even greener people can only add to the chaos and confusion. Also, where is Jared in all of this? For awhile he was everywhere and now he is totally missing. Tillerson was a big bust with the Russia thing the other day.

Trump still has the Republicans in tow so he has a lot to lose. Perhaps Trump should "go big" and resign - and take Spicer with him.

CanonRay

(14,084 posts)
6. This is how he operates
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:24 AM
May 2017

keep everyone in fear of their job and of him. That way no questions are asked.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. Yeah sure, that should quiet down and reassure the public
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:29 AM
May 2017

More turmoil. More chaos. More blame everyone else. Actually I hope he does it. Throw a big monkey wrench in the works. Then when he screws up and says something vulgar insulting and stupid again, we all can see yet again how totally unfit he is. Meanwhile the FBI investigation into his Russian money laundering continues unabated.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. Drain the Swamp II - The Epic continues
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:30 AM
May 2017

More action - more bloodshed from whatever - bold and daring in its scope of idiocy - Realigning the Political Universe

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
18. Now that might be fun....
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:22 AM
May 2017

picture that ingrate ripping off his shirt at the first press briefing. That might be more fun than watching Huckabee spawn thrown in the deep end and ripped to shreds by the press corp. I understand the gravity, but unfortunately this is what our democracy has devolved to and what's considered "good government" by a large section of our populace who need their voting rights revoked. Our own versions of Caligula, Nero and their entourage.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
25. It would be the first press conferences with breaks for ads while he hawked his end times crap
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:45 AM
May 2017

for patriots to be prepared for the globalists takeover.

Mz Pip

(27,430 posts)
10. Chaos
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
May 2017

It hasn't even been a full 4 months yet. It's a train wreck and I am optimistic that it won't take 4 years to end this catastrophe.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Hasn't he done that two or three times already? How many in his "administration"...
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:48 AM
May 2017

...have come and gone since January, not to mention all those who have declined appointments?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
14. Oh, yeah, keep telling that bumbling fool
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:11 AM
May 2017

that the problem is not him. It's OTHER people that are the problem. Keep feeding him that narrative....his go to explanation whenever things don't go his way. Just keep telling him that lie. We wouldn't want to disturb his quaint view of his world, huh?

Houston....we have a problem. A very big problem that sits at the pinnacle of our government. Unless and until we lance this festering boil, chaos and pandemium will rule the day.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
16. obstructing again. the cabinet can remove him. he is gonna fire them.
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:12 AM
May 2017

perhaps the idea of an article 25 is starting to float around.

Texin

(2,590 posts)
17. "Go big", huh?
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:16 AM
May 2017

The only thing "big" enough to fix this shit is for him to climb up on that horse's ass he rode in on and head into the sunset. Failing that, nothing else will work. Hide and watch. The only people he'll have serving in the WH are the same chuckleheads who surrounded him during the election, i.e., Giuliani, Christy, et al. But even his so-called loyalists are not strong enough to endure in this exhausting and withering environment of total incompetence, delusion and chaotic corruption.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
20. Go big?
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:28 AM
May 2017

Like going all Erdogan on us? I wouldn't be surprised. And Rethuglican Congress critters probably wouldn't do a damn thing about it other than wring their hands. Why do they not stand up for our democracy? They fear of the utterly moronic base they've created. A base that would welcome an idiot overlord just as stupid as they. Welcome to Dumbfuckistan.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
21. This makes me think that he put the worst possible people in the
Sun May 14, 2017, 11:29 AM
May 2017

cabinet positions so that he could "look good" when he fired them.

This is not a game, Donny. Your EPA and Interior picks have real consequences. Some of the jobs are just fluff (press secretary) and do not really make policy. Sessions is just backward for every American.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
29. The next set of humans
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:07 PM
May 2017

who work for Trump now understand they have 100 day till they to get fired. Take this job at your own risk, unless of course you're behind in your bills. You may not even get the health insurance to kick in.

He can only blame others, so no one will last long. This isn't any long term gig. Got to be desperate to accept in the first place. Get your resume first with your new job title day one and then shop it.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
32. He needs the replacements confirmed in many cases - that takes time from
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:11 PM
May 2017

getting anything else done in the Senate where confirmations are done. He can't really run against the Senate - as the Republicans control it. Any legislation needs to pass both houses. If he fired many people that the Senate confirmed (at his request), I would bet that the amount of legislation that gets done will be limited.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
33. Just this morning
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:36 PM
May 2017

Chris Wallace mentioned that president cancer is considering firing just about everyone "basically turning everything over to Ivanka, Jaret, I'm not kidding here, and their associates."

rickford66

(5,521 posts)
34. possible taped conversation
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:40 PM
May 2017

Trump: Mr X old buddy. I want you to join my administration.
Mr X: Sorry. I gotta wash my hair.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
41. Seems he may want producers from faux news come in.
Sun May 14, 2017, 02:04 PM
May 2017

Have the very best in stupid and spin around him. Maybe he should hire press secretary doocy.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
42. This is how narcissistic authoritarians behave. There will be constant purges.
Sun May 14, 2017, 02:34 PM
May 2017

Trump's paranoia will get worse as he becomes more isolated. There will be eruptions of purges but nothing will ever help. The problem is within himself and he can't admit it.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
43. Trump should do the right thing and resign
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

He's costing this country too much money and we are getting nothing in return except a bunch of selfish pigs in congress trying to pass laws to fuck most of us and benefit a very few. What a shitty place this has become. What will be the catalyst to wake up the country and get rid of these assholes?

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
44. ohhhhhhhhh appoint me for something!!!! i could use a bigger paycheck for a while
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:38 PM
May 2017

and as dumb as he is perhaps it would be a couple months before he figured out how much i hated him....by that time i could bigly pay off some bills. does not matter which office, i mean his current appointments are not exactly competent. i could do just as good as any of them hiding in my office sipping bourbon.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
45. This could be entertaining, if you like horror films
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:11 PM
May 2017

My thought as to what Trump will do:

According to https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/white-house-installs-political-aides-at-cabinet-agencies-to-be-trumps-eyes-and-ears/2017/03/19/68419f0e-08da-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.d01dc3cb2fb7, Trump has created the position of Senior White House Advisor (SWHA) at each Cabinet-level agency. Trump doesn't trust his own Cabinet even though he picked them all.

He will probably fire his entire Cabinet. The SWHA will assume de facto leadership of their agencies, each reporting to Trump's most trusted advisors, his children. The SWHA will work knowing they can be fired at any second; therefore, they will call Trump for permission before doing anything. Trump will NOT nominate new secretaries because the Senate isn't going to start confirming entire Cabinets every four or five months.

This is how dictatorships start.

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