Thu May 25, 2017, 11:46 PM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
Republican Greg Gianforte wins Montana special election
Source: CNN
Republican Greg Gianforte has won the special election for Montana's open US House seat, CNN projects, defeating Democrat Rob Quist and capping off a whirlwind final 36 hours of the campaign that saw Gianforte being charged for allegedly assaulting a reporter. With 77% of precincts reporting, Gianforte had 159,757 votes - or 50.4% of the vote, compared to Quist who has 138,325 votes, 43.7% of the vote, according to Edison Research. Gianforte was considered the favorite heading into Thursday's election to fill the seat once held by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, but that was before he allegedly "body-slammed" a reporter during his final campaign event in Bozeman on Wednesday. By midnight Wednesday, the Gallatin County Sheriff's office had charged Gianforte with misdemeanor assault. Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/montana-special-election-results/ Montana Sec. of State website: http://mtelectionresults.gov/resultsSW.aspx?typeFED&mapCTY
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sandensea | May 2017 | OP |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #1 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #9 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #11 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #13 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #16 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #18 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #19 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #21 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #26 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #28 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #32 | |
meow2u3 | May 2017 | #61 | |
onecaliberal | May 2017 | #40 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #41 | |
onecaliberal | May 2017 | #42 | |
Rhiannon12866 | May 2017 | #43 | |
onecaliberal | May 2017 | #58 | |
milestogo | May 2017 | #2 | |
dalton99a | May 2017 | #10 | |
Wabbajack_ | May 2017 | #3 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #7 | |
furtheradu | May 2017 | #4 | |
MontanaMama | May 2017 | #29 | |
furtheradu | May 2017 | #33 | |
MontanaMama | May 2017 | #66 | |
jesskirablue42 | May 2017 | #5 | |
Dawson Leery | May 2017 | #6 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #8 | |
hay rick | May 2017 | #12 | |
Matthew Rose | May 2017 | #14 | |
flibbitygiblets | May 2017 | #15 | |
SunSeeker | May 2017 | #23 | |
MBS | May 2017 | #44 | |
hay rick | May 2017 | #30 | |
former9thward | May 2017 | #56 | |
hay rick | May 2017 | #69 | |
llmart | May 2017 | #51 | |
Judi Lynn | May 2017 | #17 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #25 | |
ucrdem | May 2017 | #20 | |
Judi Lynn | May 2017 | #22 | |
ucrdem | May 2017 | #27 | |
Juliusseizure | May 2017 | #68 | |
benpollard | May 2017 | #24 | |
olddad56 | May 2017 | #31 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #34 | |
BlueStater | May 2017 | #35 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #36 | |
DemKittyNC | May 2017 | #37 | |
sandensea | May 2017 | #38 | |
DemKittyNC | May 2017 | #39 | |
Norbert | May 2017 | #45 | |
C_U_L8R | May 2017 | #46 | |
mdbl | May 2017 | #47 | |
mdbl | May 2017 | #48 | |
former9thward | May 2017 | #57 | |
mdbl | May 2017 | #70 | |
videohead5 | May 2017 | #49 | |
bucolic_frolic | May 2017 | #50 | |
wolfie001 | May 2017 | #52 | |
keithbvadu2 | May 2017 | #53 | |
Seasider | May 2017 | #54 | |
melm00se | May 2017 | #55 | |
old guy | May 2017 | #59 | |
denvine | May 2017 | #62 | |
TomCADem | May 2017 | #60 | |
QC | May 2017 | #65 | |
LisaL | May 2017 | #71 | |
Bradical79 | May 2017 | #63 | |
TryLogic | May 2017 | #64 | |
gldstwmn | May 2017 | #67 |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:50 PM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
1. Crap! He's live on MSNBC now, congratulating himself...
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #1)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:59 PM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
9. At least he was brief - his only virtue.
Still, he appears to have won by 6% - in a state Dump carried by 21.
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Response to sandensea (Reply #9)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:03 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
11. The news story has gone national, it's baffling that he's willing to appear in public
Let alone to congratulate himself and have the nerve to criticize his opposition.
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #11)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:07 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
13. Lowlifes are usually shameless as well.
An "admirable" trait to many of our fellow Americans, sadly.
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Response to sandensea (Reply #13)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:12 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
16. He said he was "sorry" in front of his fans
So I guess he assumes that's all it takes...
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #16)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:25 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
18. He'd better practice those crocodile tears.
He'll need them in court once Ben Jacobs drags him there.
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Response to sandensea (Reply #18)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:28 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
19. How anyone can countenance having voted for this violent nut job is beyond me
But he's only emulating the despicable behavior that's occurring at a national level.
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #19)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:34 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
21. Let's face it: to many Republicans, ruffians and pirates are aspirational figures.
They're the "men" they wish they could be.
If, God forbid, we all lose our health coverage, childish daydreams like those will be the last thing on their minds. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #21)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:42 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
26. We once had heroes in this country, elected officials who inspired us to be better
These days, the majority of news stories on a daily basis are speculating about how and when they broke the law.
![]() And I sure agree. Presidents and members of Congress were elected to make things better for all of us. But the current elections have left us with officials - from the top down - who want to take things away from us and make things more difficult for those who are already struggling. It's not supposed to work that way. ![]() |
Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #26)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:47 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
28. And we mostly have right-wing media to thank for that.
25 years of a well-oiled, corporate-funded scream machine telling low-information voters that Democrats "wanna take all yo' money, trucks, Bibles, and guns - an' give it to the n***ers and fawners" has had a real effect on our politics.
Cheeto and Gianforte were inevitable, given those conditions. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #28)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:52 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
32. Trump sure kept his promise and "drained the swamp"
And now the most dangerous monsters have crawled out of the ooze and are walking among us.
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Response to sandensea (Reply #21)
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:20 AM
meow2u3 (24,563 posts)
61. Thugs are Repukes' idea of heroes
So are gangbangers, mobsters, white supremacist gangs, and other criminal figures.
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #19)
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:00 AM
onecaliberal (28,797 posts)
40. Not only did they vote for him he raised quite a bit of money overnight. They're proud.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #40)
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:06 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
41. It totally boggles the mind...
What's going on now has clearly brought out the worst of us. After decades of progress, making hate acceptable again. It started at the top - and has spread.
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #41)
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:11 AM
onecaliberal (28,797 posts)
42. Yeah, that's what happens when a fascist is elected POTUS.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #42)
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:15 AM
Rhiannon12866 (172,109 posts)
43. And the media has gradually "normalized" this outrageous behavior
We've gotten used to it now, apparently nothing is now shocking or off limits.
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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #43)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:43 AM
onecaliberal (28,797 posts)
58. And there are no actual patriots in the Republican Party.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:50 PM
milestogo (14,234 posts)
2. AP should declare GOP voters of Montana to be deplorable losers
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:51 PM
Wabbajack_ (1,300 posts)
3. Can forced resignation be part of a plea deal?
Response to Wabbajack_ (Reply #3)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:54 PM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
7. If only!
But the Sherriff's his die-hard supporter, so he's unlikely to cooperate. And once Gianfarte's in Congress, they'll protect him.
Eddie Munster will see to that. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:51 PM
furtheradu (1,852 posts)
4. :(
So sorry, Montana Dems.Rest &KNOW..
KARMA is happening. BELIEVE IT. ![]() |
Response to furtheradu (Reply #4)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:47 AM
MontanaMama (21,235 posts)
29. Thanks furtheradu.
You're one of the few reassuring and supportive folks on here tonight for those of us in Montana grieving another election disaster.
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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #29)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:07 AM
furtheradu (1,852 posts)
33. You hang in there, feel Your grief, HEAL..
& when You can, come back & fight.
![]() I'm grieving too, yet I KNOW this mess is temporary. WE keep the Faith, & RESIST. I KNOW..cuz "I'm south of Texas" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to furtheradu (Reply #33)
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:44 AM
MontanaMama (21,235 posts)
66. Holy hell
Yes you do know how it is...
![]() We'll get 'em. The dam is about to burst. Feeling feisty today!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:51 PM
jesskirablue42 (50 posts)
5. he says he's sorry
and someone in the crowd yells out "you're forgiven"..
I know the sound of battered wife syndrome when I hear it. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:53 PM
Dawson Leery (19,326 posts)
6. And there it is, American Conservatism with the integrity of Adam Lanza.
Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #6)
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:56 PM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
8. Bullies, cads, and crooks are aspirational figures for many of our fellow Americans.
And Gianfarte fits all three.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:05 AM
hay rick (6,420 posts)
12. Montana shit itself.
It is what it is.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:09 AM
Matthew Rose (66 posts)
14. There was no 'winner' in this election, only losers
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:09 AM
flibbitygiblets (7,220 posts)
15. Can someone explain why the Dem's ran
a banjo player who'd never held, or even run for, any kind of public office before? I'm sure he's a nice guy, but not much of a public service resume, based on his own website.
They could have run a cowboy-hatted toaster oven and not done much worse with Trumpy out there shitting all over America and abroad; but Imagine what could have been accomplished with an actual strategy! |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #15)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:34 AM
SunSeeker (48,736 posts)
23. Quist was not a bad candidate. It was a low turnout special election in a red state.
And despite all that he only lost by 6 points in a state Trump carried by 20 points.
Let's not beat ourselves up. We have 2018 still coming up and Gianforte will have to run again, this time with everyone knowing (before they vote!) about the assault and how he lied about it. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #15)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:51 AM
hay rick (6,420 posts)
30. The party doesn't pick its candidates.
The candidates pick themselves and if there's more than one the voters decide. If there is a good Democratic candidate waiting in the wings it would be difficult to blame him for avoiding a short duration campaign for a low-turnout special election against a candidate with a huge war chest and name recognition left over from a recently failed gubernatorial bid. And the asshole-in-chief carried the state by 20 just 6 months ago. Quist was a sacrificial lamb who did reasonably well.
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Response to hay rick (Reply #30)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:36 AM
former9thward (28,177 posts)
56. The party does pick the candidates.
That is exactly what the purpose of the Democratic House Campaign Committee is. They look at potential candidates in every House district and see who is the most viable. They push money to the ones they think can win. If they want candidate A to win the Democratic primary and she has a million dollars as a result and candidate B has $50,000 guess who is going to win?
In many districts the DHCC stays out because they think no Democrat can win. In those districts the voters pick whatever candidate is going to be the "sacrificial lamb" as you put it. |
Response to former9thward (Reply #56)
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:59 PM
hay rick (6,420 posts)
69. It's a two way street.
Typically candidates in competitive districts try to sell their wares to the DCCC- but that process starts with the candidate deciding they want to run. I live in such a district so I had a front row seat in 2016. The D-trip "word on the street" scared away some candidates but we still ended up with a 3 person primary- won by the well-funded DCCC candidate. He was a lousy political candidate and lost the election.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #15)
Fri May 26, 2017, 05:48 AM
llmart (14,103 posts)
51. Well, if a reality TV persona...
with zero experience who brags openly about grabbing women and assaulting them can win the Presidency then that sets a precedent for experience not mattering one iota in this country any longer.
It doesn't matter who the Dems would have run. It's Montana. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:20 AM
Judi Lynn (155,233 posts)
17. Does Congress need any more criminals? What a dirty shame. n/t
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #17)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:41 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
25. Ain't it though.
Still, Greedy Greg seems to have won with around 7% - in a state Cheeto carried by 21.
This fits the pattern in all these special elections: a 10-20% shift in favor of Democrats - even when they're being outspent four-to-one, as was the case here. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:28 AM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
20. Imagine if a Democrat had done that.
It would be game over 5 minutes later and he'd be in a super-max private prison by now.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #20)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:34 AM
Judi Lynn (155,233 posts)
22. Remember Susan McDougal went to prison for contempt of court, wore leg irons,
to make sure she wouldn't go wild and trash the place, apparently, thanks to the "wisdom" of Ken Starr, White Water prosecutor against Bill Clinton.
She refused to testify, went to prison, solitary, and wore leg irons. Democrat. The world was already so damned ugly at the hands of Republicans, even then! |
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #22)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:42 AM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
27. Medieval.
I'd forgotten that insanity. If this guy had a shred of decency he'd have resigned immediately. If there's a lawsuit he might have to sooner or later, sooner if Montanans don't like being an international laughingstock.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #20)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:49 PM
Juliusseizure (562 posts)
68. He'd also resign or likely lose the election
Aside from degree of criminal penalty, a dem is much more likely to lose his base of support if he body slammed a news reporter.
In Republican circles, that inevitably gets a chuckle, high-fives, and more donations if the reporter is perceived as a "libtard.". In Dem circles, it generally would invite insults and strong dissent. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:39 AM
benpollard (197 posts)
24. Lock him up!!!
That will never happen, though. Conservatives like leaders who act tough and especially if they profess their love for the Great Jebus.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:52 AM
olddad56 (5,732 posts)
31. I guess Russia already has Montana locked up.
Response to olddad56 (Reply #31)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:12 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
34. You're not kidding. Greg the Goon outspent Quist four to one.
My guess is that at least 30% of that were Russian moneys laundered through right-wing SuperPACs and other cutouts.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:12 AM
BlueStater (7,596 posts)
35. Great. They now have a thug congressman to go along with their sexual predator president.
They must be so proud.
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Response to BlueStater (Reply #35)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:21 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
36. The best gummint money can buy.
Putin and all the John Birch boardroom brigands spent big money to make all this happen - four-to-one, in this case.
The John Birchers because they want to live above the law and tax-free. And Putin because he knows how much damage that would cause America. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:33 AM
DemKittyNC (743 posts)
37. This is a new low
for America tonight. I am so depressed, more then usual tonight. Can't even sleep.
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Response to DemKittyNC (Reply #37)
Fri May 26, 2017, 01:46 AM
sandensea (18,341 posts)
38. Don't be.
Greg the Goon won by around 7% - in a state Cheeto carried by 21.
And this fits the pattern in all these special elections: a 10-20% shift in favor of Democrats - even when they're being outspent four-to-one, as was the case here. If we can maintain this trend, our next Speaker is Nancy Pelosi. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #38)
Fri May 26, 2017, 02:00 AM
DemKittyNC (743 posts)
39. Thanks
for helping me see a brighter side to this. It is much appreciated.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 03:24 AM
Norbert (5,516 posts)
45. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter
I mean, seriously, this isn't France. We seem to enjoy fucking ourselves over.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 04:26 AM
C_U_L8R (43,301 posts)
46. Republicans will regret this
This goober is a real example
of everything that is wrong with the GOP. It's a PR and political albatross for them. And we will gleefully flog them with it in every upcoming election. |
Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #46)
Fri May 26, 2017, 04:48 AM
mdbl (4,972 posts)
47. except in Montana where they obviously like this kind of idiot
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 04:53 AM
mdbl (4,972 posts)
48. Prosecute this asshole
I don't care if the voters of Montana are too stupid to make the right decision or not.
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Response to mdbl (Reply #48)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:38 AM
former9thward (28,177 posts)
57. Prosecute for what?
Misdemeanor assault is a probation and/or community service sentence everywhere.
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Response to former9thward (Reply #57)
Sat May 27, 2017, 07:21 AM
mdbl (4,972 posts)
70. ok a civil suit then
just keep this in Montana's face
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 05:04 AM
videohead5 (1,863 posts)
49. Remember
I think around 70% had already voted in early voting.if nothing else I think it would have been much much closer if the attack would have happened a couple of weeks ago.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 05:21 AM
bucolic_frolic (35,376 posts)
50. Body slam rallied his base, grabbed headlines
Can't say it made 7%, but probably awoke the lazy
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:19 AM
wolfie001 (1,619 posts)
52. I don't understand these RW fuckwits
No do I care to. Hateful, nasty bastards, every one of 'em. Fuck 'em!
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:39 AM
keithbvadu2 (30,163 posts)
53. Montana suicides
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 06:48 AM
Seasider (150 posts)
54. That election was over before the body slamming incident
About 2/3rds of Montana voters had already voted before that incident. The Democrats would've needed a huge surge in voter turnout to make a difference and that didn't happen. But even with that incident, Montana is a pretty red state and I'm sure Gianforte's actions pleased voters on the far right who share Trump's disdain of reporters. In their minds, that reporter got what was coming to him.
It also didn't help that the Democrats did not have a very viable candidate in Rob Quist. |
Response to Seasider (Reply #54)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:16 AM
melm00se (4,741 posts)
55. I was about to say that
according to one report 259,558 of 357,596 absentee ballots had been returned as of Wednesday night so those votes were already in before Candidate (now Congressman) Chucklehead had his melt down.
This begs the question: Do the benefits of early voting offset the advantages of observing the candidate during the most stressful aspect of the campaign (the last few days of the campaign when all the chips are on the table and everything is on the line)? |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:44 AM
old guy (3,270 posts)
59. So much for the Democratic wave that will sweep
us into power and change the direction of the country.
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Response to old guy (Reply #59)
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:29 AM
denvine (769 posts)
62. So true!
The last couple of years we kept hearing about the death of the Republican Party. The 2016 election was supposed to be a Democratic sweep! We just may have to face the fact that a large percentage of our populace would vote for Charles Manson if he had an (R) behind his name. Until we are able to turn down the noise and lies of FOX and the likes these people are addicted to them. Like Trump said, "I could shoot someone on Fifth Ave. and not lose any voters". This is probably the most insightful phrase he has ever spoken. One of the problems is getting Democrats out to vote. On that note, I feel awful for us as a country today but I particularly feel awful for Montana Democrats today. You are not alone. So many of us feel your pain and disappointment. Hell, I live in Kentucky. Our Senators are F#%king Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul and my Rep is Tea Party Thomas Massie. We can only hope that continued engagement, perseverance and non-stop truth seeking will carry us through this. It also helps that these morons will bury themselves eventually.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:19 AM
TomCADem (17,258 posts)
60. Sanders Focused On Montana, But Ignores Ossoff and Georgia Race
The Montana race was a longshot while the Georgia race is expected to be much closer. Yet, the DNC is deploying Bernie in Montana, but not Georgia?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/sanders-stumps-for-democrat-in-tight-montana-race/2017/05/21/19b280d0-3e34-11e7-8c25-44d09ff5a4a8_story.html?utm_term=.16a071dea441 BUTTE, Mont. — For months, Democrats were careful not to promise too much about Montana’s May 25 special election. Hillary Clinton had lost the state by 20.2 points. Rob Quist, the folk-singing Democratic candidate for Congress, had never run for office before. Losing a close race would grant a moral victory; raising the stakes and losing might give Republicans a boost. |
Response to TomCADem (Reply #60)
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:26 AM
LisaL (44,674 posts)
71. DNC is deploying Sanders? Says who?
Sanders isn't even a democrat.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:51 AM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
63. Early voting won him the election
A large majority of votes were cast already. Heard of a lot of people calling wanting to change their vote, but there's no mechanism for that.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:31 AM
TryLogic (1,675 posts)
64. House of Reps should refuse to seat the Montana body slammer, but
of course, they will look the other way and/or defend him because Republicans have no integrity. No integrity.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:45 AM
gldstwmn (4,383 posts)