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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:36 AM May 2017

Trump: NATO money 'beginning to pour in' from alliance partners

Source: Politico


By POLITICO STAFF 05/27/2017 07:21 AM EDT

President Donald Trump early Saturday tweeted that NATO countries have “agreed to step up payments” and “money is beginning to pour in” following his contentious meeting with leaders of the western alliance during his ongoing foreign trip. “Many NATO countries have agreed to step up payments considerably, as they should. Money is beginning to pour in- NATO will be much stronger,” he tweeted.

Trump on Thursday berated U.S. allies for not spending enough on defense, suggesting they owe “massive amounts” in back payments to the U.S. under the umbrella of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

“Over the last eight years, the United States spent more on defense than all other NATO countries combined,” he declared as the leaders of other NATO member countries looked on uncomfortably.

However, the commitments are for NATO allies to spend more on defense overall, mainly on their own militaries – so the increases would not necessarily be seen at headquarters but in the military budgets of individual countries.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/27/trump-nato-money-238882

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Trump: NATO money 'beginning to pour in' from alliance partners (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
Hahaha. Yeah, that's right. In 24 hours its completely different. Pholus May 2017 #1
Exactly Pholus MissKat May 2017 #28
No money pours into NATO, wtf is he talking about? beachbum bob May 2017 #2
He has no idea how NATO works. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #7
Yep. murielm99 May 2017 #45
I think... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #46
He does... He thinks he's some kind of mafia debt collector or something... Blue_Tires May 2017 #48
The NATO RobinA May 2017 #57
He is just making stuff up for his base pandr32 May 2017 #14
Yes & when Don Con's fake news is denied, his base will call the denial "fake new". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #22
That's all he needs to say to his base who will respond thusly Rural_Progressive May 2017 #29
+1 Blue_Tires May 2017 #49
Likewise, no NATO or member money is paid to the US. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #21
He thinks that NATO is like a Country Club (that HE owns) Stonepounder May 2017 #37
Exactly tammywammy May 2017 #56
He's just repeating some sh*t he heard on Fox News. harun May 2017 #58
He;s a freaking ignorant arrogant malicious embarassment to our country. lark May 2017 #3
My, what a swift reaction by our NATO friends. Unbelievably fast reaction. Mr. Ected May 2017 #4
Just wait a little while and they'll send Spicey out to tell us what he really meant. Arkansas Granny May 2017 #6
I really want to hear their explanation! Kittycow May 2017 #15
someone PLEASE explain to Trump how NATO works! Else You Are Mad May 2017 #5
I'm sure it's been explained to him repeatedly. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #53
Maybe he set up a PayPal account. madaboutharry May 2017 #8
He'll forward it to a Nigerian prince via Western Union. Kittycow May 2017 #16
no wonder he's not having press conferences as they'd question him on this fairytale. KewlKat May 2017 #9
Source: Politico yemenpres1 May 2017 #10
More fodder Turbineguy May 2017 #11
was a GoFundMe NATO account onethatcares May 2017 #12
Ok you made me chuckle. JTFrog May 2017 #30
money is beginning to pour in d_r May 2017 #13
Yeah, he personally set up the GoFundMeNATO thing Zambero May 2017 #17
I guess Don the Con has a back channel connection--- Grammy23 May 2017 #18
Yes the Trump Shakedown is underway bucolic_frolic May 2017 #19
Yup. He's going to get coal miners jobs with it and then pay for the wall with the rest. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #20
"Jared, did you check the balance due for NATO this morning? Did they wire me any money?" dalton99a May 2017 #23
Perfect! That's it exactly! NurseJackie May 2017 #24
Setting up payment plans?? Bawhahhahahaaaaaaa...... Bengus81 May 2017 #25
Rule #1: Trumpy LIES about everything. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #26
Pour into where? What payments? The man is the biggest pile of bulls**t in the world. sinkingfeeling May 2017 #27
"...Over the last eight years, the United States spent more on defense than all other NATO countries pangaia May 2017 #31
And Mexico is paying for the wall Progressive dog May 2017 #32
No words... onecaliberal May 2017 #33
He said the SAME thing in speech to Congress on 2/28: deurbano May 2017 #34
Congenital liar makes up shit as he goes dalton99a May 2017 #35
Thanks for the citation, Trump's "NATO money pouring in" lie sounded very familiar stuffmatters May 2017 #41
They were stuffing money in his pockets as he pushed them Alice11111 May 2017 #36
You'd think someone from the Hyper-power . . FairWinds May 2017 #38
He's such a liar wryter2000 May 2017 #39
Next up on the agenda: TexasTowelie May 2017 #40
Great! FormerOstrich May 2017 #42
Idiot Solly Mack May 2017 #43
Show us the Benjamins, Donald. keithbvadu2 May 2017 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M May 2017 #47
Staffers are just leaving bags of monopoly money on his desk Bradical79 May 2017 #50
He IS a freaking liar, and this IS total bullshit, but his followers will believe every word of it Squinch May 2017 #51
He'll soon have nothing more to say about the matter after he is called out on it. CentralMass May 2017 #52
Does he mean the spending-increase that started under Obama? DetlefK May 2017 #54
Bull. Shit. DinahMoeHum May 2017 #55

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
1. Hahaha. Yeah, that's right. In 24 hours its completely different.
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:38 AM
May 2017

Well good, cause now Don the Con can go back to saving those Carrier jobs that are walking across the border again now that the cameras are off.

MissKat

(218 posts)
28. Exactly Pholus
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:46 AM
May 2017

and while he's at it, Trump can go and open up all the coal mines like he promised. And when he does that he can rebuild the steel mills and factories like he said he would. And how about that new health insurance plan that would be so wonderful everyone could afford it and everyone could see their doctor and get all the medications they need. And men and women would stop getting divorces...oh wait, that's his family planning program...forget that one. Forget about everything. Cause the Trump name will soon be TRASH.

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
45. Yep.
Sun May 28, 2017, 05:12 PM
May 2017

Where is it pouring into? Have they increased their military spending on their own military since last night, because 45 said to do that?

Where does he think this money GOES?

pandr32

(11,555 posts)
14. He is just making stuff up for his base
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:01 AM
May 2017

...most of who don't know any better and/or believe he can get the impossible done because of his legendary business prowess (in his own mind and theirs).

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
29. That's all he needs to say to his base who will respond thusly
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:56 AM
May 2017

"dRump said it, I believe it, and that settles it."

Nothing like playing to a crowd that wants to be ruled rather than governed, that prefers an authoritarian figure to tell them what to think rather than taking responsibility for thinking themselves.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
21. Likewise, no NATO or member money is paid to the US.
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:20 AM
May 2017

{excerpt}Trump {suggested} they owe “massive amounts” in back payments to the U.S. under the umbrella of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.{/excerpt}

lark

(23,065 posts)
3. He;s a freaking ignorant arrogant malicious embarassment to our country.
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

he has no idea of what he's talking about, he doesn't care enough to find out truth. He just wants a reality where he cheats and manipulates more $ for himself and family. Willing to kill our country and the world for promises/threats from Russia, only aside from the election, Putin will not deliver except maybe a body bag.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. My, what a swift reaction by our NATO friends. Unbelievably fast reaction.
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

We want more facts, Mr. Trump. Which countries? How much? And how do you know this, as you seem to be asleep and disinterested in every photo and video we see of you on your most awesome trip?

I'm calling bullshit. Fake news.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
6. Just wait a little while and they'll send Spicey out to tell us what he really meant.
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:46 AM
May 2017

What an embarrassment.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
5. someone PLEASE explain to Trump how NATO works!
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:45 AM
May 2017

He is an embarrassment! All Trump has to do is read Wikipedia and he would understand that the NATO allies do not cut checks directly to any organization or the US.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,596 posts)
53. I'm sure it's been explained to him repeatedly.
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:28 PM
May 2017

And probably by the Secretary General, with whom he met a few weeks ago (and after that conversation he announced that NATO was "no longer obsolete" as he had declared during the campaign). It doesn't matter what he's told; he has his own facts that suit him. And it suits him to believe, or at least to announce, that NATO owes the US a lot of money and his visit convinced them to start paying up.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
8. Maybe he set up a PayPal account.
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:49 AM
May 2017

"NATO countries can now pay their NATO bills through PayPal. We are dedicated to making you deadbeats pay up. #MAGA!"

yemenpres1

(6 posts)
10. Source: Politico
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:52 AM
May 2017

Source: Politico Com on brother .you need to work more
“Over the last eight years, the United States spent more on defense than all other NATO countries combined,” he declared as the leaders of other NATO member countries looked on uncomfortably.
that's wrong !

onethatcares

(16,162 posts)
12. was a GoFundMe NATO account
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:57 AM
May 2017

setup while we weren't looking?

I wonder who writes the checks he said are pouring in?

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
17. Yeah, he personally set up the GoFundMeNATO thing
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:08 AM
May 2017

And those allied leaders have been pouring in the dough like there's no tomorrow. Why, even Russia is kicking in some rubles (Thanks Jared. The hotline is working great!). They all had such noddingly agreeable looks on their faces during that epic speech. Small surprise that they would jump-to this quickly!


Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
18. I guess Don the Con has a back channel connection---
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

to keep tabs on those NATO funds pouring in. Just one harsh speech from him was all it took. And voila! Gee thanks, Cheeto. If only we'd known.....

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
25. Setting up payment plans?? Bawhahhahahaaaaaaa......
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

Let me guess...At favorable rates! That clown can't stop LYING 24/7,it's in his DNA.

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
27. Pour into where? What payments? The man is the biggest pile of bulls**t in the world.
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:45 AM
May 2017

NATO'S member countries pay into defense budgets. They don't owe the US a dime.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. "...Over the last eight years, the United States spent more on defense than all other NATO countries
Sat May 27, 2017, 11:11 AM
May 2017

combined.."

Right there is the fucking problem.

What a waste of useful resources....

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
34. He said the SAME thing in speech to Congress on 2/28:
Sat May 27, 2017, 11:24 AM
May 2017
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/02/28/fact-checking-president-trump-speech-congress/LzIQpLRmBzUkH1OOCXKAdJ/story.html

By Calvin Woodward and Christopher S. Rugaber ASSOCIATED PRESS MARCH 01, 2017

"Fact-checking President Trump’s speech to Congress"

<<TRUMP: Speaking of the NATO alliance, ‘‘Our partners must meet their financial obligations. And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that. In fact, I can tell you the money is pouring in. Very nice. Very nice.’’

THE FACTS: No new money has come pouring in from NATO allies....>>
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
38. You'd think someone from the Hyper-power . .
Sat May 27, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

would maybe apologize just a little bit for dragging NATO
into two endless and unwinnable wars, needlessly spilling
the European blood.

I'm really not a fan of NATO, or what the US does with it.

Something to reflect upon over Memorial Day weekend.

Veterans For Peace

FormerOstrich

(2,699 posts)
42. Great!
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:32 PM
May 2017

So the US will be cutting military spending now that the money from NATO is pouring in.

After all isn't that implied? Countries aren't paying their share at US taxpayer expense, right? Therefore, other countries spend more and US can spend less.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
50. Staffers are just leaving bags of monopoly money on his desk
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:06 PM
May 2017

claiming it's the NATO payments so he doesn't flip out.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
51. He IS a freaking liar, and this IS total bullshit, but his followers will believe every word of it
Mon May 29, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

and it will become one of the reasons why they think he's so great.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
54. Does he mean the spending-increase that started under Obama?
Mon May 29, 2017, 02:48 PM
May 2017

- "NATO-countries are not spending enough for defense!"
- "Dude, we are already ramping up our defense-spending and will get at 2% in 2020."
- "I did that!"

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