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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:57 PM Jun 2017

Man tries to marry his laptop (again) in attempt to kill same-sex marriage

Source: LGBTQ Nation



By Jeff Taylor · Thursday, June 1, 2017

Marriage equality has been the law of the land for almost two years, but not everyone is ready to accept settled law. One man, Chris Sevier, has been trying to defeat same-sex marriage with an ongoing campaign to try to marry his laptop.

In the latest development, the Utah Attorney General’s Office was forced to state in a new court ruling that there is no constitutional right to marry a laptop, KSTU-TV reports. Lawyers for the state asked a federal judge to dismiss the suit, filed against Governor Gary Herbert, Attorney General Sean Reyes, and Utah County Clerk Bryan Thompson.

“These claims are untenable as a matter of law because Plaintiffs lack standing to bring these claims and the right to marry has not been indefinitely expanded, nor should it be. Simply put, marrying a laptop computer or multiple partners are not rights protected by the Constitution,” assistant Utah Attorney General David Wolf wrote in the filing. Wolf noted that a federal judge cannot overturn a Supreme Court ruling, which is not possible, as well as pointing out that a laptop cannot consent to marriage, and that “unless Sevier’s computer has attained the age of fifteen it is too young to marry under Utah law.”

He amended his most recent lawsuit in Utah to include John Gunter, Jr. and Whitney Kohl, who want the right to enter into a polygamous marriage. The state argued that there polygamous communities can bring harm to women and that it “violates norms of gender equality and is rooted in deeply patriarchal principles.”

Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/man-tries-marry-laptop-yet-attempt-kill-sex-marriage/

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Man tries to marry his laptop (again) in attempt to kill same-sex marriage (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
Just curious - Did people try this nonsense after Loving v Virginia? ck4829 Jun 2017 #1
If they'd had laptops, they would have. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #2
Those sexy laptops ck4829 Jun 2017 #3
with their smooth, slick, hairless...frames Ken Burch Jun 2017 #24
One guess crazycatlady Jun 2017 #45
They tried lots of nonsense IronLionZion Jun 2017 #9
The families would never get along. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #30
Sort of... at least, there was an attempt to marry a horse in Boulder County. politicat Jun 2017 #41
If I were a Judge and he came before me a second time... yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #4
some people are just wired differently nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #5
The guy definitely has a software problem Ken Burch Jun 2017 #31
Heck, let him try. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #39
It seems that conservatives want to marry inanimate objects and animals (Frothy Santorum). keithbvadu2 Jun 2017 #34
What are the odds he spends hours every day jacking off to porn Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #6
Yes, I say let him marry his damn laptop. Marie Marie Jun 2017 #32
I just proposed to Siri, on a lark. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #40
My Thought Exactly Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #44
This explains their proclivity for pedophilia. Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #7
That's ridiculous. Laptops aren't human beings, or even organic. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #8
Honeycombe, you simply do not understand conservatism if you ask that jmowreader Jun 2017 #13
I say let him marry his laptop. William769 Jun 2017 #10
He should marry an old smart phone; it could consent with the right app installed. Towlie Jun 2017 #11
Me and my laptop tazkcmo Jun 2017 #12
Cortana... Plucketeer Jun 2017 #14
A while back some other conservative wanted to marry a lawnmower. trusty elf Jun 2017 #15
Did he ever think about what it would mean to consummate the marriage? SwissTony Jun 2017 #29
Can He Show the Laptop has Given Consent? Wolf Frankula Jun 2017 #16
I suspect the argument to that would then jump over to polygamy xor Jun 2017 #27
These people are true, conforming assholes SpankMe Jun 2017 #17
Republicans don't realize that women are people. athena Jun 2017 #18
Ah. You've nailed it. Kber Jun 2017 #23
Laptops can't consent. End of case. haele Jun 2017 #19
Yes, because we all know maxrandb Jun 2017 #20
Sad Freepers maxrandb Jun 2017 #21
This is only rational and defensible maxrandb Jun 2017 #22
Utah Assistant AG said if the computer were 15 years old it would reach the age of consent marylandblue Jun 2017 #25
What happened to marrying you box turtle. Repukes give up on that one? n/t Bengus81 Jun 2017 #26
did they give up on the box turtle? Skittles Jun 2017 #28
result of a sexy LAP top DANCE dembotoz Jun 2017 #33
Old cartoon (Shoe?) - He had to give up his laptop. - It got too user friendly. keithbvadu2 Jun 2017 #35
Easy to see who has the brains Marthe48 Jun 2017 #36
If he could legally marry his laptop ... surrealAmerican Jun 2017 #37
Oh No! moonseller66 Jun 2017 #38
what operating system is on his laptop? Locrian Jun 2017 #42
Let him marry the laptop. When it dies we can charge him with murder. Vinca Jun 2017 #43
the judge should demand he consummate it before granting the license yurbud Jun 2017 #46
Sounds like one repressed dude. roamer65 Jun 2017 #47

ck4829

(35,042 posts)
1. Just curious - Did people try this nonsense after Loving v Virginia?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jun 2017

I really doubt all people just accepted it, as racism was and still is a serious issue, but I can't find anything about clerks trying to circumvent the law or people marrying objects as a "protest."

Gosh, maybe we had an uptick in people who are just, for lack of a better word, awful people since then.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. with their smooth, slick, hairless...frames
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jun 2017

Last edited Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

(or so I've heard...I'm just friends with MY laptop, and only type on it with its consent).

IronLionZion

(45,409 posts)
9. They tried lots of nonsense
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:35 PM
Jun 2017

including the difficulty of enforcing segregation when people are ethnically ambiguous. New Orleans transit gave up because they had too many mixed people.

And some did claim that it was a slippery slope towards the horrifying prospect of same sex marriage, plural marriage, and child marriage. Please, think of the poor suffering children....

One of the biggest reasons against these types of marriages was they really did NOT want non-white spouses to get benefits like veterans benefits, land and property from a deceased spouse, social security, health insurance, etc. The thought of WW2 veterans benefits going to an undeserving black woman bothered a lot of racist idiots.

Similar stuff is behind the opposition to gay marriage. Some bigots are fine with people loving whoever they want, but not have to legally provide them with tax-funded benefits.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
41. Sort of... at least, there was an attempt to marry a horse in Boulder County.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jun 2017

In 1975. The County Clerk started issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples then, because the state law didn't say she couldn't, and the DA agreed. In protest, some dude came in with his horse. She rejected that one on the grounds that the horse was a minor, eight years old, and would require parental permission.

She wrote an article for Esquire about it: http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a45723/clela-rorex-same-sex-marriage-colorado/

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
4. If I were a Judge and he came before me a second time...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

I would fine him for wasting taxpayer's money and time, just sayin'!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
7. This explains their proclivity for pedophilia.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jun 2017

They are completely unclear about what a "consenting adult" is.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. That's ridiculous. Laptops aren't human beings, or even organic.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jun 2017

Stupid guy wasting the govt's resources on nonsense. Why do people care who other people marry, anyway, as long as it's not a minor and is in accordance with our monogamy laws?

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
13. Honeycombe, you simply do not understand conservatism if you ask that
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

A Conservative is someone who believes everyone has the absolute right to live the way the Conservative wants them to.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. Cortana...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jun 2017

could we just dine in this evening - and then get entwined on the couch afterwards? Cortana?

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
16. Can He Show the Laptop has Given Consent?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jun 2017

Is the laptop old enough to marry? If the answer to both questions is 'No', as I suspect they will be, then he should not be allowed to marry it. It is an underage, non-consenting laptop. He belongs in jail.

Wolf

xor

(1,204 posts)
27. I suspect the argument to that would then jump over to polygamy
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:12 PM
Jun 2017

Where they will ask if that's acceptable since the people involved would be of age and able to consent. The laptop thing is ridiculous and easy to dismiss. I'm not sure it's as easy to be consistent when it comes to polygamy if you desire to keep that illegal. Yes, there are issues of control, gender equality, etc, but those are also issues that come up when speaking of religious dress requirements for women. More specifically with Islam being the most debated and discussed at this time. I think we can all see how this discussion would play out if discussing this someone who isn't just a partisan parrot (as in, they have some ability to debate dynamically)

Touchy subjects that are hard to have on a public forum because not everyone can appreciate having 'hard discussion' in which people explore the topic and learn. And it's hard to untie the touchy topics from each other because they rely on the same underlying principles. I think.

Just to be clear. I believe people should be able to marry any consenting human adult as they wish. That includes gay marriage and even polygamy. Adults can make their own decisions about their lives when it comes to relationships, religion, and politics. That being said, the reality is that some women (and men) will be stuck in these situations, and I think the best hope for them to encourage outside organizations that can help these people escape those situations when they are ready.

Anyway, went off on tangent, didn't I?

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
17. These people are true, conforming assholes
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jun 2017

It's not that same sex marriage is specifically protected by the constitution. Rather, marriage equality is largely protected by the "equal protection" clause of the 14th amendment.

If everyone else was allowed to marry their laptops, but this guy was banned from marrying his laptop, then he has a case.

But, since no one may marry a laptop, I'm afraid he's out of luck.

I bet he didn't wait for marriage to have sex with the thing, though.

athena

(4,187 posts)
18. Republicans don't realize that women are people.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jun 2017

They insist on seeing women as objects. Or as incubators. Or as robots that do the cooking and cleaning. That's why this person has so much trouble distinguishing a woman from a laptop. I bet his problem is not with two people of the same gender getting married as much as it is with two *people* getting married, or two *objects* getting married.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
23. Ah. You've nailed it.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:52 PM
Jun 2017

Here I was wondering why this was even an issue when an object is obviously not able to consent. But in their world view a woman's consent is about as relevant as a lawn mower's so what's the difference.

haele

(12,645 posts)
19. Laptops can't consent. End of case.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jun 2017

As to his polygamous request - bigamy is a legal nightmare when it comes to property and marital law - how would the law determine the primary spouse(s) responsible for the majority of the property and family relationships? Is the family like a BoD or a personal partnership? How would the law handle "secondary" spouses or some form of lesser partner who ? Who could be held responsible for any offspring, what happens in divorce or when one of the spouses wish to leave the marriage? Does the "divorcing" spouse buy out for breaking the partnership, or does the family buy the divorcing partner out?

Constitutionally, people can't be considered "property" - not children, not employees, not spouses; members of any partnership are not supposed to be property of some determined "senior" partner.
That's one of the reasons that divorce cannot be banned in the U.S, as well as why arranged marriages aren't protected and certainly not sacrosanct under the law should one or both of the people who are were . You can't force someone to remain in servitude just because at one time, they - or their parents if underaged - agreed to it and signed their names on some sort of contract.

All of this is why the states prefer to maintain marriage as a legal dyad - be it between a legally adult and consenting pair comprising of man and woman, man and man, woman and woman. The dyad makes it easy to determine legal equity should something happen to the relationship.

Haele

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
20. Yes, because we all know
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jun 2017

that a same sex partner has all the compassion, empathy, understanding and human qualities of a FUCKING laptop

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
21. Sad Freepers
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jun 2017

they've been jerking off in front of their computers for years. What are they going to do now?

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
22. This is only rational and defensible
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jun 2017

if you see your marriage partner solely as an "object"....errrr, uhhhh, wait....NEVERMIND!

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
25. Utah Assistant AG said if the computer were 15 years old it would reach the age of consent
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jun 2017

So that means I can marry my old car! I really loved that car. It must be in some junk heap waiting for me to come back and rescue her.

Marthe48

(16,927 posts)
36. Easy to see who has the brains
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jun 2017

in this 'relationship'.


Guess he's heard enough "not if you were the last man on Earth."

surrealAmerican

(11,359 posts)
37. If he could legally marry his laptop ...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017

... wouldn't his current ownership and use of the laptop be slavery?

moonseller66

(430 posts)
38. Oh No!
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jun 2017

Maybe he hasn't really thought this out! I mean:

Think of the virus problems.
Pre-existing conditions?
Security concerns?
What about updates?
Battery replacement? Who pays for that health care?
Fading and replacement memory?
Power outages?
Will she/he/it only be used by him? Legality of sharing?
Will he beat on her/him/it if suddenly there's a glitch or he doesn't get his mail?
What about divorce? Who gets custody of what?
Will there be pictures and/or audio to worry about in case of a divorce?

These and many more questions should be looked into by the Utah authorities.

I'm pretty sure this comment was sarcastic.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
42. what operating system is on his laptop?
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:45 AM
Jun 2017

Oldie but a goodie... a little sexist, but still...


System 7 is like going out on a bad date. Your date is expensive and at the end of the night you don't even get a good-night kiss.

DOS is like going out with an ugly girl except you know what your up against, so you can work around it.

Windows is like going out with the same ugly girl but this time she is wearing make-up.

Linux is like going out with an ugly girl but you tell all your friends she is pretty.

Unix is like going out with a ugly girl but she is good in bed.

OS/2 is like going out with a beautiful girl but you have to be well endowed to get anywhere.

NeXT is like going out with a super model only to find out she speaks another language and only she knows that language.

VMS is like going out with your Mom.

Chicago is like going out on a blind date. All your friends hype her up and say that she is better than anyone else you have dated but in the end she turns out to be ugly.

NT is like trying going out with snobby girl. No matter how endowed and rich you are, it is not enough to get her to go out with you.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
47. Sounds like one repressed dude.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jun 2017

He should just go kiss a guy and get all of this hate out of his system.

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