Man tries to marry his laptop (again) in attempt to kill same-sex marriage
Source: LGBTQ Nation
By Jeff Taylor · Thursday, June 1, 2017
Marriage equality has been the law of the land for almost two years, but not everyone is ready to accept settled law. One man, Chris Sevier, has been trying to defeat same-sex marriage with an ongoing campaign to try to marry his laptop.
In the latest development, the Utah Attorney Generals Office was forced to state in a new court ruling that there is no constitutional right to marry a laptop, KSTU-TV reports. Lawyers for the state asked a federal judge to dismiss the suit, filed against Governor Gary Herbert, Attorney General Sean Reyes, and Utah County Clerk Bryan Thompson.
These claims are untenable as a matter of law because Plaintiffs lack standing to bring these claims and the right to marry has not been indefinitely expanded, nor should it be. Simply put, marrying a laptop computer or multiple partners are not rights protected by the Constitution, assistant Utah Attorney General David Wolf wrote in the filing. Wolf noted that a federal judge cannot overturn a Supreme Court ruling, which is not possible, as well as pointing out that a laptop cannot consent to marriage, and that unless Seviers computer has attained the age of fifteen it is too young to marry under Utah law.
He amended his most recent lawsuit in Utah to include John Gunter, Jr. and Whitney Kohl, who want the right to enter into a polygamous marriage. The state argued that there polygamous communities can bring harm to women and that it violates norms of gender equality and is rooted in deeply patriarchal principles.
Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/man-tries-marry-laptop-yet-attempt-kill-sex-marriage/
ck4829
(35,042 posts)I really doubt all people just accepted it, as racism was and still is a serious issue, but I can't find anything about clerks trying to circumvent the law or people marrying objects as a "protest."
Gosh, maybe we had an uptick in people who are just, for lack of a better word, awful people since then.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)ck4829
(35,042 posts)Ken Burch
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(or so I've heard...I'm just friends with MY laptop, and only type on it with its consent).
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)This guy's laptop is the source of any 'action' that he gets.
IronLionZion
(45,409 posts)including the difficulty of enforcing segregation when people are ethnically ambiguous. New Orleans transit gave up because they had too many mixed people.
And some did claim that it was a slippery slope towards the horrifying prospect of same sex marriage, plural marriage, and child marriage. Please, think of the poor suffering children....
One of the biggest reasons against these types of marriages was they really did NOT want non-white spouses to get benefits like veterans benefits, land and property from a deceased spouse, social security, health insurance, etc. The thought of WW2 veterans benefits going to an undeserving black woman bothered a lot of racist idiots.
Similar stuff is behind the opposition to gay marriage. Some bigots are fine with people loving whoever they want, but not have to legally provide them with tax-funded benefits.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And we'd end up with Bill Gates giving away the "bride".
politicat
(9,808 posts)In 1975. The County Clerk started issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples then, because the state law didn't say she couldn't, and the DA agreed. In protest, some dude came in with his horse. She rejected that one on the grounds that the horse was a minor, eight years old, and would require parental permission.
She wrote an article for Esquire about it: http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a45723/clela-rorex-same-sex-marriage-colorado/
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I would fine him for wasting taxpayer's money and time, just sayin'!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)maybe some malware or a virus.
forgotmylogin
(7,523 posts)An inanimate object cannot sign a license, nor give consent.
keithbvadu2
(36,727 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)in front of that very same laptop?
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)It's probably the closet thing to sex he'll ever get.
forgotmylogin
(7,523 posts)Response "I'm not the marrying kind, thanks."
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)I'd guess about 50% of male ejaculations today occur in front of computer screens.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)They are completely unclear about what a "consenting adult" is.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Stupid guy wasting the govt's resources on nonsense. Why do people care who other people marry, anyway, as long as it's not a minor and is in accordance with our monogamy laws?
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)A Conservative is someone who believes everyone has the absolute right to live the way the Conservative wants them to.
William769
(55,144 posts)It will be an electrifying experience.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)live in sin.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)could we just dine in this evening - and then get entwined on the couch afterwards? Cortana?
trusty elf
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SwissTony
(2,560 posts)Hurty hurty pain pain.
Wolf Frankula
(3,600 posts)Is the laptop old enough to marry? If the answer to both questions is 'No', as I suspect they will be, then he should not be allowed to marry it. It is an underage, non-consenting laptop. He belongs in jail.
Wolf
xor
(1,204 posts)Where they will ask if that's acceptable since the people involved would be of age and able to consent. The laptop thing is ridiculous and easy to dismiss. I'm not sure it's as easy to be consistent when it comes to polygamy if you desire to keep that illegal. Yes, there are issues of control, gender equality, etc, but those are also issues that come up when speaking of religious dress requirements for women. More specifically with Islam being the most debated and discussed at this time. I think we can all see how this discussion would play out if discussing this someone who isn't just a partisan parrot (as in, they have some ability to debate dynamically)
Touchy subjects that are hard to have on a public forum because not everyone can appreciate having 'hard discussion' in which people explore the topic and learn. And it's hard to untie the touchy topics from each other because they rely on the same underlying principles. I think.
Just to be clear. I believe people should be able to marry any consenting human adult as they wish. That includes gay marriage and even polygamy. Adults can make their own decisions about their lives when it comes to relationships, religion, and politics. That being said, the reality is that some women (and men) will be stuck in these situations, and I think the best hope for them to encourage outside organizations that can help these people escape those situations when they are ready.
Anyway, went off on tangent, didn't I?
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)It's not that same sex marriage is specifically protected by the constitution. Rather, marriage equality is largely protected by the "equal protection" clause of the 14th amendment.
If everyone else was allowed to marry their laptops, but this guy was banned from marrying his laptop, then he has a case.
But, since no one may marry a laptop, I'm afraid he's out of luck.
I bet he didn't wait for marriage to have sex with the thing, though.
athena
(4,187 posts)They insist on seeing women as objects. Or as incubators. Or as robots that do the cooking and cleaning. That's why this person has so much trouble distinguishing a woman from a laptop. I bet his problem is not with two people of the same gender getting married as much as it is with two *people* getting married, or two *objects* getting married.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Here I was wondering why this was even an issue when an object is obviously not able to consent. But in their world view a woman's consent is about as relevant as a lawn mower's so what's the difference.
haele
(12,645 posts)As to his polygamous request - bigamy is a legal nightmare when it comes to property and marital law - how would the law determine the primary spouse(s) responsible for the majority of the property and family relationships? Is the family like a BoD or a personal partnership? How would the law handle "secondary" spouses or some form of lesser partner who ? Who could be held responsible for any offspring, what happens in divorce or when one of the spouses wish to leave the marriage? Does the "divorcing" spouse buy out for breaking the partnership, or does the family buy the divorcing partner out?
Constitutionally, people can't be considered "property" - not children, not employees, not spouses; members of any partnership are not supposed to be property of some determined "senior" partner.
That's one of the reasons that divorce cannot be banned in the U.S, as well as why arranged marriages aren't protected and certainly not sacrosanct under the law should one or both of the people who are were . You can't force someone to remain in servitude just because at one time, they - or their parents if underaged - agreed to it and signed their names on some sort of contract.
All of this is why the states prefer to maintain marriage as a legal dyad - be it between a legally adult and consenting pair comprising of man and woman, man and man, woman and woman. The dyad makes it easy to determine legal equity should something happen to the relationship.
Haele
maxrandb
(15,316 posts)that a same sex partner has all the compassion, empathy, understanding and human qualities of a FUCKING laptop
maxrandb
(15,316 posts)they've been jerking off in front of their computers for years. What are they going to do now?
maxrandb
(15,316 posts)if you see your marriage partner solely as an "object"....errrr, uhhhh, wait....NEVERMIND!
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)So that means I can marry my old car! I really loved that car. It must be in some junk heap waiting for me to come back and rescue her.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Skittles
(153,138 posts)dembotoz
(16,797 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,727 posts)Marthe48
(16,927 posts)in this 'relationship'.
Guess he's heard enough "not if you were the last man on Earth."
surrealAmerican
(11,359 posts)... wouldn't his current ownership and use of the laptop be slavery?
moonseller66
(430 posts)Maybe he hasn't really thought this out! I mean:
Think of the virus problems.
Pre-existing conditions?
Security concerns?
What about updates?
Battery replacement? Who pays for that health care?
Fading and replacement memory?
Power outages?
Will she/he/it only be used by him? Legality of sharing?
Will he beat on her/him/it if suddenly there's a glitch or he doesn't get his mail?
What about divorce? Who gets custody of what?
Will there be pictures and/or audio to worry about in case of a divorce?
These and many more questions should be looked into by the Utah authorities.
I'm pretty sure this comment was sarcastic.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Oldie but a goodie... a little sexist, but still...
System 7 is like going out on a bad date. Your date is expensive and at the end of the night you don't even get a good-night kiss.
DOS is like going out with an ugly girl except you know what your up against, so you can work around it.
Windows is like going out with the same ugly girl but this time she is wearing make-up.
Linux is like going out with an ugly girl but you tell all your friends she is pretty.
Unix is like going out with a ugly girl but she is good in bed.
OS/2 is like going out with a beautiful girl but you have to be well endowed to get anywhere.
NeXT is like going out with a super model only to find out she speaks another language and only she knows that language.
VMS is like going out with your Mom.
Chicago is like going out on a blind date. All your friends hype her up and say that she is better than anyone else you have dated but in the end she turns out to be ugly.
NT is like trying going out with snobby girl. No matter how endowed and rich you are, it is not enough to get her to go out with you.
Vinca
(50,253 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)He should just go kiss a guy and get all of this hate out of his system.