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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:54 PM Jun 2017

Trump to pull U.S. from historic Paris climate agreement breaking ranks with more than 190 countries

Source: The Washington Post

By Washington Post Staff June 1 at 2:47 PM

President Trump will make good on a campaign promise to cancel the Paris climate agreement, officials say, breaking away from a global effort to reduce greenhouse gases.

The decision followed an intense struggle within the administration over the fate of the agreement, with Ivanka Trump, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and business leaders urging the president to remain a party to the accord, and conservatives such as Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt calling for an exit.

Business leaders including Apple's Tim Cook and Teslas Elon Musk had also lobbied Trump, arguing that the Paris accord's "bottom-up" approach gave the U.S. latitude to adjust its targets and remain within the agreement. The United States will join two other nations Syria and Nicaragua in the U.N. climate group that do not participate in the accord.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/01/trump-to-pull-u-s-from-historic-paris-climate-agreement-breaking-ranks-with-more-than-190-countries/



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UPDATE:

Trump to announce U.S. will exit Paris climate deal

By Philip Rucker and Chris Mooney June 1 at 2:49 PM
President Trump will announce Thursday afternoon that he is withdrawing the United States from the landmark Paris climate agreement, the White House has told allies, a move that honors a campaign promise but risks rupturing global alliances and disappointing both environmentalists and corporate titans.

The Paris Accord is a BAD deal for Americans, and the Presidents action today is keeping his campaign promise to put American workers first, read a White House memo to supporters explaing the presidents decision. The Accord was negotiated poorly by the Obama Administration and signed out of desperation.

The U.S. exit from the climate pact could raise doubts about the commitment of the worlds largest economy to curbing global warming and make it more difficult to hold other nations to their environmental commitments.

All but two countries Nicaragua and Syria signed onto the 2015 accord, which was a signature diplomatic achievement for President Barack Obama.

The Paris agreement has long divided the Trump administration, with the president taking much of the spring to make up his mind amid an intense campaign by both sides to influence his decision.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-announce-us-will-exit-paris-climate-deal/2017/06/01/fbcb0196-46da-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html

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UPDATE 2

‘We’re Getting Out’: Trump Announces Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord

By MATT SHUHAM Published JUNE 1, 2017 3:43 PM
President Donald Trump announced Thursday that the U.S. will withdraw from the Paris climate accord, making America one of three countries not to participate in the historic agreement to combat climate change.

“In order to fulfill my solemn duty to protect America and its citizens, the United States will withdraw from the Paris climate accord,” Trump said in the White House Rose Garden. “But begin negotiations to re-enter either the Paris accord or a, really, entirely new transaction on terms that are fair to the United States, its businesses, its workers, its people, its taxpayers.”

“So we’re getting out, but we will start to negotiate and we will see if we can make a deal that’s fair,” he continued. “And if we can, that’s great. And if we can’t, that’s fine.”

The President complained about China and India’s own stated emissions targets under the deal, saying they were unfair to the United States. And he suggested that the rest of the world had duped the United States into signing onto the deal — which the United States itself, under President Barack Obama, was instrumental in establishing — in order to deal an economic blow.

“This agreement is less about the climate and more about other countries gaining a financial advantage over the United States,” he said. “The rest of the world applauded when we signed the Paris Agreement. They went wild. They were so happy, for the simple reason that it put our country, the United States of America, which we all love, at a very, very big economic disadvantage.”

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Trump to pull U.S. from historic Paris climate agreement breaking ranks with more than 190 countries (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
You JUST beat me to it. Really really bad move. underpants Jun 2017 #1
Rather some of the world will survive while we choose to dawdle and drown in sewage hatrack Jun 2017 #3
Unfortunately mother nature will not focus her wrath at us. The whole planet will pay for this. briv1016 Jun 2017 #29
Yes, BUT! Note, this wouldn't make much difference until 2020. Hortensis Jun 2017 #44
Trying to eradicate everything Obama. spiderpig Jun 2017 #2
Yes, the one thing he does have focus on. CrispyQ Jun 2017 #37
Horrible move Dopers_Greed Jun 2017 #4
Aren't we the most special assholes on the planet? BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #5
You mean snowflakes? Lithos Jun 2017 #45
I am listening to the right-wing talking points/excuses on CNN XM radio. janx Jun 2017 #6
Let me guess... Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #34
trump is a p.o.s Marthe48 Jun 2017 #7
Not me. I hope the Stock Market drops 8,000 points tomorow maxrandb Jun 2017 #19
It's up today. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #31
you mean even T rex told him this was bad DonCoquixote Jun 2017 #8
Good for you Donnie! Please proceed :) GitRDun Jun 2017 #9
It's nice to have dreams. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #35
Look at me! I can do this! Marthe48 Jun 2017 #10
Elon Musk said he would bail from the Business Council if this happened. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #11
And he's gone. Hortensis Jun 2017 #42
Indeed. You are correct. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #46
He tried, and will continue. Just other ways. Hortensis Jun 2017 #49
Boy, this was one I thought he would finally get right. cyndensco Jun 2017 #12
Why would you possibly think he'd do something right? hatrack Jun 2017 #15
...even a clock? cyndensco Jun 2017 #38
His history is of making himself feel supra-powerful Hortensis Jun 2017 #51
Is there normally music in the background at these things? janx Jun 2017 #13
No n/t Locutusofborg Jun 2017 #24
It seemed completely inappropriate. n/t janx Jun 2017 #26
Once he's gone bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #14
This is more than just politics. The fate of the planet is at stake. ginnyinWI Jun 2017 #16
Here's the Livestream OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #17
I think I'll pass . . . hatrack Jun 2017 #18
Let me guess maxrandb Jun 2017 #22
One of the worst decisions in the history of the country. Vinca Jun 2017 #20
So much for Ivanka's moderating influence. Eugene Jun 2017 #21
This will create coal mining jobs, right Twittler? muntrv Jun 2017 #23
Statement by President Obama... brooklynite Jun 2017 #25
Thanks for posting this. I'm furious and ready to chew nails. Nice to read LuckyLib Jun 2017 #32
That's a tremendous statement, dearly needed. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #43
Thanks for posting this LittleGirl Jun 2017 #47
Oh, please, not "principled American leadership" again. /s. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #48
Fuck you Trump and Fuck your base and Fuck the Republican Party mtngirl47 Jun 2017 #27
Better learn fluent Chinese. China is now the world leader for the 21st century. US takes RKP5637 Jun 2017 #28
I think stevil Jun 2017 #30
I don't see how even the most ignorant person wouldn't see how we are losing our status in the world CrispyQ Jun 2017 #33
fdt uppityperson Jun 2017 #36
The unbearable putzness of being a maroon ucrdem Jun 2017 #39
Who the hell... orbitalman Jun 2017 #40
Thanks to Trump voters we'll become a decrepit former super-power like Russia in no time. hunter Jun 2017 #41
Trump is total p.o.s. orangecrush Jun 2017 #50
Like covfefe took our minds off Russia Marthe48 Jun 2017 #52
Stupid GreydeeThos Jun 2017 #53

underpants

(182,788 posts)
1. You JUST beat me to it. Really really bad move.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:55 PM
Jun 2017

The world is going to lap us while we stop to tie our shoe. Analogy I came up with last night.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Yes, BUT! Note, this wouldn't make much difference until 2020.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jun 2017

It's early 2017 now. This is bad, but not disastrous. Not yet.

And a potential up side is that this will put the issue of global warming right back front and center, boiling and spitting. A majority of Americans now believe we were driving straight into a man-made hell and will now be horrified as we continue on.

We're also heading into yet another miserably hot summer, where many people around the nation will be cutting down dying trees, watching their lawns dry up due to water restrictions, and, in hundreds of thousands of cases, realizing for the first time that wild fires could destroy their home. And wondering what they will bequeath their children and grandchildren.

janx

(24,128 posts)
6. I am listening to the right-wing talking points/excuses on CNN XM radio.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jun 2017

The ignorance is astonishing.

Marthe48

(16,945 posts)
7. trump is a p.o.s
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jun 2017

I hope that the corporations who placed the ad in NYT, the shareholders who forced Exxon-Mobile to add information to their stock sales and individuals will move ahead in spite of trump and the hide-bound old bastards like tillerson. They could be the only ones who are stopping to tie their shoes.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
9. Good for you Donnie! Please proceed :)
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:09 PM
Jun 2017

Each and every outrage accelerates a tide that will wash out the Republican party as it exists today to the dustbin of history.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
11. Elon Musk said he would bail from the Business Council if this happened.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jun 2017
MAY 31, 2017 @ 03:42 PM

Elon Musk Says He'll Have 'No Choice' But To Quit Trump Job Forum If U.S. Leaves Paris Climate Accord

Maggie McGrath , FORBES STAFF

When Tesla chief Elon Musk joined President Trump's forum on job creation and economic activity in January, he received so much backlash that by February, he took to Twitter to defend his decision. “Activists should be pushing for more moderates to advise President, not fewer,” he then said. On Wednesday, amid reports that Trump plans to pull the United States out of the landmark Paris Climate Accord, Musk is tweeting about the council again -- but this time, he's threatening to leave it.

On Wednesday morning, reports emerged that Trump is planning to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate deal, a worldwide agreement -- the first of its kind -- to lower greenhouse gas emissions and hold the global temperature to "well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels." While withdrawing from the deal would constitute the fulfillment of a campaign promise, doing so could set off a chain of events that prove ultimately harmful to the environment, as the U.S. is the world's second-largest greenhouse polluter.

"For the U.S. to pull out of the agreement removes us from global discussions that would ultimately benefit our country and the world," Katherine Moore Powell, climate ecologist for Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History, explained in an email Wednesday. "It puts us, and the world, on a path of reacting to disasters rather than preparing for them, and will cost us much more financially."

Billionaire Musk -- an avowed supporter of climate change initiatives -- clearly agrees that withdrawing from the deal is not a good move. Through his Twitter feed, he said Wednesday afternoon that while he doesn't know "which way Paris will go," he's done "all" he can to advise Trump and other members of the White House that the U.S. must remain a part of the 195-nation pact.


Don't know which way Paris will go, but I've done all I can to advise directly to POTUS, through others in WH & via councils, that we remain


mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
46. Indeed. You are correct.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:37 PM
Jun 2017

Wait for it: "Lying crooked Elon. Sad!!!!! Loser!!!"

Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world.


cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
38. ...even a clock?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jun 2017

I hoped he planned this elaborate garden-side meeting to announce he had seen the light and was going to abide by the treaty. Huge companies took out an ad urging him to stay in and MSNBC reported some Hollywood-types were tweeting him to do the same. Even ivanka was reportedly for it.

I thought this was the one.

Never before, never again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. His history is of making himself feel supra-powerful
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jun 2017

by using his power to abuse others. It's all about him. I hoped, but when I heard the tone of his king-of-everything announcement that HE would decide and inform the nation and world of his decision, I suspected that this would be it. Continuing Obama's decision would diminish the importance of his decision.

Observers say he delights in sowing dissension among underlings and also of abusing his power to hurt others, and this just continues that pattern. Plus, these days he's probably developing quite a grudge against not just the people of our nation, but all those national leaders who disrespect him. Hit us so hard! Our heads are spinning.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
16. This is more than just politics. The fate of the planet is at stake.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

My husband read somewhere that if the planet warms beyond a certain tipping point, there is no way to reverse it.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
20. One of the worst decisions in the history of the country.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jun 2017

I rarely think about it, but today I'm very grateful I don't have grandchildren.

Eugene

(61,874 posts)
21. So much for Ivanka's moderating influence.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jun 2017

Even the "adults" like McMaster have bought into
Trump's "the world is a competition arena, not
a communty" mindset.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
32. Thanks for posting this. I'm furious and ready to chew nails. Nice to read
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jun 2017

PBO's thoughtful, reasoned, literate piece.

LittleGirl

(8,285 posts)
47. Thanks for posting this
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:37 PM
Jun 2017

Gawd, I miss that man and his leadership.

FUCK TRUMP, UPSIDE DOWN AND SIDEWAYS. FUCKER

mtngirl47

(988 posts)
27. Fuck you Trump and Fuck your base and Fuck the Republican Party
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jun 2017

(that's as eloquent as I can be right now)

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
28. Better learn fluent Chinese. China is now the world leader for the 21st century. US takes
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jun 2017

a back seat in the back row!

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
33. I don't see how even the most ignorant person wouldn't see how we are losing our status in the world
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jun 2017

& question, "How does that MAGA?"

orbitalman

(1,098 posts)
40. Who the hell...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:20 PM
Jun 2017

does he Think he IS? Jesus, Joseph and Mary. I have nothing but expletives left. Why doesn't he just turn a map of the country upside down and tell us that's the way it is?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
41. Thanks to Trump voters we'll become a decrepit former super-power like Russia in no time.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jun 2017

U.S. industry will now have even less incentive to become global leaders in low carbon / no carbon energy systems.

Trump and his administration are a bunch of backwards looking losers.

Marthe48

(16,945 posts)
52. Like covfefe took our minds off Russia
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jun 2017

unlike covfefe, it's not harmless. Please use the 25th. We can sort it out later.

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