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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:24 AM Jul 2012

ROMNEY DOESN’T KNOW IF HE PAID A TAX RATE LOWER THAN 13.9%

Source: Think Progress

ROMNEY DOESN’T KNOW IF HE PAID A TAX RATE LOWER THAN 13.9% | Mitt Romney has thus far refused to heed the call from a growing number of people within the Republican party to release more tax returns. And during an interview with ABC’s David Muir from Israel, the former Massachusetts governor revealed that the documents may show that he paid very little in taxes:


Emily Friedman@EmilyABC
Romney tells @DavidMuir he doesn't know if there was a year when he paid a tax rate lower than 13.9%. Says he'll have to go back and look.
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ROMNEY DOESN’T KNOW IF HE PAID A TAX RATE LOWER THAN 13.9% (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
Well, he has servants for that. Servants for everything really. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #1
Nothing wrong with having servants, everything wrong with not paying your fair share YewNork Jul 2012 #4
lol Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #8
Why won't more of the American Press ask simple questions like this. swayne Jul 2012 #2
Because they want to keep their job. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #5
I'm with you on that matter... spindetective Jul 2012 #9
Romney must think the entire population is stupid. He knows LibDemAlways Jul 2012 #3
He knows, yes he knows to the penny.. Stuart G Jul 2012 #18
well, WE know his dancing horse got him a $77,000 tax deduction wordpix Jul 2012 #6
under penalty of perjury. lastlib Jul 2012 #15
Willard demos once again that he is totally into Republican Occultism Berlum Jul 2012 #7
And all this time I thought he was a Mormonite. DCKit Jul 2012 #20
Well, I have no idea what tax rate I pay at. SheilaT Jul 2012 #10
"most pepole" aren't running for president on a platform of alleged financial skills. lastlib Jul 2012 #14
For years back? Igel Jul 2012 #21
I could go back to 1994 in a heartbeat.... lastlib Jul 2012 #23
Translation: He has paid ZERO taxes most years and is fervently hoping kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #11
He's lying (again).... lastlib Jul 2012 #12
I've never paid a rate lower than that, and I'm including sales taxes. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #13
Romney the so-called clever business man doesn't know anything about his own money. He must have Maineman Jul 2012 #16
K and R nt. Stuart G Jul 2012 #17
15% Capital Gains Tax Johnny2X2X Jul 2012 #19
Deductions. Igel Jul 2012 #22
Is there anything Mitwit does know? primavera Jul 2012 #24

YewNork

(461 posts)
4. Nothing wrong with having servants, everything wrong with not paying your fair share
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jul 2012

There's nothing wrong with having servants, if you can afford them.

BUT, there's a lot wrong if you're a multi-millionaire who pays a significantly lower percentage of his income in taxes than the majority of taxpaying Americans do.

spindetective

(27 posts)
9. I'm with you on that matter...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jul 2012

I guess it's up to us to 'press the press' to dig deeper through social networking.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
3. Romney must think the entire population is stupid. He knows
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jul 2012

exactly how much he didn't pay in taxes. He used every tax dodge in the book to shelter his obscene wealth while ordinary folks (me for instance) paid 25% or more on incomes that he'd consider pocket change. Government by the wealthy for the wealthy.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
18. He knows, yes he knows to the penny..
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

Another Bold Face Lie..
..Yea, he knows...he doesn't have to "look"

If he is telling the truth on this,
And he can prove it...
Then I'll buy him another horse..thank you..

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
6. well, WE know his dancing horse got him a $77,000 tax deduction
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

Rmoney knows perfectly well how much he's paid in taxes. He has to sign the document, even if it's prepared by others.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/18/1100947/-Romney-Took-77-000-Tax-Deduction-For-His-Dancing-Horse

lastlib

(23,166 posts)
15. under penalty of perjury.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

If he's not looking at them and verifying the information he submits, he is committing a crime.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
7. Willard demos once again that he is totally into Republican Occultism
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jul 2012

Hiding the truth. Adoring Mammon. Ptooooooey on all that,..

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
20. And all this time I thought he was a Mormonite.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:14 AM
Jul 2012

Spell check doesn't like the work "mammonite", I guess.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. Well, I have no idea what tax rate I pay at.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012

I have my taxes done by a professional, I make sure I give him all the little papers that arrive connected to my taxes, sign the thing, and usually write a check. and that's it.

I bet most people, even those who use the short form, really don't know what their overall tax rate is.

lastlib

(23,166 posts)
14. "most pepole" aren't running for president on a platform of alleged financial skills.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jul 2012

(I know mine is pretty close to 22% with all my deductions/exemptions. According to my tax preparer, I don't really make enough money to use a loophole--lol.)

Igel

(35,282 posts)
21. For years back?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:02 AM
Jul 2012

Once I calculated my effective tax rate. and it was really low. For last year it was something like 4.6% for federal income tax. But the numbers are fresh enough in my mind and I know nobody's going to pitch a fit if the real number is 4.5 or 4.7%.

Start with gross income. Minus any deductions for yourself and dependents. Then take the standard deduction or itemize. (We don't itemize.) Don't forget to deduct for any IRA contributions or even just the child tax credit. Of course, those are "loopholes"; it's just that most people think of loopholes as what the other guy uses.

lastlib

(23,166 posts)
23. I could go back to 1994 in a heartbeat....
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

anything older, I would have to go out to the shed and get a box....but I think that would get me back to 1982.

(actually, you're making it a little harder than you need to. Just take the total tax you paid for a given year, and divide it by your taxable income--both are shown on your 1040.)

lastlib

(23,166 posts)
12. He's lying (again)....
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jul 2012

(big news, right?)

What kind of "financial genius" doesn't know the tax rate he's paying on his income?? That's a basic calculation in any kind of financial planning.

Maineman

(854 posts)
16. Romney the so-called clever business man doesn't know anything about his own money. He must have
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jul 2012

hired people to increase his wealth. What a sponge bob!

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
19. 15% Capital Gains Tax
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jul 2012

So how come he's paying 13.9% then? He doesn't even pay his full share of the ridiculously low Capital Gains Tax.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
22. Deductions.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

Personal exemptions, charitable contributions, mortgage and interest paid (if that's still deductible). Things like losses carried over from previous years can ding current year's income. IRA contributions. Add them all up, and you can lose 1.1% even of a pretty hefty dividend-based income.

Gross income minus all the legal deductions is what Congress has defined as "fair." Sad, but true.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
24. Is there anything Mitwit does know?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jul 2012

All he ever seems to say is "I don't know." If he's so clueless, why would he think he should be president? Right: "I don't know."

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