39 million households are paying more for housing than they can afford
Source: CNN
June 16, 2017: 1:28 PM ET
Nearly 39 million households can't afford their housing, according to the annual State of the Nation's Housing Report from Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies.
Experts generally advise budgeting about 30% of monthly income for rent or mortgage costs.
But millions of Americans are far exceeding that guideline.
One-third of households in 2015 were "cost burdened," meaning they spend 30% or more of their incomes to cover housing costs. Of that group, nearly 19 million are paying more than 50% of their income to cover their housing needs.
Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/16/real_estate/rising-home-costs-affordability-harvard/index.html
Here in Canada I spend about 45% of my income on housing (rent). Not sure of the national statistic though.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)for most people but housing costs havent been.
ailsagirl
(22,887 posts)while everything else continues to increase in price
SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)if the government's statistics are to be believed.
I'm retired and living on a fixed income. I have some modest savings and investments (I adore my kids, but they're FOREVER chained to your wallet) salted away for emergencies, and haven't had a COLA in Medicare in.......three or four years? Every year my supplemental insurance premiums increase by at least 20%, and prescription drugs are going through the roof, even Generics.
So don't tell me there isn't any inflation. At this rate I'm going to have to give up living as a cost cutting measure. The GOP certainly doesn't care. They're COUNTING on people, like myself, to die so they can give the wealthy another juicy tax cut. Hey, it's ONLY FAIR, right?
ailsagirl
(22,887 posts)MONSTROUS
Hang in there, SergeStorms-- maybe something good will happen to reverse this awful trend.
I can hope
sandensea
(21,604 posts)cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)and that drives up the cost of housing for miles around so he is essentially screwed.
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)LisaM
(27,794 posts)But yes, flat wages changed that, add to that the absolute lack of attention government is paying to this issue, and it's really a burden. I am constantly petrified of rent increases (after we, luckily, had a place that kept the rent low for a long time before jumping). Buying in Seattle is completely out of the question at the moment.
inanna
(3,547 posts)in Home Economics class in HS.
And when I first left HS, the 25% formula was doable - especially if renting or house-sharing etc.
Now it's next to impossible (round here) to stay within the 30% range - even if sharing.
I consider myself quite lucky that my rent did not go up this year, but it's still too high.
7962
(11,841 posts)Too many people try to keep up with the Joneses & low rates let them borrow for more house.
My friends laughed at me when I told them in 06-07 what was coming. Even write a couple letters to the paper explaining why people were making a huge mistake.
I see it again; a foreclosure hits the market and has 15 contracts on it the first day, more people NOT in housing are building spec homes. Spec homes in the 300K range (VERY high for my area) are being built. Anyone who has a construction skill is booked for 2-3 weeks at least. And so on.
We'll see if I'm right again. I would say by the end of '18 its gonna hit
janx
(24,128 posts)I witnessed it and bought into it for a couple of years. The banks were like casinos, buying and selling loans, and people were taking on adjustable rate mortgages without thinking about the consequences. Then the banks got reined in when Obama was elected, and the reining-in was swift and harsh, as it should have been. I know this because I both bought and refinanced a little house in 2005, and 2007? Under the new rules, lenders had to be very severe when it came to approving loans. I hope there is some kind of middle ground coming, but I'm afraid of the casino floodgates' opening again under this administration.
7962
(11,841 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)iluvtennis
(19,836 posts)..here in CA (at least for me they did) and wouldn't approve anything more than low 30s % for mortgage vis-a-vis income.
janx
(24,128 posts)melm00se
(4,986 posts)are almost always based on the gross
llmart
(15,534 posts)Does that include utilities? Property taxes? House insurance?
None of those things are options. I own my home but when I add up the property taxes, house insurance, home owners monthly dues and utilities (or even without the utilities) it comes to about 30% of what I'll have if I ever decided to retire for good. It's scary for many people who are around my age. I have an IRA which I don't intend to touch until I'm 70 and have to but so many of my friends/acquaintances don't have much savings.
Younger people can't afford the high rents in some places and those are the places where the jobs are.
Seedersandleechers
(3,044 posts)My mortgage includes insurance and property taxes.
llmart
(15,534 posts)not the taxes and insurance?
I guess I'm trying to make a point about the term "housing costs" since there are so many other expenses involved in owning a home. Even if you're a renter you still have utilities.
Housing in this country is just another glaring example of the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)We're on our third house and it's always been put into the escrow account so I would count that as part of my mortgage.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)Taxes and insurance (after our first mortgage) because (a) lenders sometimes screw up the payments (ours did) and (b) they want to earn interest on your escrowed dollars before payments for taxes and insurance are due.
Another big category of expense is maintenance and replacement of elements as they wear out--let alone upgrades and cosmetic changes.
llmart
(15,534 posts)I always pay my property taxes myself. They don't need to hold onto my money and make interest off it. I'd rather do that myself. You just have to be self-disciplined and put the money aside each month so it's there when they come due.
And yes, I've had them mess up my escrow account too.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)I worked for mortgage companies for years. I heard that argument all of the time.
That money has to be held in non interest bearing accts.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)Earn income, whether it's from savings accounts, escrows, etc. That's how banks stay in business. Not allowing the financial institution to make interest on deposits would require them to segregate that money somehow. How exactly does that work?
And, some states require banks to pay consumers interest on their mortgage escrow accounts. How is this fair if banks aren't permitted to earn income themselves on the deposits? See this article, for example:
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/can-bank-keep-escrow-funds-interestbearing-account-81783.html
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)my town is $315,000. That's a lot for someone starting out. Contractors are building condos and apartments like crazy and they are being rented as soon as they are built. I bought my house in 1995 for $98,600, it just appraised for $425,000. I couldn't buy my own house on my income if I had to today.
turbinetree
(24,685 posts)http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/are-we-really-housing-bubble/
And if your "wages" can't keep up....................
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)was less than half of what we were approved for and I am renovating it but even with the cost of improvements I don't think we come close to the 30%. We were closer to that in our old house, but we lived in a much nicer house in a more desirable neighborhood. I think my husband would have a stroke if I told him I wanted to spend half our income on a house lol
groundloop
(11,514 posts)With the cost of everything going up, and wages having been stagnant almost forever, this is a sad reality.
Change2018
(1 post)Many people are in the situation to choose either housing or food...
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)ripcord
(5,284 posts)She has been doing school district payroll as a CSEA member for 28 years and I have been driving as a Teamster for 31, we were able to buy our house in 1987. With current housing prices in the L.A. area I'm not sure we could do it today.
janx
(24,128 posts)One- or two-sentence paragraphs don't do it for me. Yes, I know it's electronic, and yes, I teach this kind of thing, but honestly, this is overly simplistic above and beyond the "chunking" of paragraphs.
Income: gross or net? That is the first question. And as some of you have pointed out, there are too many variables involved here. What else is deducted from people's incomes? Mortgage insurance? Rental insurance? Health insurance? What are the federal and tax rates involved? Social security? How many children constitute a household with kids? Does the household get any financial help re the kids? The 30% principle has been a standard for decades, and I *think* it's based on gross income, but this article doesn't make that clear.
Perhaps I'm being overly critical. I don't know what kind of research it would take to consider all of these variables, but a blanket statement like this one doesn't seem very informative. Human beings can be very resourceful; I know most of us have had to be resourceful in all kinds of situations.
Can anybody help me out here?
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)What other debts/commitments does the family have? Do they have a car payment? Two? Student loans? How many mouths to feed are there? If you don't have a lot of other expenses, spending more than 30% might not be unwise. If they have all those expenses, 30% might be too much. It also depends on their overall take home pay. Someone whose takehome pay is $4K a month might be able to afford a $2K house note if they keep their other expenses in check.
No doubt there's a lack of decent affordable housing, but there's no reason to present the problem as worse than it is.
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)and I live in one of the cheaper neighborhoods in Charlotte. Doesn't help when the official policy of @NCDHHS is starvation.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)A lot of people are stupid when it comes to money.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And many lending institutions are simply corrupt, deceiving clients in dept, in obligation and in terms.
Finance 101 would certainly mitigate that...
But as ling as we get to point at "stupid people", we can pretend to be much more clever ourselves, regardless of whether reality warrants that pretense or not.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Rent-a-center is doing a killing..
People want it now- want it new, want the fancy...but don't have more than 42.30 in their savings account if one exists. I was horrible with money in my 20's. Could have a lot more now looking back but finally got my shit together. Took years to fix credit, taxes, etc but it was worth it.
But yes. A lot of people are fucking stupid.
For instance, drive to one of those "rent-to-buy" tires and rims places. You have to be a fucking idiot to spend that kind of money and interest so your ride looks "cool" for Friday night LOL. And as long as people are ignorant with their money, there will be somebody standing there ready to take it. Oh, and repo their shit back when you don't pay and pass it on to the next sucker.
EllieBC
(2,990 posts)It's depressing and insane, but not unheard of.