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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:58 PM Jun 2017

Ex-Bush ethics lawyer: Pence will soon become the president if Trump fires Mueller

Source: The Hill

The top ethics lawyer to former President George W. Bush warned on Saturday that if President Trump fires special counsel Robert Mueller, Vice President Pence "will soon become the 46th President."

"Just appeared on FOX News. They are building a case for firing Mueller. If that happens Mike Pence will soon become the 46th President," former White House ethics lawyer Richard Painter wrote on Twitter.

Just appeared on FOX News. They are building a case for firing Mueller. If that happens Mike Pence will soon become the 46th President.
Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) June 17, 2017

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/338301-ex-bush-ethics-lawyer-pence-will-soon-become-the-president-if



The Hill is working on painting a picture for everyone today.

This is an earlier headline from them today:
"Dem: Congress will begin impeachment if Trump fires Mueller, Rosenstein"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141801846
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Ex-Bush ethics lawyer: Pence will soon become the president if Trump fires Mueller (Original Post) Equinox Moon Jun 2017 OP
This country may be headed for an existential crisis next week Zorro Jun 2017 #1
There is absolutely nothing the Republicans have done for over a quarter century now Cosmocat Jun 2017 #27
The words "Bush" and "ethics" in one sentence gave me a severe case of guillaumeb Jun 2017 #2
Ok, associate "Trump" and "ethics". Or "Pence" and "Ethics". Yikes. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #32
Yeah, Orange Foolius will fire Mueller. And then we need to immediately start an investigation flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #3
I wish they would stop talking about this, it might discourage trump. George II Jun 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #21
Trump will get away with firing Mueller. FenwayDonkey Jun 2017 #29
I don't think Drump is that stupid...although..quite fankly..I have been wrong about Stuart G Jun 2017 #5
These days, whether I am right or wrong is more a matter moonscape Jun 2017 #12
Yes, you are right with those two sentences....four words.."random chance" & "equal odds" Stuart G Jun 2017 #13
Question... Skid Rogue Jun 2017 #6
If you mean will Pence be president NobodyHere Jun 2017 #7
I want the obstruction charges.... Skid Rogue Jun 2017 #9
If the 2016 elections were invalid NobodyHere Jun 2017 #11
Because the speaker of the house... Skid Rogue Jun 2017 #22
But wouldn't his election be invalid too? NobodyHere Jun 2017 #31
I say the entire election is invalid and second place electoral college should move in. Sunlei Jun 2017 #17
yeah, I feel ya... Skid Rogue Jun 2017 #23
yes, we're a young country walking a new unknown path because of some who colluded /w russia Sunlei Jun 2017 #34
The only legal way to prevent him from being sworn in would be is if cstanleytech Jun 2017 #10
Most of the Republican leadership should be implicated soon in the Russian Trump investigation. cheyanne Jun 2017 #30
trumps a patsy, its the Republican party, some of their leadership who outright colluded /w Russia! Sunlei Jun 2017 #35
If not Pence, then we get Ryan. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #33
They are floating trial balloons to see how they can make this go away bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #8
Just one point....and it is important....... Stuart G Jun 2017 #14
BS. All are complacent and involved benld74 Jun 2017 #15
The Hills working overtime. You always read the hill Mr. Trump? Pence & Ryan are ready to take over. Sunlei Jun 2017 #16
All alternatives suck. Owl Jun 2017 #18
Lets not forget or lose site of the fact that Pence was "on" that transition team turbinetree Jun 2017 #19
Right... Skid Rogue Jun 2017 #24
I don't like espionage and treason being used to take over a country turbinetree Jun 2017 #28
tRump is too busy watching Watergate on MSNBC elmac Jun 2017 #20
Pretty sure fatso ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #25
What'd I Tell Ya? Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #26

Zorro

(15,737 posts)
1. This country may be headed for an existential crisis next week
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jun 2017

Trump's weekend isolation at Camp David may be only serving to amplify his rage and desire to strike back at his perceived disloyal "employees".

I would not be surprised if he does move to fire Rosenstein and Mueller Monday. And I have no confidence in the Republicans doing anything positive in reaction.

Cosmocat

(14,562 posts)
27. There is absolutely nothing the Republicans have done for over a quarter century now
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:19 AM
Jun 2017

that would indicate that they would address 45 if he fired Mueller ...

People were all ginned up prior to him giving Comey the Ax saying THAT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR, that will be the end of him. People were all ginned up dozens, literally, of times during the campaign saying, "THIS IS IT, THIS WILL BE HIS END!"

Until such time as they actually do anything about him, no reason to believe they will do anything about him.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
3. Yeah, Orange Foolius will fire Mueller. And then we need to immediately start an investigation
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jun 2017

into Pence's hacked emails, because as we know, when it comes to hacked emails, there really is no worse crime.

May I be the first to say to President Pence: "Lock Him Up".

Response to George II (Reply #4)

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
5. I don't think Drump is that stupid...although..quite fankly..I have been wrong about
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jun 2017

a whole lot of things in the past, and will be in the future...so...
could be wrong about this too.....................................................

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
12. These days, whether I am right or wrong is more a matter
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:19 PM
Jun 2017

of random chance - equal odds - than anything. Used to be, one could use history, logic, critical thinking ...

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
6. Question...
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jun 2017

Obstruction aside. If there's hard evidence that the Trump team and Russia worked together to undermine our election process and charges are brought on those crimes, will Pence be allowed to benefit from that illegal behavior?

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
9. I want the obstruction charges....
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:02 PM
Jun 2017

but the whole Russian thing is what's really troubling. It goes to the heart of our democracy. If charges were successfully brought against Trump for colluding with the Russians, that would seem to invalidate the 2016 election. If that's true, it seems like we're looking at President Ryan.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
11. If the 2016 elections were invalid
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jun 2017

Then why would Ryan be holding office? Or any other house member for that matter? He had to win his house seat too.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. I say the entire election is invalid and second place electoral college should move in.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jun 2017

wish big!

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
23. yeah, I feel ya...
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jun 2017

It's just we're all looking to Ford and Watergate as some kind of blueprint. I don't think we've, as a nation, faced this before. Maybe if we went back to the early days of our republic, with worries about King George and loyalties we could find a parallel, but it seems we have no viable history to compare it to.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. yes, we're a young country walking a new unknown path because of some who colluded /w russia
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:49 AM
Jun 2017

Our government may have to be forced to work FOR Americans and OUR Democracy, to make whole again our election "results" before tampering, hacking, gerrymandering and outright colluding with a foreign government.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
10. The only legal way to prevent him from being sworn in would be is if
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:05 PM
Jun 2017

he was impeached before Trump otherwise there is no way to stop it.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
30. Most of the Republican leadership should be implicated soon in the Russian Trump investigation.
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jun 2017

When enough Republicans join with Democrats to get rid of Trump, there will be strong push to not impeach but let Trump resign. Dems should have enough to have Pence and others impeached and keep the investigation going.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. trumps a patsy, its the Republican party, some of their leadership who outright colluded /w Russia!
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:53 AM
Jun 2017

Things won't be right in America until those corrupt fucking cheate(R)s are caught and removed from our government. Even 5 months of this pathetic shit is way to long for me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
8. They are floating trial balloons to see how they can make this go away
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jun 2017

They would gladly surrender Trump to save the party and the Presidency

They will say, "See! It's all cleaned up now. President Pence is clean as a whistle!"

Follow the money, the roots are rumored to run deep.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
14. Just one point....and it is important.......
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:24 PM
Jun 2017

.............No one knows for sure what the future will bring........................


that's all folks..........

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. The Hills working overtime. You always read the hill Mr. Trump? Pence & Ryan are ready to take over.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jun 2017

have a nice weekend in the rustic government shed.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
19. Lets not forget or lose site of the fact that Pence was "on" that transition team
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jun 2017

and his BS that he didn't know, doesn't wash.

And everything that this "team" has been doing if it comes to grand jury indictments everything should be thrown out, executive orders, appointments everything




 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
20. tRump is too busy watching Watergate on MSNBC
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:14 PM
Jun 2017

and is shaking in his bed, filling his PJ's with his own golden shower.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
25. Pretty sure fatso ...
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 05:24 AM
Jun 2017

Will be firing Mueller soon .....

We'll see how this shakes out AFTER he fires Mueller.

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