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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:39 PM Jun 2017

Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina

Source: Associated Press


Debora Rey, Associated Press
Updated 9:31 pm, Monday, June 19, 2017


BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — In a hidden room in a house near Argentina's capital, police believe they have found the biggest collection of Nazi artifacts in the country's history, including a bust relief of Adolf Hitler, magnifying glasses inside elegant boxes with swastikas and even a macabre medical device used to measure head size.

Some 75 objects were found in a collector's home in Beccar, a suburb north of Buenos Aires, and authorities say they suspect they are originals that belonged to high-ranking Nazis in Germany during World War II.
 
"Our first investigations indicate that these are original pieces," Argentine Security Minister Patricia Bullrich told The Associated Press on Monday, saying that many pieces were accompanied by old photographs. "This is a way to commercialize them, showing that they were used by the horror, by the Fuhrer. There are photos of him with the objects."
 
Among the disturbing items were toys that Bullrich said would have been used to indoctrinate children and a statue of the Nazi Eagle above a swastika.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Hidden-trove-of-suspected-Nazi-artifacts-found-in-11231657.php

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Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2017 OP
Here's some of what they found (meant for the black market): sandensea Jun 2017 #1
Had no idea that has happened in that area. So weird. Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #6
Sure, Judi. sandensea Jun 2017 #17
Historically, the Ku Klux Klan was strong in the area too. hunter Jun 2017 #14
This Article Is A Typo War Is A Racket Jun 2017 #2
I bet some of the buyers were in fact domiciled there. sandensea Jun 2017 #3
You bring up Brazil; area51 Jun 2017 #11
No doubt. Hitler loved to spend time at his hideout, the Eagle's Nest. Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Yupster Jun 2017 #9
Going up there made me wonder what was wrong with Hitler Yupster Jun 2017 #10
Here is one from Trump Tower HAB911 Jun 2017 #12
That's why we have museums. SCVDem Jun 2017 #4
I hope they found this among the items... C Moon Jun 2017 #5
That is perfect orangecrush Jun 2017 #16
K&R burrowowl Jun 2017 #8
What's the fuss over these trinkets when Argentina was a home for Eichmann, Mengele and others? burfman Jun 2017 #13
Behind a secret bookshelf passageway, a trove of Nazi artifacts in A/ Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #15

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
1. Here's some of what they found (meant for the black market):
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jun 2017



Brings back memories of the Highway 78 corridor between Carlsbad and Escondido, California.

Some of the antique shops in that area look like Third Reich museums.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
6. Had no idea that has happened in that area. So weird.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:16 AM
Jun 2017

This sent me to find a map, to reactivate idle brain cells, to recall where this is:



Very, very interesting. Thanks for mentioning it.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
17. Sure, Judi.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:50 PM
Jun 2017

I knew (at least) two descendants of Operation Paperclip Nazis when I lived in that area; they seemed quite proud of it.

A shame, because they had seemed like nice people until the moment they revealed that (after knocking back a few drinks).

I also once met an Argentine descendant of a Nazi emigré (a Danish collaborator, actually). She was born years after the war, but she seemed to feel more than a little guilt.

Man's inhumanity to his fellow man.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
14. Historically, the Ku Klux Klan was strong in the area too.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jun 2017

Lot's of U.S. Americans were infatuated with the Nazis; they simply put it in the closet when World War II started.

http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/2000/april/klan/

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
3. I bet some of the buyers were in fact domiciled there.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:11 AM
Jun 2017

The rest, probably in southern Brazil - a hotbed of separatist and crypto-Nazi activity.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
7. No doubt. Hitler loved to spend time at his hideout, the Eagle's Nest.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:31 AM
Jun 2017




A US military man after the end of WWII, standing in front of the place where Hitler and his pals loved to meet.

Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #7)

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
10. Going up there made me wonder what was wrong with Hitler
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 04:11 AM
Jun 2017

There he was in the most beautiful place on earth, the most popular leader, of the most prosperous country, and it wasn't enough. Sitting up on the rocks looking at the Alps, I just wondered, how was this not enough.

Hitler did not go to the Eagle's Nest very often. There are less that two dozen documented times. He enjoyed the Berghof, which was a much larger chalet lower on the mountain where he lived and held his meetings. It was a tough two hour walk uphill to get to the Kehlstein or you can take an elevator through the mountain.

The Berghof was bombed at the end of the war. The German government blew up what was left in 1952. The Kehlstein remains as a tourist destination today. It's worth the trip, if just for the view.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
4. That's why we have museums.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jun 2017

It allows historical horrors to be displayed in their proper context.

Same with The Confederacy.

I have been through the Hiroshima museum at Peace Park in 1976. The context was slightly tilted that Pearl never happened and we just wiped them out. Maybe things have changed.

burfman

(264 posts)
13. What's the fuss over these trinkets when Argentina was a home for Eichmann, Mengele and others?
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Argentine

Take this in:

After World War II under Juan Perón's government, Argentina participated in establishing and facilitating secret escape routes out of Germany to South America for ex-SS officials (the ODESSA network)[4] Former Nazi officials emigrated to Argentina in order to prevent prosecution. Some of them lived in Argentina under their real names, but others clandestinely obtained new identities. Some well-known Nazis that emigrated to Argentina are Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann, Nazi doctors Josef Mengele and Aribert Heim, Commander Erich Priebke, Commandant Eduard Roschmann, and General Lieutenant "Bubi" Ludolf von Alvensleben.


burfman........

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
15. Behind a secret bookshelf passageway, a trove of Nazi artifacts in A/
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:37 PM
Jun 2017

JUNE 20, 2017 5:21 PM
Behind a secret bookshelf passageway, a trove of Nazi artifacts in Argentina
BY MAX BEARAK
THE WASHINGTON POST

The international police agency Interpol discovered one of the largest and most disturbing sets of Nazi artifacts this month in a northern suburb of the Argentine capital, Buenos Aires.

Agents became aware of a collector of historical artifacts who they say had procured some of his items illegally. This month, with the power of a judicial order, they raided the collector's house. Behind a secret passageway hidden behind a bookshelf, they found the biggest trove of original World War II-era artifacts in Argentina's history.

They were put on display at the Delegation of Argentine Israeli Associations in Buenos Aires on Monday. Many Nazi higher-ups fled to Argentina in the waning days of the war, and investigators believe that officials close to Adolf Hitler brought the artifacts with them. Many items were accompanied by photographs, some with Hitler holding them.

"This is a way to commercialize them, showing that they were used by the horror, by the Fuhrer. There are photos of him with the objects," Argentine Security Minister Patricia Bullrich told The Associated Press.

More:
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/world/article157238714.html

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