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duncang

(1,907 posts)
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:50 PM Jun 2017

Motorcyclist detained after riding through San Francisco health care protest

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Source: CBS News

SAN FRANCISCO — A man who allegedly rode his motorcycle through a crowd of activists blocking a San Francisco street during a Wednesday afternoon protest against the GOP health care bill was detained by police after the dangerous stunt.

CBS San Francisco reports protesters had gathered outside the San Francisco Federal Building at 7th and Mission streets at around 12:30 p.m. and were conducting a "die-in," in which a group of around 20 people laid down on Seventh Street to block traffic, when the incident occurred.
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Emily Lee, a spokeswoman for the group Bay Resistance, which organized the protest along with Senior and Disability Action, said the man drove up on a red motorcycle, traveling the wrong way on Seventh Street.

"Everyone thought he was just confused, but he didn't stop, and at some point it became clear he was going to come through the crowd and people jumped out of the way," Lee said.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/motorcyclist-detained-after-riding-through-san-francisco-health-care-protest/

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Motorcyclist detained after riding through San Francisco health care protest (Original Post) duncang Jun 2017 OP
someone should have "clotheslined" him. n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #1
not nice, maybe shoved an object in his spokes! juxtaposed Jun 2017 #3
nazi dip shit on roids juxtaposed Jun 2017 #2
Security: Hire the kid who rammed into the motorcyclist in California the other day. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #4
I'm probably going to make myself unpopular here - cab67 Jun 2017 #5
Except he went the wrong way down a one way on purpose toward the protesters which would cstanleytech Jun 2017 #7
I was not speaking in defense of the motorcyclist. cab67 Jun 2017 #13
As far as I know it was a organized protest. duncang Jun 2017 #8
whether it was permitted isn't the issue for me. cab67 Jun 2017 #14
I doubt the protesters considered your or others people's disapproval tazkcmo Jun 2017 #16
The conversation doesn't always turn around to the reason for the protest. cab67 Jun 2017 #20
When I think of the most well known protests, I think of people in the streets Bradical79 Jun 2017 #17
The difference (which I missed in the context of this particular protest) is advance notice. cab67 Jun 2017 #21
We'll make sure to clear it with you guys next time LOL Blues Heron Jun 2017 #23
My daughter was there. It was arranged with police. Just a ten minute protest. deurbano Jun 2017 #10
+1. It's also against the law, I believe, to block traffic. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #18
That wasnt a stunt it was clearly premeditated and he should be charged to the max. nt cstanleytech Jun 2017 #6
But none call it Terrah jpak Jun 2017 #9
This doesn't belong in LBN. PSPS Jun 2017 #11
This gem cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2017 #12
Disgusting. My daughter was at the die-in. I'm going to tell her they should rally outside deurbano Jun 2017 #15
Legitimizing Bear Creek Jun 2017 #19
Wonder if his motorcycle insurance company knows about this dembotoz Jun 2017 #22
Nah....he didn't have a clue,he was all "confused"!! Bengus81 Jun 2017 #24
Locking... DonViejo Jun 2017 #25
 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
1. someone should have "clotheslined" him. n/m
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jun 2017
 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
3. not nice, maybe shoved an object in his spokes!
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jun 2017
 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
2. nazi dip shit on roids
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jun 2017

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
4. Security: Hire the kid who rammed into the motorcyclist in California the other day.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jun 2017

cab67

(2,990 posts)
5. I'm probably going to make myself unpopular here -
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jun 2017

but except for narrow circumstances, traffic blockages are a very unintelligent form of protest.

They work if the people being blocked are those who could affect change and, usually, those who are not aligned with the cause being promoted by the protest.

Please note, I am NOT defending the motorcyclist. He should be prosecuted. But I really dislike traffic blockages - they may have worked with the Civil Rights movement, but they won't make a difference here and they actually aggravate those who support the good side.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
7. Except he went the wrong way down a one way on purpose toward the protesters which would
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jun 2017

tend to imply that he could have gone other ways to avoid the protesters entirely and thus any claims his attorney might try to make that he was frustrated over being blocked would kind of fly out the window you would think.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
13. I was not speaking in defense of the motorcyclist.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jun 2017

He should be prosecuted, as I said.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
8. As far as I know it was a organized protest.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jun 2017

In other words it was probably permitted.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
14. whether it was permitted isn't the issue for me.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 10:03 PM
Jun 2017

Whether blocking traffic, for any length of time, has a positive impact on the causes we all promote - including making sure Obamacare is not overturned for something like Trumpcare - is. And as far as I can tell, it doesn't.


tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
16. I doubt the protesters considered your or others people's disapproval
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 11:17 PM
Jun 2017

Then again, maybe they did and I don't meant this in snark but maybe they decided peoples' inconvenience is unfortunate but necessary. One reason for a protest like this as I'm sure you're aware is to simply raise awareness, not necessarily to gain support. In the case of the Senates health care bill, it's an effective form of protest because no matter how irritated a person is about the resultant traffic congestion, it's highly unlikely that it will cause a person to support that bill or other wise alter their general position on the subject. They either believe health care is a fundamental human need and right or they consider it a commodity to be bought and sold on the market, traffic be damned.

It gets the word out really well because of commuters complaining about the traffic jam these protesters created, the conversation will eventually turn to the actual bill. Without the traffic jam and inconvenience, the conversation may never take place. I acknowledge you don't like it and I'm not asking you to, either. Traffic sucks on a good day.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
20. The conversation doesn't always turn around to the reason for the protest.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jun 2017

First - I acknowledge a couple of differences between this protest and the traffic blockages that really turned me against the practice:

1. This particular protest appears to have been organized (and announced) in advance. I was unaware of this (blame incomplete reading on my part) when I made my first comment. People know they're coming and, in general, they're organized to allow emergency traffic or alternative routes for those going somewhere.

Spontaneous traffic blockages really piss people off and tend to be the focus of attention. Interstate 80 was blocked for a while near my home after Trump was announced as the president-elect; nearly all of the news coverage was directed toward the families who were trying to get to a local hospital to visit relatives in the ICU. Likewise, when BLM blocked highway exit ramps leading to airports, the media spent more time covering people who missed flights as a result of the action.

2. This particular protest had a specific goal - block Trumpcare. Other traffic blockage protests have not been so centered. Consider some of the BLM protests - what, exactly, did they intend to accomplish beyond making people aware of police violence toward African Americans? Were they protesting for or against specific legislation, or individual political officials or police officers? (Protests organized in reaction to specific acts of police brutality often call for a specific officer's dismissal and prosecution, but not all BLM protests did.) Likewise - what, exactly, did those who blocked freeways in reaction to Trump's "election" hope to accomplish? Again, the news reports focused on the outcome relative to travellers and commuters, not the reasons for the protest.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. When I think of the most well known protests, I think of people in the streets
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jun 2017

How many took place on sidewalks so as not to inconvenience motorists?

cab67

(2,990 posts)
21. The difference (which I missed in the context of this particular protest) is advance notice.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jun 2017

Spontaneous traffic blockages tend to annoy people without advancing the cause. But if people know they're coming, disruption is minimized.

Blues Heron

(5,926 posts)
23. We'll make sure to clear it with you guys next time LOL
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jun 2017

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
10. My daughter was there. It was arranged with police. Just a ten minute protest.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jun 2017

The guy took matters into his own hands at seven minutes. Many of the protestors were disabled (like my daughter, who uses a wheelchair) or elderly.

San Francisco has lots of much longer road closures for more frivolous reasons all the time.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. +1. It's also against the law, I believe, to block traffic.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 08:32 AM
Jun 2017

That's interfering with others' rights to be free to travel and move around.

That doesn't excuse the motorcyclist.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
6. That wasnt a stunt it was clearly premeditated and he should be charged to the max. nt
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jun 2017

jpak

(41,756 posts)
9. But none call it Terrah
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jun 2017

just because the biker dude was a white MAGA-queen.

yup

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
11. This doesn't belong in LBN.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jun 2017

The event and the article is several days old.

12. This gem
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jun 2017

This real gem of a deplorable ran a Facebook group called "The White Privilege Club" and calls his own Asian-descent wife a "slant eye import."



Read it here: https://nextshark.com/man-ran-white-privilege-club-calls-asian-wife-slant-eye-import/

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
15. Disgusting. My daughter was at the die-in. I'm going to tell her they should rally outside
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 10:40 PM
Jun 2017

the SF company for which he works.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
19. Legitimizing
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029241759|

North Carolina, North Dakota and Tennessee are trying to make this legal. All I could think of was those terrible attacks in London. They want to be the terrorists? I guess if it a right winger acting out it is patriotism.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
22. Wonder if his motorcycle insurance company knows about this
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:25 AM
Jun 2017

Doubt he cares, but I bet his agent just shit a brick

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
24. Nah....he didn't have a clue,he was all "confused"!!
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jun 2017

Funny how those Replican THUGS get caught they turn into an instant snowflake and had NO IDEA they were or could hurt anyone.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
25. Locking...
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jun 2017

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