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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:09 AM Jun 2017

"No Religion" Is Now Australia's Number One Religion

Source: Buzzfeed

Australia remains a fairly religious country, with 60% of people reporting a religious affiliation.

In 1966 only 0.8% of Australians ticked the box for "No religion", which includes atheists, secularists and agnostics.

The proportion of people reporting no religion increased to 30.1% in 2016 – up from 22% five years ago, and nearly double the 16% reported in 2001.

Those aged from 18 to 34 were most likely to report not having a religion (39%) than other age groups. Those aged 65 years and over were more likely to report a religious affiliation.

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ginarushton/no-religion-is-now-australias-number-one-religion?bffbozpol&utm_term=.eedVdE65B#.kwzmL6l91

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"No Religion" Is Now Australia's Number One Religion (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2017 OP
Lucky Australia, they got the convicts, USA got the religious whackos. raccoon Jun 2017 #1
God damn the "The Great Awakening " Kolesar Jun 2017 #2
The headline is a lie oberliner Jun 2017 #4
Whistling past the graveyard? NeoGreen Jun 2017 #6
More than half of the population identifies as Christian oberliner Jun 2017 #9
Score one for semantics... NeoGreen Jun 2017 #11
But "Christian" is an umbrella term that would include Catholics, Anglicans, smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #18
The US has more "no religion" people than any one demonination oberliner Jun 2017 #20
It's a lie because atheism is not a religion luvtheGWN Jun 2017 #12
The census puts atheism, agnostic, secular, etc. into one category oberliner Jun 2017 #21
No, it isn't oberliner Jun 2017 #3
The article: yallerdawg Jun 2017 #10
The article links to the census as its source material oberliner Jun 2017 #19
The first "sentence" in the article identifies Catholicism as the #2 "religious affiliation." yallerdawg Jun 2017 #22
Good point oberliner Jun 2017 #27
Some people say that OFF is a TV channel... uriel1972 Jun 2017 #25
Doesn't mean they don't believe in god OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #5
I've never understood what "spiritual" actually is. Ligyron Jun 2017 #7
Me neither. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #8
Spiritually atreides1 Jun 2017 #14
I'm with you. Scruffy1 Jun 2017 #17
Rephrase the question..."Do you have a sky daddy?" and "no" is still a minority answer... Moostache Jun 2017 #13
In his brilliant books, Sapiens and Homo Deus, professor Yuval Noah Harari says, PatrickforO Jun 2017 #15
Easily explained... they are further away from God jberryhill Jun 2017 #16
But wouldn't that be reversed gilbert sullivan Jun 2017 #23
Only heretics, pagans and atheists... uriel1972 Jun 2017 #24
I think the lower photo is from France... chaplain_M Jun 2017 #26
I would have thought the second picture identified as Catholics! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #28

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
1. Lucky Australia, they got the convicts, USA got the religious whackos.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:28 AM
Jun 2017

I'm talking about the days when both countries were British colonies.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
2. God damn the "The Great Awakening "
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jun 2017

USA had religious freedom, and the highly motivated zealots just ran with it. They turned it into selfish capitalistic sociopathy. Ok, I cannot discuss this at length, I just sense it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. The headline is a lie
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jun 2017

The survey shows Christianity as the most popular religion in Australia, same as the USA.

The two countries also have about the same percentage of the population identifying as not religious.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
6. Whistling past the graveyard?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:36 AM
Jun 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/123053782

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australian-census-religious-affiliation-falls-as-population-changes-rapidly/ar-BBDiWn7

It is about the direction and magnitude of the rate of decline and demographics:



Over that period since 1966, the proportion of the population who self-identify as Christian, combining all Christian denominations, has fallen from 88.2% to 52.1%.

Since 1966, when the proportion of the population who marked “no religion” on their census was just 0.8%, the number that now mark “no religion” has swelled to 29.6%, nearly double the 16% recorded in 2001. That category now accounts for a higher proportion of the population than any single religious denomination for the first time.

Those aged from 18 to 34 were most likely to report not having a religion (39%) than other age groups. Those aged 65 years and over were more likely to report a religious affiliation.




(I associate conservatives/religious as related ilk)
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. More than half of the population identifies as Christian
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:46 AM
Jun 2017

Less than a third say no religion - thus, the headline is not true.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
11. Score one for semantics...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jun 2017

...but if the total number of christians (total combined denominations) in the US was reported to be only 52%, then I'd be celebrating regardless of headlines.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. But "Christian" is an umbrella term that would include Catholics, Anglicans,
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jun 2017

Presbyterians, Methodists, etc..

So even if you just broke it down by Catholics and Protestants, each could still be under 33%.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
12. It's a lie because atheism is not a religion
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jun 2017

but I think the headline was referring to the sects within various religions, rather than to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism etc.

Anyhow, atheism (or non-theism as I prefer to call it) is growing in numbers in all western countries. I think that's a good thing, personally.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. The census puts atheism, agnostic, secular, etc. into one category
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Again, I think this Buzfeed is being presented in a deceptive way - as opposed to the actual census it links to which is more straightforward.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. No, it isn't
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:48 AM
Jun 2017

The number one religion in Australia is Christianity at 52 percent.

It literally says so in the first sentence of the census linked to in this article:

"The results of the latest national Census today reveal we’re a religiously diverse nation, with Christianity remaining the most common religion (52 per cent of the population)."

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. The article:
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jun 2017

"For the first time ever, "no religion" has overtaken any single religious denomination, toppling Catholicism as the number one religious affiliation for Australians, the latest national census released on Tuesday revealed."

My only bone of contention with the headline is "No Religion" is NOT a religion! That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. The article links to the census as its source material
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:08 AM
Jun 2017

And the census contradicts the article in the first sentence (which I cited).

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
22. The first "sentence" in the article identifies Catholicism as the #2 "religious affiliation."
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

The notion that "no religious affiliation" IS a religious affiliation REMAINS the most audaciously ridiculous claim in the article - and the census report!

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
5. Doesn't mean they don't believe in god
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:04 AM
Jun 2017

How many are spiritual without professing an actual religion? They really should make the distinction between Spiritualist, Atheist and Agnostic.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
7. I've never understood what "spiritual" actually is.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jun 2017

Closest I can come is: "I believe in supernatural shit and am irrational at some level, but don't question me too closely about this".

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
14. Spiritually
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jun 2017

In modern times the emphasis is on subjective experience of a sacred dimension and the "deepest values and meanings by which people live," often in a context separate from organized religious institutions. Modern spirituality typically includes a belief in a supernatural (beyond the known and observable) realm, personal growth, a quest for an ultimate/sacred meaning, religious experience,[ or an encounter with one's own "inner dimension."


What you've defined is religion...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. Rephrase the question..."Do you have a sky daddy?" and "no" is still a minority answer...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jun 2017

In the broadest sense though, the more people who say "no" to the sky daddy question, the better off we as a species will be.

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
15. In his brilliant books, Sapiens and Homo Deus, professor Yuval Noah Harari says,
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jun 2017

"Religion is a deal. Spirituality is a journey."

He also says that under the current capitalist system we as a species made the 'deal' to give up personal meaning in order to have power.

Good books.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Easily explained... they are further away from God
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jun 2017

Look at these Christian worshippers in the US:



You see them reaching upwards? That's so they can get closer in touch with God, who is above in Heaven.

Now, if you want to get in touch with God in Australia, you have to do this:



But it is still not as effective, because the entire planet earth gets in the way.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
24. Only heretics, pagans and atheists...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jun 2017

believe that the Earth is round, orbits the Sun and is more than 6000 years old... doncha know?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
28. I would have thought the second picture identified as Catholics!
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jun 2017

Come on!

I was an altar boy in my misspent youth!

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