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Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:20 AM Jun 2017

CNN journalists resign over Russian story snafu

Source: USA Today


Three veteran CNN journalists with impressive investigative credentials have resigned after their story on Russian ties to Trump failed to meet reporting standards, CNN wrote in an unusual editor's note to the public.

CNN said it has retracted the story, taken down online links to it, and accepted resignations from three men who wrote and edited the piece. They are reporter Thomas Frank, a former Pulitzer Prize finalist for USA TODAY; editor Eric Lichtblau, a Pulitzer Prize winner for the New York Times who joined CNN earlier this year; and Lex Haris, executive editor of "CNN Investigates."

The story, published Thursday, laid out the latest in the ongoing reporting saga of President Trump and hotly-contested ties to shadowy Russian officials.

According to the Washington Post, Frank's story asserted that the Senate Intelligence Committee was investigating a wealthy Russian investment fund "whose chief executive met with a member of Donald Trump's transition team four days before Trump's inauguration."

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/27/cnn-journalists-resign-over-russian-story-snafu/430755001/

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CNN journalists resign over Russian story snafu (Original Post) Kilgore Jun 2017 OP
Damn. That's a shame TexasBushwhacker Jun 2017 #1
Precisely... not sure exactly what, if anything, CNN got wrong. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #17
Der Drumpenfuhrer tweeted about it this morning. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #2
And the deplorables are going apeshit. Initech Jun 2017 #12
No worries, the Fuhrer-in-Chief is going to be impeached, just a matter of time... tic toc tic toc. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #18
Trumpy is probably going to weaponize this story.... FM123 Jun 2017 #3
what haveN'T the asshole & his nutter Republicans "weaponized"? Sunlei Jun 2017 #23
Knowing nothing at this point, pangaia Jun 2017 #4
I bet my money on three DonCoquixote Jun 2017 #5
That would be my guess as well. pangaia Jun 2017 #6
Moi aussi!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #19
to me it smells like another Dan Rather hit job. Javaman Jun 2017 #9
I smell a whiff of Nixonian WH tactics. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #13
I was 'aware' during the nixon thing. pangaia Jun 2017 #14
The magnitude is staggering to comprehend. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #27
My BIL knew this was going to happen 20-25 years ago. pangaia Jun 2017 #32
Do I smell another "September Dossier" type episode? mwooldri Jun 2017 #28
Resigning (or being fired) is a bit drastic for a one-time instance, isn't it? Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #7
Exactly. Whether they made a mistake, were lazy, lied, OR ....were right.... pangaia Jun 2017 #15
The Madman's going to attempt to Dan Rather this as much as he can. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #8
My first thought. spiderpig Jun 2017 #20
and it begins. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #10
What are you seeing? Baitball Blogger Jun 2017 #11
Media intimidation. Retractions. Cowering. Starting. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #31
It 'continues.' pangaia Jun 2017 #16
There is a sense of overreaction by CNN here. If that is Enoki33 Jun 2017 #21
They are HEROS and now CNN can't be attacked by deplorab* :P. Where is a link to the story please? Sunlei Jun 2017 #22
6. Controlled Mass Media Amimnoch Jun 2017 #24
Lots of Trump supporters talking about this saying the CNN producer claimed Russian collusion story OliverQ Jun 2017 #25
Jesus, this has just giving them more fodder Duppers Jun 2017 #26
FOX: What are reporting standards? Sneederbunk Jun 2017 #29
it's a given that Fox Fucking News is nothing but repuke propaganda Skittles Jun 2017 #33
Too close to the truth, like Dan Rather? joanbarnes Jun 2017 #30
Lichtblau Co-authored oct 31 NYT piece that Justice Jun 2017 #34

TexasBushwhacker

(20,184 posts)
1. Damn. That's a shame
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jun 2017

But just because it doesn't meet CNN's reporting standards doesn't make it false. It reminds me of Dan Rather and that SNAFU.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
12. And the deplorables are going apeshit.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jun 2017

Ugh... The sooner Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich go away the better. I hate, hate these fucking assholes.

There's still enough evidence to take Trump down, let's focus on real news, like the healthcare bill.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. Knowing nothing at this point,
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jun 2017

3 possibilities that I see..

1- The story was wrong, partially wrong, etc., by mistake, for what ever reason and, unlike REAL fake news sites and blatant liars, CNN fired the writers, and shouldn't have.

2- The story was wrong, partially wrong, etc., intentionally( hard to believe), and, unlike REAL fake news sites and blatant liars, CNN fired the writers, and should have.

OR

2- The story is right and somebody with the proverbial gun to the head got to CNN.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. I was 'aware' during the nixon thing.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

Vietnam was my 'alarm bell.'

This is much, much worse..

Did I say MUCH....

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. My BIL knew this was going to happen 20-25 years ago.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jun 2017

Maybe not the exact road map, but he undersood/understands how the world actually works..

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
28. Do I smell another "September Dossier" type episode?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Dossier

Andrew Gilligan released report stating that the Iraq War Dossiers were "sexed up". Government got unhappy. BBC stood by the story. Hutton Inquiry said Gilligan got it wrong & BBC's investigation into his report was flawed.

Not necessarily any parallels here but it's a possible conclusion I'm drawing... truth is in the middle... my belief is story has some merit but isn't wholly accurate, government ain't happy, CNN bigwigs being leaned on heavily.



pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. Exactly. Whether they made a mistake, were lazy, lied, OR ....were right....
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

It doesn't smell good.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
8. The Madman's going to attempt to Dan Rather this as much as he can.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jun 2017

He's already doing it this morning.

But the Russia story is not going away.

Come out, damned spot! Out, I command you! One, two. OK, it’s time to do it now.—Hell is murky!—Nonsense, my lord, nonsense! You are a soldier, and yet you are afraid? Why should we be scared, when no one can lay the guilt upon us?—But who would have thought the old man would have had so much blood in him?

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
20. My first thought.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

More whining from a lying liar who has a solid page of the NYT devoted to his lies (in fine print, too).

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. They are HEROS and now CNN can't be attacked by deplorab* :P. Where is a link to the story please?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

*deplorable Lawyers.

looking a bit rough Mr Trump, why can't you finish the damn transition??

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
24. 6. Controlled Mass Media
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jun 2017
The 14 defining characteristics of fascism

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


Notice that no matter how much false and obviously false information is put out by administration sympathetic news sources, retractions do not occur (just think Pizzagate as one of MANY examples). The freedom of the press is under siege.
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
25. Lots of Trump supporters talking about this saying the CNN producer claimed Russian collusion story
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jun 2017

is a hoax for ratings.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
33. it's a given that Fox Fucking News is nothing but repuke propaganda
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:43 AM
Jun 2017

they, like our current "president", *HAVE NO STANDARDS*

Justice

(7,185 posts)
34. Lichtblau Co-authored oct 31 NYT piece that
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:26 AM
Jun 2017

Threw cold water on David Corn's piece on dossier.

Edited to add link - https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

I've no doubt his reporting is less than stellar. I've been tweeting at him since to ask him to identify sources that told him no links when obviously FBI was investigating all sorts of links.

GOP used this piece as proof David Corn's piece was nothing - when in truth it was everything.

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