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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:20 PM Jun 2017

Gun rights advocates aim to take firearms into zoos

Source: Newsweek

June 27, 2017
Harriet Sinclair
Posted with permission from Newsweek


Gun rights advocates are demanding people be allowed to carry firearms into public zoos nationwide.

Their calls for packing pistols while viewing caged animals setback on Friday, however, when a judge in St Louis ruled in favor of retaining a ban on firearms at the St. Louis Zoo.

"The zoo has shown that the safety, patronage and image of the zoo will be compromised if visitors are permitted to carry firearms or other weapons on zoo property, which would significantly harm the level of visitorship, as well as the mission, the public image and autonomy of the zoo as an institution," Judge Joan Moriarty wrote in her ruling, which was seen by the Associated Press on Monday.

Judge Moriarty’s ruling, in which she found the zoo gun ban was not unconstitutional, upholds a temporary ban that came into force in June 2015, after Ohio gun rights activist Jeffry Smith said he was planning go into the zoo with a group of armed people in order to challenge the zoo’s gun ban.

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Gun rights advocates aim to take firearms into zoos (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2017 OP
And they say we're the violent ones. Right. Initech Jun 2017 #1
These people are like the taliban Matthew28 Jun 2017 #2
They are, they are cut from the same piece of cloth, just a different country! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #28
I'm sorry but that last one is not entirely on this planet. Look at that face. Jesus Christ. CurtEastPoint Jun 2017 #3
The intelligence just radiates doesn't it? Metro135 Jun 2017 #10
Maybe they wouldn't feel the need for all that bang-bang if they just pumped some Aristus Jun 2017 #16
I laughed out loud when I saw that. Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #47
I'm surprised they want to go to the zoo MountCleaners Jun 2017 #4
Pathetic little angry inchers 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #5
If I walk into a place and I see people holding giant shotguns... Initech Jun 2017 #13
yep.... dhill926 Jun 2017 #23
Same here! In fact, looking at that deranged bunch, even without guns, I would RKP5637 Jun 2017 #29
Responsible gun owners billh58 Jun 2017 #6
if animals know we are armed SethH Jun 2017 #7
Time to point and laugh at these guys. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #8
And only the back end of the amendment. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #9
I suppose anymore a 'well regulated militia' is anyone with an NRA card groundloop Jun 2017 #12
You never know when you will have to take care of charging peafowl.... Thomas Hurt Jun 2017 #11
Why would they want to carry a loaded firearm in a Zoo? haele Jun 2017 #14
What is wrong with these clowns?!? montana_hazeleyes Jun 2017 #15
What the bloody, motherfucking hell?! FiveGoodMen Jun 2017 #17
Talk about the zoo coming to the zoo. sandensea Jun 2017 #18
Just a bunch of little men carrying their p... around. tah tah. riversedge Jun 2017 #19
How long before: IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!! Coventina Jun 2017 #20
LOL! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #42
How "Family Friendly" of them jpak Jun 2017 #21
Next it will be guns for prisoners. nt chowder66 Jun 2017 #22
Guns out of the home, people should be required to carry very good insurance on each gun to cover Sunlei Jun 2017 #24
methinks these fine gentlemen lack a little self awareness.... dhill926 Jun 2017 #25
Jeff Smith looks like an insane serial killer. democratisphere Jun 2017 #26
If they're allowed in with guns... NeoConsSuck Jun 2017 #27
Why in hell would you need to take a gun to the zoo? blueinredohio Jun 2017 #30
Because they're idiots. rockfordfile Jun 2017 #31
Why in hell do you need to take giant guns anywhere? Initech Jun 2017 #39
Because this country is THAT fucking stupid at this point Cosmocat Jun 2017 #45
Those people look like morons in those pics rockfordfile Jun 2017 #32
Probably because they are lunasun Jun 2017 #40
They ALL look like morons, in ALL the pictures. (nt) Paladin Jun 2017 #48
Bet my rear every damn one of them is an ignorant white wing racist. Hoyt Jun 2017 #33
It's St Louis so you are most likely correct and imagine what could happen with the armed there lunasun Jun 2017 #41
Trophy hunting. Laffy Kat Jun 2017 #34
do these BABIES need a blankie too? pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #35
The only reason for this is they want to shoot an animal McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #36
You'd think they were being asked to leave their dicks in their car. Flaleftist Jun 2017 #37
You're on to something! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #43
They can already carry there.... Red Mountain Jun 2017 #38
Look at them. Just look at them. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #44
Why do I think that tall guy is wearing a pink lace thong?? Vinca Jun 2017 #46
I'm A 5'7" Female RobinA Jun 2017 #49
I am 52 years old and have been a frequent visitor to the St. Louis Zoo logosoco Jun 2017 #50
They've been pushing this issue in Texas well over a year. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #51

Matthew28

(1,797 posts)
2. These people are like the taliban
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jun 2017

Everything is about God, guns and death to them. They're cancer on our society.

Metro135

(359 posts)
10. The intelligence just radiates doesn't it?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jun 2017

And is a stomach that looks as if you've swallowed a beach ball a requirement of all men who join this august society?

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
16. Maybe they wouldn't feel the need for all that bang-bang if they just pumped some
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jun 2017

iron once in a while.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
13. If I walk into a place and I see people holding giant shotguns...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:58 PM
Jun 2017

I'm immediately turning around and walking out. And I will not hesitate to let the owners know.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
6. Responsible gun owners
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

being responsible for making themselves look like the imbeciles they are. Ted Nugent must be so proud of these armed and dangerous "patriots."

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. And only the back end of the amendment.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jun 2017

They skip the first half explaining who should be armed and why!

But it is a lot of words if you read them all.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
12. I suppose anymore a 'well regulated militia' is anyone with an NRA card
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jun 2017

Those pathetic people just can't get past the need to show off their artificial penises in public.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
11. You never know when you will have to take care of charging peafowl....
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jun 2017

they let those things run loose in some of the zoos, don't you know....

haele

(12,647 posts)
14. Why would they want to carry a loaded firearm in a Zoo?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jun 2017

Are they preparing themselves for terrorists or PETA will rampage through the facility with AK-47's, shooting wildly at visitors?
Do they want to wander around evangelizing zoo patrons on how great it is to feel like you're able to instantly protect yourself and the public along with the 2nd Amendment against anything?

Or do they just want to walk around scaring "Liberals" and other wimpy anti-gunners - like the grandfather bringing his grandkids out for a safe and fun trip to the zoo to see the animals - and maybe occasionally "scope out" a likely lion or elephant from safety and pretend they're big game hunters?

I'm not seeing a concealed carry situation (or even a discrete open carry) where there may be a case that someone is actually concerned about protecting himself, I'm seeing people who are walking around with an obvious intent to intimidate the public and pretend it's an effort to "normalize" their fantasies of walking around playing cowboy. They said it themselves - they're not going to the zoo to appreciate the animals, or animal conservation. It's about a "no gun" policy at a zoo where there's a large number of animals that are also prize trophy animals to many "gun enthusiasts".

Frankly, these guys should have better things to do than make the zoo employees and parents with kids nervous about why they're at a zoo with long rifles.

Haele

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
15. What is wrong with these clowns?!?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jun 2017

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

They better not let Rumps boys in zoo with guns!

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
18. Talk about the zoo coming to the zoo.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jun 2017

These what animals would refer to as "animals" - in the worst sense of the word.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. LOL!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:34 AM
Jun 2017

Funny, but you know something? It's probably not too far from the truth. I can actually see that happening. Sick mofos!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. Guns out of the home, people should be required to carry very good insurance on each gun to cover
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:52 PM
Jun 2017

ANY accidents or loss of the gun to thieves. Shouldn't be allowed to leave a gun unattended in a car either without extra car insurance.

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
25. methinks these fine gentlemen lack a little self awareness....
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jun 2017

I'm with the woman in the second photo who appears to be laughing at them. Of course I reckon that could get you shot...

NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
27. If they're allowed in with guns...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:02 PM
Jun 2017

Guaranteed, within one week, one of these imbeciles would feel threatened by one of the larger zoo animals, and shoot the animal dead.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
39. Why in hell do you need to take giant guns anywhere?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:35 PM
Jun 2017

Bill Maher had a good New Rule a while back: "You're not gun owners, you're ammosexuals. And in case you deny that you have an intimate relationship with your gun, consider this: you're taking it out to dinner."

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
41. It's St Louis so you are most likely correct and imagine what could happen with the armed there
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jun 2017

and black youth visiting a zoo.
Can't even be safe walking around a zoo?

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
36. The only reason for this is they want to shoot an animal
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jun 2017

It is so much cheaper to bag a tiger in a zoo than to go on a safari. Zoos should require rifle packing patrons to post a million dollar bond or whatever it would cost to replace their most expensive animal in case a gun "accidentally goes off." Suddenly no one would want to go hunting in a zoo.

Red Mountain

(1,731 posts)
38. They can already carry there....
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jun 2017

just not legally. If they're that damn scared to go to the zoo without a gun no doubt they do.

These are zealots, people. No reasoning with them.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
49. I'm A 5'7" Female
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:39 AM
Jun 2017

and I'm not as scared of the world as these burly men appear to be. Hell, I'm a social worker whose job it used to be to tramp through crack houses making sure the kids were in no immediate danger. Unarmed. These guys need a rifle AND a side arm to go to the zoo? Truly sad. And, well...kinda laughable, too.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
50. I am 52 years old and have been a frequent visitor to the St. Louis Zoo
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:12 AM
Jun 2017

my entire life. I have taken my kids and now my grandkids there many, many times. There is no need for anyone to have a firearm at this zoo. If these folks are so afraid, they should just stay home. And they need to realize that any entity is allowed to ban firearms from the premises. If they can't deal with that fact, they can avoid going there.

Shell_Seas

(3,332 posts)
51. They've been pushing this issue in Texas well over a year.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jun 2017

And they won. The Houston zoo had to take down its "no guns allowed" sign. State law allows them to open carry in public parks.

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