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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 09:50 AM Jun 2017

Man thought book would stop bullet and make him a YouTube star, now he's dead

Source: MassLive

Before Monday, before the 911 call and police investigation, Pedro Ruiz III, an aspiring YouTube star in rural Minnesota, spent considerable time convincing his girlfriend to shoot a gun at his chest.

There would be a thick encyclopedia book between the barrel and his body, authorities say he told 19-year-old Monalisa Perez. The pages, he reasoned, would stop the bullet.

He even had evidence that it had worked once before - a different book with an entrance hole but no exit.

So on Monday evening, the young couple positioned two cameras outside their home and prepared for their breakthrough stunt. They wanted fame, family said, and danger often brings it.

Read more: http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/06/he_thought_a_book_would_stop_a.html

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Man thought book would stop bullet and make him a YouTube star, now he's dead (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2017 OP
Well deserved Darwin Award rurallib Jun 2017 #1
I cannot express how much I truly loathe the concept of a "Darwin Award" Billy Jingo Jun 2017 #2
Thank you rurallib Jun 2017 #3
People are doing it to themselves IronLionZion Jun 2017 #5
I just read a whole thread about "Christians" saying the same to addicts of opiates. pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #7
Somebody is selling them opiates for a profit IronLionZion Jun 2017 #11
I think it's similar Blues Heron Jun 2017 #12
Segments of the human race have always been stupid enough to die stupidly. Youtube shouldn't get Corvo Bianco Jun 2017 #36
People use opiates because American "christians" don't provide decent health care including mental. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #55
There are a whole lot of reason people use opiates. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #56
People of less intelligence deserve to die jberryhill Jun 2017 #26
everyone dies some day. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #32
Killing yourself is different than someone else killing you IronLionZion Jun 2017 #35
Person dies climbing Mount Everest jberryhill Jun 2017 #37
It's certainly not the mountain's fault IronLionZion Jun 2017 #38
Either way, no one needs to do either risky thing jberryhill Jun 2017 #46
We all make choices in life IronLionZion Jun 2017 #48
Killing yourself is the ultimate "dehumanizing". Doing it by stupidity is ugly. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #22
Thought you were talking about the election... pbmus Jun 2017 #27
And an element of truth. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #28
There's no better way to advertise our own cleverness LanternWaste Jun 2017 #29
"Many DU posts follow that same formulate....." pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #33
Actually, Lantern, I think many of us find the Darwin Award concept amusing because we.. Nitram Jun 2017 #45
It could also be a deterrent IronLionZion Jun 2017 #64
It is known as black humor. Some of us find it amusing what some humans will do to Nitram Jun 2017 #41
Gashlycrumb Tinies IronLionZion Jun 2017 #44
I love the Gashlycrumb Tinies melman Jun 2017 #63
Never forget that half the people in the world have below average I.Q.s Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #53
Yeah melman Jun 2017 #62
Well deserved? RelativelyJones Jun 2017 #40
From a heist-thriller with Gene Hackman: (forgot title) DetlefK Jun 2017 #4
I think it's from the French Connection FakeNoose Jun 2017 #50
The heist movie you're thinking of is cleverly titled "The Heist" Nailzberg Jun 2017 #70
See, this is what happens when they cancel Mythbusters snooper2 Jun 2017 #6
Yeah - Mythbusters covered it pretty well in 2010 csziggy Jun 2017 #65
Darn It ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #67
I would be surprised if the prosecutor gets a conviction. madaboutharry Jun 2017 #8
There's nothing gained by sending a whole ton of people to jail. Iggo Jun 2017 #18
re:"There is nothing gained by sending her to prison." thesquanderer Jun 2017 #20
Probably watched a little too much Sopranos 47of74 Jun 2017 #9
According to another story, Ruiz supposedly Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #16
There was an episode where Phil Leotardo did a mock exection of Lorraine Calluzzo 47of74 Jun 2017 #39
Doing this with any gun is stupid, R Merm Jun 2017 #10
A .50 caliber exboyfil Jun 2017 #13
Yes it will R Merm Jun 2017 #15
You can kill a bear with a .50 cal. Mosby Jun 2017 #51
And she was just 2 or 3 feet away when she shot! nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #59
JFC those can kill buffalo -- the cartridges are huge obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #57
Keep treating guns like toys and this outcome is as predictable as the sunrise... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #14
He should have used War and Peace marylandblue Jun 2017 #17
LOL! llmart Jun 2017 #25
or the US tax code IronLionZion Jun 2017 #49
Good guy with a gun! HAB911 Jun 2017 #19
"Good guy" with a tired cliche! NT pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #34
Scientific Data bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #21
I allas sayed book larnin' has its limits. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #23
I hate to break it to you, Bernardo... Nitram Jun 2017 #42
This Shtick Might Have Worked In The Nineteenth Century Vogon_Glory Jun 2017 #24
Darwin awards for this year have a clear winner Gothmog Jun 2017 #30
Trump voter?? Vinca Jun 2017 #31
Not voting again, unless the Russians assist him. nt NCjack Jun 2017 #43
He is indeed now a YouTube star. DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #47
Sadly ironic, but YouTube would probably delete/block this video. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #68
Darwin's work is never done. Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #52
Tragic - just a kid n/t moonscape Jun 2017 #54
Yes. RelativelyJones Jun 2017 #58
Yeah, that's upsetting. Had he just managed to get through a couple more years then xor Jun 2017 #60
More testing before the stunt may have helped. ileus Jun 2017 #61
Even if the book stops a bullet, there's a good test: JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #69
Must Have Not Seen The Mythbusters Episode ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #66
 

Billy Jingo

(77 posts)
2. I cannot express how much I truly loathe the concept of a "Darwin Award"
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 09:54 AM
Jun 2017

There is a dehumanizing and ugly depth to such a callous joke.

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
7. I just read a whole thread about "Christians" saying the same to addicts of opiates.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:02 AM
Jun 2017

Personally, I am astonished anyone would be so stupid, and sad for the loss and all loved ones will experience reliving this stupid.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
12. I think it's similar
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

Youtube makes money off this crap, people get an adrenaline rush off it , it's very addicting.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
36. Segments of the human race have always been stupid enough to die stupidly. Youtube shouldn't get
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jun 2017

credit for human nature.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. People of less intelligence deserve to die
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

Or, say, people who voluntarily travel to an oppressive place like North Korea.

Do I understand you correctly?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
32. everyone dies some day.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jun 2017

traveling to a foreign country (unless it's Syria) also not the same as pointing a loaded gun at someone and firing because they think a book will stop a bullet. Like, maybe test that thesis first before acting as the target?

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
35. Killing yourself is different than someone else killing you
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jun 2017

It's not like someone is going around looking for simple minded people to kill off the weak ones to strengthen the herd.

The individuals involved chose to do this.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. Person dies climbing Mount Everest
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jun 2017

Very common headline.

Did they choose to attempt something that a lot of people die doing? Yes.

So, also Darwin or not Darwin?

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
38. It's certainly not the mountain's fault
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jun 2017

I would rather die while mountain climbing than by getting shot by a friend for a youtube prank

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
46. Either way, no one needs to do either risky thing
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

I'm going to assume that you have no mountain climbing experience, so that climbing Everest would be as foolhardy as the book thing.

But someone could easily not understand what it takes to make an Everest attempt, and just go off and try it. I don't see a distinction.

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
48. We all make choices in life
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 02:55 PM
Jun 2017

Some choose to research and train for it. Some might be tempted by the prospect of fame or wealth. Or some may be pressured by someone. But it's not like someone came along and shot him out of spite. Or dropped him on a mountain. Who else is responsible for this?

I've made terrible choices in my life that cause people to judge me harshly.

What are you getting at?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
22. Killing yourself is the ultimate "dehumanizing". Doing it by stupidity is ugly.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jun 2017

The victim (of his own stupidity) dehumanized himself.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
27. Thought you were talking about the election...
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

Dehumanizing and ugly depth to such a callous joke.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. There's no better way to advertise our own cleverness
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jun 2017

There's no better way to advertise our own self-defined cleverness than by pointing to someone else's mistakes.

Broadcast media has this down... reality shows allowing us the pretense that we're better than others.

Many DU posts follow that same formulate: dim the lights of others so ours shine that much more brightly.


Nitram

(22,791 posts)
45. Actually, Lantern, I think many of us find the Darwin Award concept amusing because we..
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jun 2017

have all done really stupid things and feel very lucky to have survived. It's a "there but for the grace of god go I" kind of thing. Not an "I'm smarter because he was stupid" kind of thing.

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
64. It could also be a deterrent
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jun 2017

as a warning to others. People can learn from mistakes, even when it's someone else's mistakes.

Anytime I venture over to Freeperville or see any headline about our president I instantly feel very clever and better than others. For example: while we are making ourselves feel clever by looking down on this couple for a self-inflicted gun death in pursuit of fame and wealth, Freepers are saying these two deserve to die for being Latino. They claim there is no reason for Latinos to live in rural Minnesota or have a powerful .50 cal Desert Eagle designed to shoot through bulletproof things so they must be gang members. A Latino freeper called them out on it.

Pointing out that someone chose to have a dangerous weapon fired at his chest is quite different than claiming someone deserves to die. Some folks can't seem to understand that distinction.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
41. It is known as black humor. Some of us find it amusing what some humans will do to
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

impress other people. The "Here, hold my beer and watch this" syndrome. Look at it as a warning to young people not to risk their lives doing something really stupid. Nobody wants other people to think they are stupid. Might save some lives.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
63. I love the Gashlycrumb Tinies
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 06:40 AM
Jun 2017

But here's the thing. They're not real.

Joking about real people this way is not funny.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
53. Never forget that half the people in the world have below average I.Q.s
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jun 2017

Natural selection has been at work for billions of years and isn't going to stop because some humans object to it.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. From a heist-thriller with Gene Hackman: (forgot title)
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jun 2017

- "There was this guy. He always had a Bible tucked in the pocket of his shirt. Thought it would save him. One day he got into a firefight and, wouldn't you believe it, he got hit into the chest and the Bible stopped the bullet."

- "Whoa! He lived?"

- "No, he got a second bullet to the face."

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. See, this is what happens when they cancel Mythbusters
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jun 2017

Guess the idiot never got to watch this episode

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
65. Yeah - Mythbusters covered it pretty well in 2010
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

And showed that "up to a 50 cal phone books stopped everything."

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
67. Darn It
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 02:36 PM
Jun 2017

I should have read the thread before i posted a reply to the OP. I went the same place, Snooper.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
8. I would be surprised if the prosecutor gets a conviction.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jun 2017

I would think she gets a plea deal. There is nothing gained by sending her to prison.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
20. re:"There is nothing gained by sending her to prison."
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jun 2017

Well, it would keep another moron off the streets, that's something.

But yeah, though I don't know all the details, prison might not be the best resolution here.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
9. Probably watched a little too much Sopranos
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jun 2017

And thought the book in front of the chest thing worked in real life.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. According to another story, Ruiz supposedly
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jun 2017

shot a similar book in his backyard and the bullet didn't go all the way through, and that's how he got the idea for this youtube vid that maybe a few thousand would have watched if he was successful...

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
39. There was an episode where Phil Leotardo did a mock exection of Lorraine Calluzzo
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jun 2017

He put a phone book on her chest and shot at her through the book, and the bullet didn't go all the way through. I'm wondering if that's where the idea came from in the first place.

R Merm

(405 posts)
10. Doing this with any gun is stupid,
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:21 AM
Jun 2017

but doing this with a .50 caliber handgun as opposed to a .22 or even a .38 is beyond stupid.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
13. A .50 caliber
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jun 2017

They use that to kill boar don't they?

That would probably punch through a Kevlar vest.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. Keep treating guns like toys and this outcome is as predictable as the sunrise...
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jun 2017

Too bad he didn't set aside some of that jack he was burning on Gold Desert Eagles and ammo for life insurance...

llmart

(15,536 posts)
25. LOL!
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

I don't know why that struck me as funny, though I doubt someone as stupid as this guy would have a copy of that lying around.

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
21. Scientific Data
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jun 2017

Scientists would have tested the book several times without a live human to obtain
data on the probability of such book acting as bulletproof vest.

But on the plus side, as you now know, this encyclopedia book proves there are holes in knowledge!

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
24. This Shtick Might Have Worked In The Nineteenth Century
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jun 2017

But even non-enthusiasts like me know that 19th century blackpowder bullets had slower muzzle velocities.

Death by misadventure. Stunts like this should be left to the history books.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
68. Sadly ironic, but YouTube would probably delete/block this video.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jun 2017

Or, I hope they would.

So much for stardom.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
52. Darwin's work is never done.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

Next big headline: Mankind thought global warming was no big deal. Now they're extinct.

xor

(1,204 posts)
60. Yeah, that's upsetting. Had he just managed to get through a couple more years then
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:05 AM
Jun 2017

maybe he would have developed some common sense that told him this is a bad idea. I'm not sure if people are becoming slower to develop this common sense, but I don't recall being that dumb at 19. But over the past few years I've interacted with a fair share of people around that age and was always amazed about how they didn't seem too fond of critical thinking. Maybe I'm just getting old.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
69. Even if the book stops a bullet, there's a good test:
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:16 PM
Jun 2017

Test: hold the book to your chest, have some big guy hit it with a sledgehammer.

That should approximate a "successful" bullet stoppage.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
66. Must Have Not Seen The Mythbusters Episode
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jun 2017

They tried that with a cigarette lighter, eyeglass case, and a novel. Stopped almost nothing. Now, multiple phone books worked to bullet proof a car, but he missed that episode too.

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