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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:16 AM Jul 2017

Don Jr. just released the full Russia emails and they contain a potential smoking gun - read them...

Source: RawStory


Don Jr. just released the full Russia emails and they contain a potential smoking gun — read them here

BRAD REED
11 JUL 2017 AT 11:12 ET

Doonald Trump Jr. on Tuesday released the entire set of emails between himself and music publicist Rob Goldstone — and they contain explicit promises of support from “Russia and its government for Mr. Trump.”

Trump Jr. took to Twitter and posted copies of the emails, which he said he was releasing for the sake of transparency.




Developing…

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/don-jr-just-released-the-full-russia-emails-and-they-contain-a-potential-smoking-gun-read-them-here/



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Russian Dirt on Clinton? ‘I Love It,’ Donald Trump Jr. Said

By JO BECKER, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZOJULY 11, 2017

The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was offering to provide the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

If the future president’s elder son was surprised or disturbed by the provenance of the promised material — or the notion that it was part of an ongoing effort by the Russian government to aid his father’s campaign — he gave no indication.

He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

Four days later, after a flurry of emails, the intermediary wrote back, proposing a meeting in New York on Thursday with a “Russian government attorney.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html

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Don Jr. just released the full Russia emails and they contain a potential smoking gun - read them... (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
Did he get dropped on his head? Adrahil Jul 2017 #1
Seriously! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #14
What really scares me is this is the kind of clumsy, bumbling indifference Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #37
There you go! Consequences are for little people Maeve Jul 2017 #40
Not to give Fredo a pass..but did the russians hack his email or is it from asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #2
Jr. released the emails himself on Twitter -nt Bradical79 Jul 2017 #44
I was just about to post this. Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #3
What's the catch here? awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #4
I mean ... Cosmocat Jul 2017 #6
I think that what we are missing here maxrandb Jul 2017 #19
Ugh. Ryan/McConnell telling Jr. to tweet the emails is certainly a sickening thought. Corvo Bianco Jul 2017 #29
Yes, he did -- but either doesn't think he did, or doesn't think he'll get in trouble obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #47
He's using this to cover up worse Dopers_Greed Jul 2017 #5
I think you are on to something.... FarPoint Jul 2017 #16
He can deflect and distract the media, but he can't stop the FBI. Qutzupalotl Jul 2017 #26
Junior's republican-russian pal, "Rob" (hint, hint) Goldstone Achilleaze Jul 2017 #7
Living proof of human-pig hybrids jmbar2 Jul 2017 #18
republican-russian soul rot Achilleaze Jul 2017 #27
For sure Hieronymus Jul 2017 #31
+1 dalton99a Jul 2017 #42
NYT article on this issue: Russian Dirt on Clinton? I Love It, Donald Trump Jr. Said.... riversedge Jul 2017 #8
What part is the smoking gun? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #9
Seriously? Adrahil Jul 2017 #23
I did Not Ruth Jul 2017 #35
20committee is Team Patriot verified as an NSA spook specializing in Russian counter intelligence Not Ruth Jul 2017 #36
I could be wrong but isn't this the same guy awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #50
Beats me and yes Not Ruth Jul 2017 #51
"part of Russia and its governments support for Mr. Trump" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #25
Trump jr needs to be impeached immediately GhostofJFK Jul 2017 #38
stop obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #49
lulz obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #48
The older emails are still missing Renew Deal Jul 2017 #10
But the font is wrong - it's Fake News jpak Jul 2017 #11
That's what they suggested on The View. cyndensco Jul 2017 #13
I don't believe anything coming from Trumpland. Too easy to fabricate stuff. Wait on Mueller iluvtennis Jul 2017 #12
That's what I'm thinking. Ligyron Jul 2017 #15
There's only one reason for Fredo to release this email chain. displacedtexan Jul 2017 #17
So it looks like he was trying to preempt the NYT Adrahil Jul 2017 #20
Or he's laying the groundwork meadowlander Jul 2017 #45
This is a clear violation of campaign finance laws neohippie Jul 2017 #21
Schiff needs to lock down the Russian spy lawyer and offer her a deal Not Ruth Jul 2017 #22
3 people leaked the email to the NY Times Not Ruth Jul 2017 #24
Or, someone on their staffs with access to the information? herding cats Jul 2017 #30
sad but true downside bora13 Jul 2017 #28
Thank God for the NYT. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #32
Fredo trump says "I love it"..... Paladin Jul 2017 #33
You know Donnie Two Scoops is just going to pardon them. aquamarina Jul 2017 #34
Maybe he thinks daddy has the get out of jail free card. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #39
can somebody be that stupid??? please do not answer. eezapata Jul 2017 #41
The smoking gun canetoad Jul 2017 #43
His attorney probably just fainted -- what the actual hell obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #46
These are the missing emails SWBTATTReg Jul 2017 #52
Sure sounds like treason to me!! String 'em all up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #53
I missed this - Charles Pierce says Donny forwarded the emails to Kushner and Manafort, so they knew muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #54

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
14. Seriously!
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jul 2017

I knew this bunch were idiotic, but this is just too jaw-droppingly stupid for words. His mobbed-up lawyer has got to be having a coronary about now.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. What really scares me is this is the kind of clumsy, bumbling indifference
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jul 2017

people show when they're convinced they won't get in trouble or have to face the consequences of their actions

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
40. There you go! Consequences are for little people
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jul 2017

Not for someone born with a golden T in his mouth.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Not to give Fredo a pass..but did the russians hack his email or is it from
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jul 2017

inside the WH - no one is this stupid...right????

Shell_Seas

(3,330 posts)
3. I was just about to post this.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jul 2017

Statement: "The woman was not a government official"

2nd email page: "Erin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and the Russian Government attorney."

....It's in the same damn Tweet.

This:



awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
4. What's the catch here?
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jul 2017

What are we missing here?? Did he just basically confess and offer tangible proof at the same time??

maxrandb

(15,313 posts)
19. I think that what we are missing here
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jul 2017

is that they are about to pass their fucked up "wealthy"-care plan.

I would not put it past the fucking treasonous bastards.

Some of these Russian National Committee (RNC) pricks and ReTrumplican dickheads need to go to fucking Federal "pound you in the ass" Prison.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
29. Ugh. Ryan/McConnell telling Jr. to tweet the emails is certainly a sickening thought.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jul 2017

Please let it just be unprovoked stupidity.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
5. He's using this to cover up worse
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jul 2017

Probably an agreement to sink the money laundering investigations in exchange for help in the election

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
16. I think you are on to something....
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jul 2017

Look at how casually comfortable they are conversing...olde pals tone...yes, I believe there is much more prior conversation data that is deep.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
7. Junior's republican-russian pal, "Rob" (hint, hint) Goldstone
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jul 2017

freaking republicans pissing on America and American democracy. Disgusting.

riversedge

(70,180 posts)
8. NYT article on this issue: Russian Dirt on Clinton? I Love It, Donald Trump Jr. Said....
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jul 2017

Donny Jr. seems obvious to the fact that he is dealing with a foreign adversary of the US
! He is as much of an idiot as Trump Sr!!

Lots of detail in this article.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65556520&pgtype=article



Russian Dirt on Clinton? ‘I Love It,’ Donald Trump Jr. Said

Jo Becker, Adam Goldman and Matt Apuzzo

6-7 minutes

The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was offering to provide the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

If the future president’s elder son was surprised or disturbed by the provenance of the promised material — or the notion that it was part of an ongoing effort by the Russian government to aid his father’s campaign — he gave no indication.

He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

Four days later, after a flurry of emails, the intermediary wrote back, proposing a meeting in New York on Thursday with a “Russian government attorney.”..........................






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Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
36. 20committee is Team Patriot verified as an NSA spook specializing in Russian counter intelligence
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 01:16 PM
Jul 2017

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
50. I could be wrong but isn't this the same guy
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jul 2017

who was sending pics of his junk?

Please tell me "Team Patriot" is not Mensch/Taylor??

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
25. "part of Russia and its governments support for Mr. Trump"
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jul 2017

So Trump Jr. knew the Russian government was supporting Trump in material ways. And he doesn't question "part of" - which says there are other parts to it, and Donny wasn't surprised by that. He just invites the campaign manager and Trump's son-in-law to hear this part.

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
13. That's what they suggested on The View.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jul 2017

They said it may be a set up so the left bites and the WH can say, "See. Fake news!"

Whoopi mentioned Rachel Maddow's report last week about fake documentation floating around and warned that this tweet might be that.

They also wondered why jr's new attorney would allow him to tweet this whether real or fake.

Regardless, they agreed this is going to piss of Mueller et al.

It IS a madhouse!

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
17. There's only one reason for Fredo to release this email chain.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jul 2017

Someone else was about to release it first, and it would be slightly better for Fredo to release it and get out ahead of the story.

My guess is that someone from the NYT called for a comment before running this story, and Fredo's lawyer advised his client to release the info first.

I think Goldstone could be the weak link in this whole, ponderous chain of Russian/Trump activity.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
20. So it looks like he was trying to preempt the NYT
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jul 2017

MSNBC is reporting that the NYT intended to publish the emails and asked Junior for comment. He did not reply and published them himself, presumably to try and control the narrative.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
22. Schiff needs to lock down the Russian spy lawyer and offer her a deal
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jul 2017

Junior comes across as stupid, really really stupid. Too stupid to be able to explain what was happening here, since he still does not appear to understand. This whole thing is classic Russian spy recruiting. So ask the Russian spy lawyer about what was happening.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
24. 3 people leaked the email to the NY Times
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jul 2017

Besides Junior, there are only 3 other people on the email.

That means Jared, Manafort and Goldstone all leaked this email to the NY Times.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
30. Or, someone on their staffs with access to the information?
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jul 2017

I've had access to my employer's emails several different times before in the past. Which makes that another possible avenue of the release to the NYT.

bora13

(860 posts)
28. sad but true downside
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jul 2017

to all of this comeuppance.
You know damn well the hard-tRumpians will
lash out at something.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
33. Fredo trump says "I love it".....
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jul 2017

....and they want us to believe that trump senior had no knowledge of all this while it was going down? BullSHIT. Fredo passed every shred of this on, saying "Daddy! Daddy! Daddy! Lookie what I did for you!" Treasonous motherfuckers.

And I love how the media keeps comparing all this to what Al Gore did with a Bush playbook that fell into his hands: Gore turned it over to the FBI immediately, without opening it---like he damned well should have.

canetoad

(17,148 posts)
43. The smoking gun
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017

Is that this is nowhere near the *full email chain. Those symbols on the left of the text - >
one for each reply.

obamanut2012

(26,063 posts)
46. His attorney probably just fainted -- what the actual hell
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jul 2017

These people are so fucking stupid, it is mindboggling.

Why is he not being arrested??? Or condemned by EVERYONE in Congress???

SWBTATTReg

(22,097 posts)
52. These are the missing emails
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jul 2017

I know Trump has been saying where is HC's missing emails, Russia, pls. find them, etc., etc., etc.
Looks like Trump was wrong on who's missing the emails, and forgot to look under his own rocks for the 'missing' emails. Ha!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
54. I missed this - Charles Pierce says Donny forwarded the emails to Kushner and Manafort, so they knew
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jul 2017

as well that this was billed as the Russian government trying to influence the American election for them.

---snip---
The email chain makes clear that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Further, it also makes plain that not only Junior, but also Manafort and Kushner knew the campaign had done so because Junior was kind enough to forward the emails to them. He incriminated himself. He incriminated the other two. He made a lie out of practically everything that the Trump camp has said on the subject for over a year. He landed a clean shot below the waterline of his father's administration. Again, I thought of Nixon, standing behind a podium in the White House, while the tape from June 23, 1972 unspooled to an eager world, and then telling the assembled press corps, "See? It's just like I said. I'm not involved." It also was announced that Junior would appear with Sean Hannity on Tuesday night. I fully expected Junior to show up on the set dressed as an evil boyar from an Eisenstein film.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56258/donald-trump-jr-email/

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