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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:09 PM Jul 2017

GOP Drops Tax Cuts for Big Earners in Revised Health Bill, Sources Say

Source: Bloomberg

Senate Republican leaders dropped provisions that would repeal two taxes on high earners in a revised draft of their health-care bill sent to the Congressional Budget Office, according to GOP senators.

Republican leaders are now planning to retain Obamacare’s 3.8 percent tax on net investment income for people who earn more than $200,000 and couples with incomes over $250,000, as well as a 0.9 percent Medicare surtax on the same incomes.

Those two tax increases generate nearly $231 billion in revenue over a decade, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. Leaving them in place could create a way to cover the costs of expanded Medicaid coverage for the poor or other programs demanded by holdout moderate Republicans.

“Obviously that’s a direction I think that a lot of our members want to move, to keep some of those in place and use the revenues to put into other places in the bill where it can make a difference,” John Thune of South Dakota, the No. 3 Senate Republican, said Tuesday. The decision to explore changes was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/gop-said-to-drop-tax-cuts-for-big-earners-in-revised-health-bill

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GOP Drops Tax Cuts for Big Earners in Revised Health Bill, Sources Say (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2017 OP
Will they lose the Teabaggers if they do this? wryter2000 Jul 2017 #1
Yep.... paleotn Jul 2017 #15
Of course! wryter2000 Jul 2017 #27
My bet is on them to split it first with a healthcare bill that screws over millions then once that cstanleytech Jul 2017 #2
So right...split..and then spit in the eye of all Americans.... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #5
Agree hibbing Jul 2017 #7
Yup, Parte Deux! no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #26
Cant see the t-baggers in the house or the Senate going along with this n2doc Jul 2017 #3
What about Medicaid...not specifically indicated they would keep it AS IS iluvtennis Jul 2017 #4
And this has what to do with HEALTH INSURANCE, exactly? B Stieg Jul 2017 #6
in fairness, these 2 taxes were introduced in the aca as a way to fund the whole thing. unblock Jul 2017 #10
That's not what I wrote... B Stieg Jul 2017 #18
i predicted this years ago. unblock Jul 2017 #8
It takes only a vote later to cut the taxes once the ACA is destroyed the budget deal is next gfwzig Jul 2017 #9
That vote could be filibustered. onenote Jul 2017 #20
Anything that splinters republicans is good beachbum bob Jul 2017 #11
What is the rule about only needing 50 votes? greymattermom Jul 2017 #12
Lets put this in complete perspective to this BS turbinetree Jul 2017 #13
I am not impressed. It's still a tax cut bill, not a healthcare bill. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #14
"GOP Drops Tax Cuts for Big Earners" - for now to make it look good. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #16
Pictures scene in a couple months... forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #17
If they get the right to bite off.. Casprings Jul 2017 #19
they are not interested in making healthcare "work" Skittles Jul 2017 #23
Work as in.. Casprings Jul 2017 #24
YOU KNOW IT CASPRINGS Skittles Jul 2017 #25
don't plagiarize, steal & rewrite ACA Republicans, that costs to much!! KEEP ACA and improve it! Sunlei Jul 2017 #21
Damn! Now that they've done that Turbineguy Jul 2017 #22

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
15. Yep....
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jul 2017

They'll probably lose a handful of the most repugnant Senators and It only takes 3 intransigents to gum up the works. Even if they get 50, this version stands absolutely zero chance in the House.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
2. My bet is on them to split it first with a healthcare bill that screws over millions then once that
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:14 PM
Jul 2017

passes they will go with the tax cuts to screw over millions more.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
7. Agree
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jul 2017

For the last 50? years, that is all the party has stood for, tax cuts for the ruling class. I am curious as to how many Democrats will vote for the tax cuts.


Peace

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. Cant see the t-baggers in the house or the Senate going along with this
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:20 PM
Jul 2017

No way they support more medicare coverage.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
6. And this has what to do with HEALTH INSURANCE, exactly?
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jul 2017

You know, the subject of the alleged bill?

For example, are folks like me with pre-existing conditions going to be able to get--let alone afford--health insurance?

Hello?

Hello?

Screw you, Mitch.

unblock

(52,183 posts)
10. in fairness, these 2 taxes were introduced in the aca as a way to fund the whole thing.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:39 PM
Jul 2017

so they are certainly *relevant* to any repeal/replace/modify aca discussion.


i'm glad they're so dysfunctional they couldn't even agree among themselves to cut these taxes, though. our taxes generally have lost so much progressivity and it's good to have somethings that only hit high earners.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
18. That's not what I wrote...
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jul 2017

The GOP focus here is on redistributing wealth, not on making a workable, sustainable HEALTH care plan. Yet the "plan" is called the BCRA, where the "C" stands for "Care." As a former member of OFA I know how the ACA was funded and why. As you imply, these guys have little idea what the costs of what they're trying to fund may actually be, because they view the plan as a way to cut taxes, not as a way to deliver care. I really wasn't trying to assess the entire process.

This sort of needless, linguistic nit-picking is one reason that visiting or commenting on DU is often an unpleasant experience, even when the only thing that's intended is agreement. From now on, please respond to what's actually written rather than looking for opportunities to make yourself look clever. They might just piss somebody off.

unblock

(52,183 posts)
8. i predicted this years ago.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:32 PM
Jul 2017

i've always said that the push to repeal the aca was purely political theater, as this largely is the heritage foundation. conservative, market-based solution. had a republican, e.g., mitt rmoney, proposed it instead, republicans would have lined up behind it (admittedly, though, it would have had a more regressive tax structure supporting it).


anyway, my view has long been that if their only "plan" would be to change the name and get rid of the "mandate" and replace it with largely equivalent "incentives".

so they'll repeal obamacare and replace it with trumpcare, which looks remarkably similar, but no mandate/penalty. instead there will be a tax deduction (or maybe credit) if you do buy qualifying insurance.

inevitably, they'll make it worse in subtler ways, because that's what republicans do, but at a high level, it'll largely be the same as obamacare.


they get a "win" out of this and can move on to their next dastardly plot.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
13. Lets put this in complete perspective to this BS
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 05:17 PM
Jul 2017

Notice the term "net investment income", not fucking "earned income", but "investment income", that is an entirely different tax ( net investment income)

Net Investment tax break:

A tax break is a savings on a taxpayer's liability. A tax break provides a savings through tax deductions, tax credits, tax exemptions and other incentives.

An amount that businesses are allowed by law to deduct from their taxes, reflecting an amount they reinvest in themselves.

Note : Investment tax credits are structured to reward and encourage economic growth.



Earned Income Tax Break:

The United States federal earned income tax credit or earned income credit (EITC or EIC) is a refundable tax credit for low- to moderate-income working individuals and couples, particularly those with children. The amount of EITC benefit depends on a recipient's income and number of children.


forgotmylogin

(7,524 posts)
17. Pictures scene in a couple months...
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 06:42 PM
Jul 2017

The Republicans all gather in a room to witness the new AHCA.

They whip off the dropcloth.

"But it's shaped like the ACA."

"Yeah, see, we moved the C and the A apart and added an H."

"Brilliant, Paul."

"And see, it's not Obamacare!"

:peals of applause:

Casprings

(347 posts)
19. If they get the right to bite off..
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jul 2017

Gives them more money to actually make something work. I just don't think in the end you can count on Cruz and others to stop this.

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