Ryan moves to 'modernize' dress code of Speaker's lobby
Source: Politico
By RACHAEL BADE 07/13/2017 12:42 PM EDT
Speaker Paul Ryan has asked a top House chamber official to modernize the Speakers Lobby dress code after being pummeled in the media for a long-held rule that women must cover their shoulders in a hallway outside the House floor.
The Wisconsin Republican in a news conference Thursday said he has asked the House sergeant-at-arms to revisit and update business dress requirements that bar women from wearing sleeveless and open-toed shoes. The dress code also requires men to wear jackets and a tie, though that requirement has largely escaped recent criticism.
Decorum is important, especially for this institution, and a dress code in the chamber and in the lobby makes sense, Ryan said. But we also dont need to bar otherwise accepted contemporary business attire, so look for a change on that soon.
Ryan has faced an onslaught of attacks in fashion publications and on social media, with critics suggesting the rules reek of sexism and blaming him personally. The rules for women and men, however, have been in place and enforced for decades, including under former Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/dress-code-speaker-lobby-paul-ryan-240508
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)It is impossible to set rules that hold fairly in all situations for women.I was going to say the no open toe shies is ridiculous,but I can see why even that was written.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Certainly a pump with an open toe is fine but how do you draw a line between that and a sandal. If a sandal is ok ,how to you reject flip flops?
I just think I understand why the simple way was to say no bare shoulders and no open toe shoes.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I think flip flops should be ok..
for anybody.
mpcamb
(2,868 posts)What a chump!
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)These stylish republican uniforms for the Little Ladies of America will make the Republican War on Women a lot easier to track.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)at the Texas state capitol and a state rep's office. The costume designer for the show has offered help in getting the costumes right, and a few of the actors have expressed admiration for the movement. It's an amazing movement.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)flt rsk
(92 posts)in a hand basket and Ryan is upset with the possibility of seeing womens arms and toes. Maybe he is worried the distraction will kick in one or more of his fetishes.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)better spent re-instating the ETHICS rules in office. Is someone on the gop turned on by naked shoulders and toes? Certainly would not be Addison Mitchell McConnell, he likes "boys"
hibbing
(10,094 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)while screwing millions of women out of healthcare in ways that will result in people dying.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)If he sees a particularly shapely fire hydrant, he has to excuse himself and think about nuns and truck tires. Imagine what toe-peeps and (gasp!) bare shoulders do to the poor man!
Jesus.
LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)I get the impression they were from internet-based media.
Their sandals had a "going to the beach" look.
I think open-toe is fine as long as it is "business".
Their dresses were a bit too short too.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Forcing men to wear oppressively hot jackets and constricting ties sounds like Matriarchy.
There was a time when women weren't allowed to wear pants and they tried to throw out Senator Carol Mosely-Braun because having a rule against dark skin would have been too obvious. Most Democratic women wear suits anyway.
It seems like Republican women are the ones fighting the good fight in dresses
here are Congresswomen from 1965
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Funny, too.
I certainly want to see them in tank tops.
The rules have been around since forever. People who had no problem with them a decade ago now act like somehow the current House folk put them into effect.
They're mostly enforced for the men. If the men are going to be oppressive, sleeves for women vs coats and ties for men hardly strikes me as patriarchal.
Now, dresses for women when it's 5 degrees out and windy might be oppressive. That's not the issue.
(It pays to remember a bit of research that works for both men and women: The more skin exposed, the more you're seen to be governed by emotion and less governed by intellect. When women want to be professional, they cover more; when they want to be seen as sexy, they cover less. We may not like it, but please, if you don't like it do feel free to engage in some engineering of your (own) genes that are expressed in the brain and hormonal systems. This one seems to be less nurture and more nature, although, to be sure, we can probably condition people to override nature. Fashion and trends often do.)
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)in which Senator Mosely-Braun got it changed because of how idiotic it was. Some women would prefer pant suits.
But it's seems a bit odd that now Republican women are fighting for the right to wear sleeveless dresses and open toed shoes while Democratic women in the past were fighting for the right to wear pant suits.
I get it. It's hot and humid here in DC and many old buildings have faulty air conditioning. It's fine with me if they modernize the Congress dress code, but I think it's a bit hypocritical that Republican women like Martha McSally are acting as if they are fighting for women's rights. She's from Arizona where it is 117 degrees.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Because then they could look at less important things like climate change, health care, jobs, college tuition--that kind of thing. You know, those silly little concerns that tend to fall through the cracks.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Offensive enough that marital status is even stated for women (it's Mr for all male Congress obviously) every time there is a role call vote in either Chamber.
These women are as duly elected Senators and Congressional Representatives as their male counterparts. Why is their gender stated in every single role call vote. They should pass a motion to address all as Senators, Congressperson and only that. Everything else is
egregiously sexist and beyond cringeworthy.
How come this odious relic of the 50's has remained accepted procedure in our highest federal legislative venue?
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)She is wearing sleeveless dresses in many of her recent pictures in work-related settings.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)...that the "sleeveless dress, open toe shoes and plenty of makeup" look that Speaker Ryan is trying to get approved for female representatives to wear while conducting official business is also the Women of Fox News look. It appears there are Republican members of Congress who are planning to build Fox News audition reels.