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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:49 PM Jul 2017

Leaked draft of Rick Perry grid study debunks his attack on renewable energy

Source: Think Progress

Back in April, Energy Secretary Rick Perry ordered a study to back up his claims that solar and wind power were undermining the U.S. electric grid’s reliability.

That’s why it was a surprise when Bloomberg reported Friday that a July draft leaked to them concluded essentially the opposite: “The power system is more reliable today due to better planning, market discipline, and better operating rules and standards.”

The leaked draft was completed by Department of Energy (DOE) career staff, however, and thus subject to change by Perry and his team of Trump appointees. So the big question is whether the Trump administration will erase those findings in the final draft, the way they appear to be erasing so many other inconvenient truths.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/leaked-rick-perry-grid-study-9bce98a50f70



I guess so..........................what else can happen, they lie here, they lie there, whats a little lying.................





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Leaked draft of Rick Perry grid study debunks his attack on renewable energy (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2017 OP
They will probably not release that at all BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #1
Suggests the fearful right is nervous about the grid, in spite Hortensis Jul 2017 #2
The way it goes....... MyOwnPeace Jul 2017 #3
Small businesses and Residential customers are the baseload for utilities Finishline42 Jul 2017 #4
MO. Governor Eric Greitens SWBTATTReg Jul 2017 #5
This has been going on for decades. Back in the late 80s, early to mid 90s, I forget who, a concrete Hestia Jul 2017 #6
Good Points! SWBTATTReg Jul 2017 #7

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Suggests the fearful right is nervous about the grid, in spite
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jul 2017

of enormously funded years of denial, and needs to be reassured.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
3. The way it goes.......
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 08:01 PM
Jul 2017

we're told what the 1% (aka: Money barons) want us to know and we should be happy with them letting us pay them to enrich their money bags (and NOBODY in out government willing to help us or stop it!).

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
4. Small businesses and Residential customers are the baseload for utilities
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:24 AM
Jul 2017

Years ago I heard about a manufacturer in Rockford Illinois that was considering building their own electrical generating capacity. The local utility then came back with a lower rate that made the plant uneconomical (which was probably the goal all along!). Makes me wonder how may large users negotiate with utilities for lower rates? If they in fact get lower rates wouldn't it then be true that the utility is able to give them a lower rate as a result of thousands of smaller businesses and residential customers that have to pay retail for their electricity?

So then the reason the Koch's and others would be fighting wind and solar is because they will have higher utility cost because small businesses and residential customers could reduce what they buy from the utility company and reduce the ability of the utility to discount their product to the large users.

I know, convoluted and speculative but just the same it would explain why they are so against wind and solar. Could also be that they are heavily invested in oil and coal and see wind and solar as a threat.


SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
5. MO. Governor Eric Greitens
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jul 2017

Our famous governor called our MO state legislature to have a special session to allow special electric rates for a smelter operation and other large businesses in SE MO (for jobs supposedly). I thought was so unfair especially to the smaller businesses and residents in MO who now are subsidizing these larger businesses who are reaping the benefits of this legislation.

All businesses should stand on their own (free enterprise, right?, or, lets steal a company from across the MO border and bring the associated jobs to MO (and take away jobs from the other states bordering MO)). I'm surprised that the other states haven't sued MO yet to roll this back (I expect (or hope so)).

Link is: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/missouri/articles/2017-05-26/missouri-legislature-passes-electricity-rate-incentives

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
6. This has been going on for decades. Back in the late 80s, early to mid 90s, I forget who, a concrete
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jul 2017

company, rock crusher, something like that, had figured out a way to generate their own electricity from the output of their machinery. Quite brilliant, actually, as to how they could do it. They were immediately taken to court by AP&L (now Entergy) to ban this company, by law, from generating their own electricity. It seems, built into the code, only a utility could generate electricity, regardless if you keep it on site. They didn't want to sell their output, just generate their own.

There are codes like this all over the country, thanks in a large to the Kock Bros. They have told their legislative minions that anyone who put up solar panels and resell the overage back to the grid, are thieves of the system and need to be brutally punished by the utility only reimbursing pennies on the dollar for buy-back of solar energy to the grid.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-koch-brothers-dirty-war-on-solar-power-20160211

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
7. Good Points!
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jul 2017

You've made very good points and thanks for bringing up. Predatory capitalists will do anything to preserve their wealth by eliminating any possibility of competition, no matter what the costs or where it comes from (environmental or national security be damned!).

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