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Coventina

(27,110 posts)
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:35 AM Jul 2017

Arizona flash flood sweeps away family relaxing in swimming hole, killing 9

Source: Washington Post

It began as yet another scorching Saturday in central Arizona as scores of families flocked to the cool waters of a popular swimming hole, seeking relief from the 100-degree temperatures in the cities.

Among them was an extended family of 14 from Phoenix. They gathered at the Cold Springs swimming hole in the Tonto National Forest, near Payson, to celebrate Maria Raya’s 26th birthday, their relatives told local media.

At about 3 p.m., it was barely drizzling as the Raya family and others waded in the water and hiked along the narrow canyon, its scenic waterfall and granite rock formations in the backdrop.

Suddenly the adults and children swimming in the canyon heard a roar. As they turned to look upstream, they saw a massive wall of dark muddy water rushing toward them, carrying tree trunks and logs the sizes of vehicles, Ron Sattelmaier, Water Wheel Fire and Medical District fire chief, told The Washington Post, citing interviews with witnesses.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/17/az-flash-flood-sweeps-away-family-relaxing-in-swimming-hole-9-perish/?utm_term=.307bc2bb4ed9





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Arizona flash flood sweeps away family relaxing in swimming hole, killing 9 (Original Post) Coventina Jul 2017 OP
Please, please keep an eye on weather reports... Girard442 Jul 2017 #1
A cloudburst or thunderstorm 50 - 75 miles away can cause a flash flood hours later. haele Jul 2017 #4
It sounds like an insane day IronLionZion Jul 2017 #2
When reading stories like this not fooled Jul 2017 #3
I saw the video, my God those flash floods are terrifying! The Tonto National Forrest needs SIRENS. Sunlei Jul 2017 #5

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
1. Please, please keep an eye on weather reports...
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:08 AM
Jul 2017

...when near a stream in a rugged area. Also, check out the topography there too and realize that those picturesque rocks were probably not carved into those shapes by trickles of water.

haele

(12,649 posts)
4. A cloudburst or thunderstorm 50 - 75 miles away can cause a flash flood hours later.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:32 AM
Jul 2017

Especially in mountains/mesa-canyon terrains. You might not even be able to see the clouds on the horizon.
One should have both a terrain map and keep an ear on the weather reports for activity in areas that feed the place you're visiting - or at least make an attempt to find out from NOAA, the local forestry service/local officials before heading out. NOAA should have flash flood warnings.

It's a lot for a casual vacationer to consider, not to mention the average casual local.

Haele

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
2. It sounds like an insane day
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:09 AM
Jul 2017

from the article it said that area had experienced drought and wildfires recently which reduced the ability of the land to soak up rain water.

It was hailing so some of the family waited it out before heading to the watering hole. And it sounded like there was just very light sprinkling rain that would not indicate any chance of a flood.

Damn, it sounds like a case of very bad luck.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
3. When reading stories like this
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jul 2017

I always wonder whether the National Forest--in this case--is understaffed because of budget cuts, and whether previously there would have been perhaps warnings posted on roads leading to sites under threat of natural catastrophes.

Not saying that this was the case, just that it's a possibility.



And, condolences to the family. What an awful thing to have happen.

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