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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:15 PM Jul 2017

Eighth person in Trump Tower meeting is identified

Source: The Washington Post




By Rosalind S. Helderman July 18 at 12:05 PM

An American-based employee of a Russian real estate company took part in a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between a Russian lawyer and Donald Trump Jr., bringing to eight the number of known participants at the session that has emerged a key focus of the investigation of the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian.

Ike Kaveladze’s presence was confirmed by Scott Balber, an attorney for Emin and Aras Agalarov, the Russian developers who hosted the Trump-owned Miss Universe pageant in 2013. Balber said Kaveladze works for the Agalarovs’ company and attended as their representative.

Balber said Tuesday that he received a phone call from a representative of Special Counsel Robert Mueller over the weekend requesting the identity of the Agalarov representative , which he said he provided. The request is the first public indication that Mueller’s team is investigating the meeting.

Donald Trump Jr. agreed to take the meeting on the promise that he would be provided damaging information about Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian government to help his father’s presidential campaign, according to emails released by Trump Jr. last week.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eighth-person-in-trump-tower-meeting-is-identified/2017/07/18/e971234a-6bce-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?pushid=596e3389f1dad71d0000002c&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.ce0f6495b8f3

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Eighth person in Trump Tower meeting is identified (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
How do we know there were only eight people in the meeting? mainer Jul 2017 #1
Yep. nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #2
+1 padah513 Jul 2017 #4
Copy dat, pada! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #5
Or one of them was John Barron? Eyeball_Kid Jul 2017 #25
And then there's the speaker phone angle. Plucketeer Jul 2017 #6
Here's his linked in page for some background info (it's in both Russian and English): Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #3
Isn't the Crocus Group Agalarov's organization? nt PRETZEL Jul 2017 #12
Totally: Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #13
But the Trumpsters said he was an American jpak Jul 2017 #7
Real estate, huh? kentuck Jul 2017 #8
I wonder if he knows Wilbur Ross and has visited Cyprus, lately? turbinetree Jul 2017 #9
Good wonder, or how many degrees of separation and who? Hortensis Jul 2017 #17
Everything that these two crime organizations have in common is that everything turbinetree Jul 2017 #21
Looks like an international cabal of money launderers, Trumpy included. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2017 #27
Yes, Mueller and several of his hotshots. I don't believe Hortensis Jul 2017 #30
Every member on the opposite side of the table had some specific purpose. byronius Jul 2017 #10
Clearly by his resume someone well versed in child adoption Cosmocat Jul 2017 #11
Lotta people there to talk adoptions. Umm, not to be twisted but... mainer Jul 2017 #14
The pedophile sex slave operation on Mars? n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #16
DUzy! angrychair Jul 2017 #22
"Adoptions" is, pretty sure, this criminal group's code word for Magnitsky Act/Assc'd Sanctions ... mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #29
They haven't even begun to list the people who were on Skype. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #15
Follow the money this is bigly neohippie Jul 2017 #18
Another Russian! mobeau69 Jul 2017 #19
Reince Preibus entered the building at around 10:50 AM - any idea what time he left the building? 33taw Jul 2017 #20
Guess it wasn't Dolt 45 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #23
Mueller is already on this neohippie Jul 2017 #24
on to the 9th, 10th, 11th add in the entire Republican party & Putins gang on skype at the resort. Sunlei Jul 2017 #26
A lot of people sure went to a lot of trouble to keep this guy's name secret. displacedtexan Jul 2017 #28
Exclusive photo of the people in that meeting Yavin4 Jul 2017 #31

mainer

(12,018 posts)
1. How do we know there were only eight people in the meeting?
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:21 PM
Jul 2017

First it was four. Then it was six. Then it was eight. For all we know, there were others.

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
3. Here's his linked in page for some background info (it's in both Russian and English):
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jul 2017
https://ru.linkedin.com/in/ikekaveladze

A business executive with 10 years of financial management experience, Ike Kaveladze currently serves as Vice President of the Crocus Group in Moscow. The Crocus Group is the administrative arm of Crocus City, a trade, exhibition and entertainment space that features a hotel, a concert hall, a large indoor mall, and a number of small shops and restaurants.

Ike Kaveladze’s responsibilities with the Crocus Group include investment project development, regional business planning, and comprehensive tax preparation. Initially hired by the company as an analyst in 2004, Mr. Kaveladze was promoted to Vice President after five years of dedicated service. Due in part to his ongoing efforts, the Crocus Group recently refinanced a $550 million company loan portfolio at a substantially lower rate. This resulted in direct annual savings for Crocus totaling approximately $20 million.

In addition to his work as a business administrator, Ike Kaveladze is an experienced public speaker and presenter who has been featured at a number of industry conferences and special events. In 2002, Mr. Kaveladze appeared at the RBC’s 6th International Conference in Geneva and at the Southern Connecticut Chapter of the Tasters Guild International in New Haven, Connecticut.

Outside of the office, Ike Kaveladze volunteers with the Moscow Regional School for Blind Children. He also provides ongoing financial support to several large social service organizations including Save the Children and Hospice.ru, a Russian foundation that supports hospices for cancer patients. Mr. Kaveladze holds an undergraduate degree in Economics from the Moscow Academy of Finance in Russia and a Master of Business Administration from the University of New Haven in Connecticut.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
7. But the Trumpsters said he was an American
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

More lies.

On edit: Maybe he worked with the Russian mob to launder $$$ through US real estate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Good wonder, or how many degrees of separation and who?
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jul 2017

Hard to imagine it would be more than one, but they all link to Putin.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
21. Everything that these two crime organizations have in common is that everything
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jul 2017

went through Cyprus and then there is Wilbur Ross , coincidence, me thinks not, convenience yes.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
27. Looks like an international cabal of money launderers, Trumpy included.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:48 PM
Jul 2017

Mr. Mueller is likely aware and focusing on this torpedo.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Yes, Mueller and several of his hotshots. I don't believe
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jul 2017

Ross is coincidence either, although a reputable publication had an entire article about how he actually came in and cleaned that Cyprus bank up, including getting rid of whatshisface. If so, though, what's he doing involved with this crowd?

byronius

(7,391 posts)
10. Every member on the opposite side of the table had some specific purpose.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jul 2017

The op-ed from the intelligence guy in the Washington Post that said the meeting was a classic Russian intelligence operation. I wonder what Kaveladze brought to the table.

Maybe he was just cover, to put the Trumps at ease. Someone they had met, or knew through the Agalarovs.

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
11. Clearly by his resume someone well versed in child adoption
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jul 2017

cause ...

a half dozen lies ago that was what the meeting was about.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
14. Lotta people there to talk adoptions. Umm, not to be twisted but...
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jul 2017

What are those Russian orphans REALLY meant for?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. "Adoptions" is, pretty sure, this criminal group's code word for Magnitsky Act/Assc'd Sanctions ...
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jul 2017

Mueller, when scouring NSA records, should be MASSIVELY flagging the word 'adoptions' at this point.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
18. Follow the money this is bigly
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jul 2017

It looks like this is interesting link


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/11/29/business/laundering-of-money-seen-as-easy.html


A Congressional inquiry has found that it is ''relatively easy'' for foreigners to hide their identities and form shell companies here that can launder money through American banks.

In a a nine-month inquiry that subpoenaed bank records, the investigators found that an unknown number of Russians and other East Europeans moved more than $1.4 billion through accounts at Citibank of New York and the Commercial Bank of San Francisco.

The accounts had been opened by Irakly Kaveladze, who immigrated to the United States from Russia in 1991, according to Citibank and Mr. Kaveladze. He set up more than 2,000 corporations in Delaware for Russian brokers and then opened the bank accounts for them, without knowing who owned the corporations, according to the report by the General Accounting Office, which has not been made public.

The report said the banks had failed to conduct any ''due diligence'' into identifying the owners of the accounts.

Late this afternoon, Citibank sent a 15-page letter to the G.A.O., saying that it had closed the accounts after being contacted by G.A.O. investigators earlier this year.

''It is clear in hindsight that our systems and tracking procedures were not sufficient to detect the nature and extent of his relationship with us,'' the bank said, referring to Mr. Kaveladze. The letter, signed by the general counsel, Michael A. Ross, for the Global Consumer Business at Citigroup Inc., went on, ''Given enhancements to our systems and procedures, we are confident that we would detect questionable activity and take action more promptly should a similar situation arise today.''

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
28. A lot of people sure went to a lot of trouble to keep this guy's name secret.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:27 PM
Jul 2017

And the piss poor excuse for his attendance: he thought he was there to translate and didn't know the woman already had a translator? Seriously? What a crock of Trumpshit!

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