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John McCain diagnosed with brain cancer (Original Post) lanlady Jul 2017 OP
Yeah MFM008 Jul 2017 #1
Sorry to hear that rpannier Jul 2017 #2
I'm no political fan, but this does sadden me. That's about as bad as it gets. hlthe2b Jul 2017 #3
Yeah, no kidding. calimary Jul 2017 #14
Carter enid602 Jul 2017 #68
McCain's original melanoma was many years ago. This represents a late & very aggressive hlthe2b Jul 2017 #72
This is a glioblastoma, per the report I heard. Not related to melanoma as far as I know. nt Tess49 Jul 2017 #81
That's more recent info, then... hlthe2b Jul 2017 #83
I just heard it a few minutes ago. Tess49 Jul 2017 #87
Same as Sen. Kennedy no? BootinUp Jul 2017 #101
Yes. These tumors cannot be totally resected. They put out little feelers and implant in Tess49 Jul 2017 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author jzodda Jul 2017 #124
I heard on local radio that family said it marybourg Jul 2017 #111
Oh dear sarge43 Jul 2017 #4
OMGOSH.......so sorry to hear that...... a kennedy Jul 2017 #5
This is very sad news. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #6
Not really leftieNanner Jul 2017 #38
Yes, it does suck and I don't wish this suffering on anyone either. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #77
I think I read a few months ago that there is a marybourg Jul 2017 #114
Yes, it can increase survivability by 4-6 months Bradical79 Jul 2017 #119
My Mom was diagnosed with 2 at once. maxsolomon Jul 2017 #66
So sorry to hear that about your mother. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #74
Thanks - it was really hard on my father, but it's 10 years now. maxsolomon Jul 2017 #79
Can you pls explain what you meant by: if you get it, you basically just go to sleep. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #138
once the tumor gets large enough, you can't stay awake maxsolomon Jul 2017 #156
It's a good thing he has quality health care. Salviati Jul 2017 #7
I was thinking the exact same thought. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #13
While your assessment is probably right, I am not sure if he gave any indication how he was still_one Jul 2017 #45
it will be interesting to see drray23 Jul 2017 #71
No chance quakerboy Jul 2017 #113
I wonder if trump will call him a loser for getting cancer? Locrian Jul 2017 #143
+10,000 n/t Bengus81 Jul 2017 #145
Yeah...I agree 1000% with you. I hope John feels some compassion after all of this..... Bengus81 Jul 2017 #144
Sad to hear. I was hoping he would live long like his mother has been JI7 Jul 2017 #8
Going to pray for McCain Matthew28 Jul 2017 #9
i agree 100% and bluestarone Jul 2017 #122
Awful. GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #10
Why couldn't it have been McTurtle? Dopers_Greed Jul 2017 #11
McTurtle's is an advanced form of soul cancer. nt joet67 Jul 2017 #34
McConnell IS a malignant brain tumor. lastlib Jul 2017 #98
very evil people seem to live forever. nt elmac Jul 2017 #99
Mitch McConnell will never die jmowreader Jul 2017 #137
And that asshat Limbaugh............n't Bengus81 Jul 2017 #146
you know the oldest living turtle is like 184 right? snooper2 Jul 2017 #159
He is not the only American recently diagnosed with a life threatening disease jpak Jul 2017 #12
I respect John McCain like no other Senator. Missn-Hitch Jul 2017 #15
This explains the odd Comey questioning JI7 Jul 2017 #23
Just saw a WaPo breaking - link BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #16
I'm sorry to hear this. herding cats Jul 2017 #17
One of the only honorable GOPers left.... alittlelark Jul 2017 #18
His legacy? djg21 Jul 2017 #80
I have had some very pleasant daydreams about that alittlelark Jul 2017 #93
He could make up for punishing us with Sarah Palin. TNNurse Jul 2017 #100
I'm still not convinced that janx Jul 2017 #123
I don't think it was. tammywammy Jul 2017 #131
his legacy is forcing this on the national stage snooper2 Jul 2017 #160
Really sorry to hear that. nikibatts Jul 2017 #19
My wife's sister died from the same kind of cancer last year. Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #20
Sorry for your loss. eom LittleGirl Jul 2017 #24
My mother-in-law, also. narnian60 Jul 2017 #32
I have a first cousin who is in hospice, now, with a cancerous tumor in her brain. demosincebirth Jul 2017 #48
oh boy LittleGirl Jul 2017 #21
Godspeed John McCain Moostache Jul 2017 #22
I'm sorry to hear that. ananda Jul 2017 #25
I hate cancer. WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2017 #26
Is this the same type of brain cancer Ted Kennedy had? bathroommonkey76 Jul 2017 #27
Yes, it is. The irony is cosmic. n/t TygrBright Jul 2017 #50
President Jimmy Carter had brain and liver cancer and is now cancer free, they have some Thinkingabout Jul 2017 #28
Hopefully Mccain can end up like Carter but i think MCcain has a worse JI7 Jul 2017 #43
Wasn't Carter given 6 weeks to live after they had found out what kind of brain cancer he had? LiberalArkie Jul 2017 #64
No. former9thward Jul 2017 #133
Best wishes to Senator McCain dbackjon Jul 2017 #29
McCain has a unique opportunity to regain his position as a hero for the country he loves Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #30
And he's done that several times in the past. elleng Jul 2017 #42
(notwithstanding his selection of Sarah Palin........ ) lastlib Jul 2017 #102
Yes, even tho THAT! elleng Jul 2017 #104
I am no fan of John Mc Cain but being a cancer survivor myself, Grammy23 Jul 2017 #31
Same cancer sabbat hunter Jul 2017 #33
Glioblastoma, a bad type of brain cancer I think, not that ANY is good. elleng Jul 2017 #35
positive vibes being sent freddyvh Jul 2017 #36
diagnosed guss Jul 2017 #37
Link: janx Jul 2017 #105
ty guss Jul 2017 #165
For those who don't know the term "glioblastoma" DFW Jul 2017 #39
You are correct. Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #49
I suspect he will be offerred the latest in immunothreapies still_one Jul 2017 #58
Yes, it is a death sentence and McCain will not necessarily be able to be well enough to work nor Pachamama Jul 2017 #78
From what I recently read the average has gone up Bradical79 Jul 2017 #118
As far as I have seen DFW Jul 2017 #154
Very sad. Hope his GOP colleagues see that everyone eventually needs good healthcare. harun Jul 2017 #157
Don't hold your breath DFW Jul 2017 #163
My good vibes and prayers are with him and his family. As I'm a military vet, I iluvtennis Jul 2017 #40
McCain is from a different generation of Republican. My home state of Oregon had two liberal Repub yurbud Jul 2017 #54
Current batch of republicans: All thanks not fooled Jul 2017 #155
Which was so stupid of Trump.. EX500rider Jul 2017 #164
Oh no. :( SummerSnow Jul 2017 #41
Very sad mindfulNJ Jul 2017 #44
Don't care broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #46
Very sorry to hear this qanda Jul 2017 #47
My friend has same cancer in same area of brain mchill Jul 2017 #51
Come to think of it mchill Jul 2017 #55
we are all human beings. Times like these I'd rather go high. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #52
Well, that explains his bizarre questioning of Comey. Sad to hear it. It's a horrific way to go. catbyte Jul 2017 #53
I'll never forget the dirty trick Lee Atwater and Bush mobeau69 Jul 2017 #56
Here's an awful coincidence: Atwater died of an inoperable brain tumor, too. catbyte Jul 2017 #59
South Carolina was Rove. Atwater was way dead by then. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2017 #63
Thanks. I stand corrected. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #142
Ha! No problem. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2017 #147
Atwater had many regrets Skittles Jul 2017 #65
Do you believe that Atwater would have had those regrets if he wasn't terminal? I seriously still_one Jul 2017 #92
Atwater was Rove's mentor, and it was Atwater's legacy that rove and bush used in SC. still_one Jul 2017 #89
... shenmue Jul 2017 #57
Prayers benld74 Jul 2017 #60
Isn't glioblastoma the same cancer that Ted Kennedy had? csziggy Jul 2017 #61
Sad 40RatRod Jul 2017 #62
As a combat vet, He will always hold a special place with me............. Old Vet Jul 2017 #161
I'm truly sorry. Cancer is a monster. nolabear Jul 2017 #67
link to article alp227 Jul 2017 #69
This news popped up on my computer from WAPost a few minutes ago... janx Jul 2017 #70
deepest sympathies. I will pray for him and his family. deminks Jul 2017 #73
Sad for him, his family and the country. He had some honor. Shrike47 Jul 2017 #75
Unfortunate for him, but he is an old man... Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #76
I'm sorry to hear that.. whathehell Jul 2017 #82
I wish him well! He reminds me sometimes of 'old school' republicans and not RKP5637 Jul 2017 #84
On Twitter, Deplorable Donald's Deplorables are doing handstands. catbyte Jul 2017 #85
The republican party should somehow purge itself of these creatures, but they are Trump's kind of RKP5637 Jul 2017 #90
You should see tabloid Breitbart... n/t janx Jul 2017 #96
This is why I want nothing to do with those people. They are not normal or decent. nr Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #108
So sorry for him and his family. Nt BootinUp Jul 2017 #86
May blessings be on he and his family. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #88
Best wishes to you Sen. McCain CountAllVotes Jul 2017 #91
Dammit. Cancer just sux. HATE it. nt 7962 Jul 2017 #94
Sorry to hear this peggysue2 Jul 2017 #95
I am very sad with this news. Turbineguy Jul 2017 #97
Sad news, I wish him well Dorn Jul 2017 #103
Having been through 3 separate rounds of chemo over the past 5 years ReformedGOPer Jul 2017 #106
This is really bad news. Survival rates are low, and he's 80. Oh, my. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #107
That is the same cancer that killed my Dad Siwsan Jul 2017 #109
Glioblastoma. Ungood. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #110
A difficult time for him and his family. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #112
I am sorry to hear this. I wish him peace. Squinch Jul 2017 #115
Is it what got Teddy Kennedy? joeybee12 Jul 2017 #117
Yes catbyte Jul 2017 #120
Too bad joeybee12 Jul 2017 #129
Very sad Worktodo Jul 2017 #121
The Freerepublic people are absolutely destestible. Comments on McCain prove this. Kablooie Jul 2017 #125
That disgusts me jzodda Jul 2017 #127
I am very down over this tonight jzodda Jul 2017 #126
He needs to get the same treatment that Jimmy Carter had. Motley13 Jul 2017 #128
Every human will become afflicted with cancer if they live long enough. gilbert sullivan Jul 2017 #130
It's also a gift from the environments we cherish and want to save. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #150
+1 dalton99a Jul 2017 #162
That's sad news. n/t tammywammy Jul 2017 #132
In the words of the immortal "The Dude"....... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #134
I'm sorry to hear this. montana_hazeleyes Jul 2017 #135
No place for politics or my team v your team here. flvegan Jul 2017 #136
I could never agree with his politics murielm99 Jul 2017 #139
Darn, I'm so sorry to hear this! denvine Jul 2017 #140
Wrong guy if you ask me. Sorry John and family. You've always seemed pretty decent. truthisfreedom Jul 2017 #141
well rtracey Jul 2017 #148
I am very sorry for Senator McCain Maeve Jul 2017 #149
Lost a brother to a brain tumor left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #151
So did mine. weydowner Jul 2017 #158
That is tough new. I wish him well. CentralMass Jul 2017 #152
McCain is at least a "sane" Republican jimlup Jul 2017 #153

hlthe2b

(102,133 posts)
3. I'm no political fan, but this does sadden me. That's about as bad as it gets.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:03 PM
Jul 2017

and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
14. Yeah, no kidding.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jul 2017

Sorry to hear this, even though I oppose him politically.

Fortunately, at least HE has good health care.

hlthe2b

(102,133 posts)
72. McCain's original melanoma was many years ago. This represents a late & very aggressive
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jul 2017

metastasis.

Carter's done amazingly well, yes (thankfully), but this is different.

Tess49

(1,579 posts)
116. Yes. These tumors cannot be totally resected. They put out little feelers and implant in
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

other parts of the brain. The main tumor, if removed, grows back rapidly. This is why they are impossible to treat. My uncle died from a glioblastoma. He knew something was up before he was officially diagnosed. I think McCain did, too. I've never had a routine physical where I was given scripts for lab, mammogram, and, oh, a brain scan.

Response to Tess49 (Reply #81)

leftieNanner

(15,067 posts)
38. Not really
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

Glioblastoma is a particularly nasty one. So awful. Never liked the man's politics, but this sucks.

maxsolomon

(33,251 posts)
66. My Mom was diagnosed with 2 at once.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jul 2017

She was treated - surgery to remove the tumors, chemo, radiation. The works.

She lived 6 months after surgery and she was never the same.

Still wound up dying of it in 6 months. So did Ted Kennedy. McCain will do the same.

We should have let her go at the 1st diagnosis.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
74. So sorry to hear that about your mother.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:51 PM
Jul 2017

Your family must have suffered so much in those 6 months.

Sounds like there is just not much hope for any recovery on McCain's part.

maxsolomon

(33,251 posts)
79. Thanks - it was really hard on my father, but it's 10 years now.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:55 PM
Jul 2017

Time heals.

My son, the newly minted doctor, just texted: "it's a death sentence". He's right.

The only bright side: if you get it, you basically just go to sleep.

maxsolomon

(33,251 posts)
156. once the tumor gets large enough, you can't stay awake
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jul 2017

going to sleep is the nice way to describe it.

it can be worse than that, but that's what my mom was experiencing before it was diagnosed - she could barely wake up.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
7. It's a good thing he has quality health care.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:05 PM
Jul 2017

It's a shame he wants to take it away from so many other people.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
13. I was thinking the exact same thought.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jul 2017

He was going to vote for me to suffer and eventually die in excruciating pain and penniless (which seems to be my future as of last Nov 8th). I am no hypocrite and I believe in the "Golden Rule". I wonder if he would leave me HIS excellent, fully paid for insurance plan? I'll change my opinion when I get a call from him or a decent bill from his pals in DC.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
45. While your assessment is probably right, I am not sure if he gave any indication how he was
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jul 2017

going to vote on the latest senate bill.

As of right now the republican death bill is not going anywhere, and hopefully that will buy us time to at least take back one of the houses in 2018, to stop the republican insanity.

The problem with Arizona is that their Governor is an extreme right winger, and if mccain steps down there is no doubt he will appoint a right winger if mccain steps down.

Your position is perfectly understandable

drray23

(7,616 posts)
71. it will be interesting to see
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jul 2017

if he briefly comes back to the senate to vote to destroy the ACA while he is himself under dire straits.

He has an opportunity to settle the healthcare debate by shaming his gop colleagues and coming to the senate to vote no. Imagine the powerful message of an ailing mc cain on the floor of the senate knocking some sense into the gop.

quakerboy

(13,917 posts)
113. No chance
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:35 PM
Jul 2017

Even if he tried, they would just cut his mic and start talking about how brain cancer had made him incoherent.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
143. I wonder if trump will call him a loser for getting cancer?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 07:02 AM
Jul 2017

And I agree - funny how important health care can be when you need it.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
144. Yeah...I agree 1000% with you. I hope John feels some compassion after all of this.....
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 07:42 AM
Jul 2017

As horrible as this is having little or NO insurance,or having a home taken away and other things will NEVER be on his or his families mind. They can concentrate on treatments to try and slow this down to where he can have another year or two or maybe more.

And NO,he's not the only one in our Country who DESERVES this kind of health care coverage. We ALL do.......

JI7

(89,240 posts)
8. Sad to hear. I was hoping he would live long like his mother has been
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:05 PM
Jul 2017

This will probably hurt her also.

jmowreader

(50,529 posts)
137. Mitch McConnell will never die
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:43 PM
Jul 2017

There's an Iron Maiden song that goes "Only the good die young. All the evil seem to live forever."

Mitch McConnell is more evil than Donald Trump.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
12. He is not the only American recently diagnosed with a life threatening disease
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jul 2017

And thank the goddess he has taxpayer funded health insurance.

The rest of us can just fucking die - according to Trump and the Tea Party.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
15. I respect John McCain like no other Senator.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jul 2017

Shit gibbon mocked him for getting caught. I was enraged.

However,

His rambling question to Comey about Hillary....I was aghast. I wonder.

I do wish him well.

BumRushDaShow

(128,502 posts)
16. Just saw a WaPo breaking - link
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jul 2017
Sen. John McCain diagnosed with brain cancer

By Washington Post Staff July 19 at 8:11 PM

The office for the 80-year-old McCain, the Republican nominee for president in 2008 and a U.S. senator representing Arizona since 1987, released a statement from the Mayo Clinic announcing that, after undergoing a procedure to remove a blood clot from above his left eye last week, “Subsequent tissue pathology revealed that a primary brain tumor known as a glioblastoma was associated with the blood clot.”

“The Senator and his family are reviewing further treatment options with his Mayo Clinic care team. Treatment options may include a combination of chemotherapy and radiation.”
This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/19/sen-john-mccain-diagnosed-with-brain-cancer/
 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
80. His legacy?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jul 2017

Maybe he’ll be the one to bring an end to the Trump Presidency. He has nothing to lose and can go down in history as the one Republican with a moral compass, willing to put country before political party.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
93. I have had some very pleasant daydreams about that
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jul 2017

since I heard the news.... He would go down in history as having likely saved the country...

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
131. I don't think it was.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jul 2017

He wanted Lieberman. You could tell as the campaign wore on that he didn't care for Palin.

Mr.Bill

(24,243 posts)
20. My wife's sister died from the same kind of cancer last year.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jul 2017

She lived six months after being diagnosed. It was like alzheimers disease on steroids. Any semblance of quality of life was gone in a month or two.

demosincebirth

(12,530 posts)
48. I have a first cousin who is in hospice, now, with a cancerous tumor in her brain.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jul 2017

She was a beautiful and kind lady her whole life. I wish McCain the best. God, I hate cancer!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
22. Godspeed John McCain
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jul 2017

I was never a fan or supporter, but I wish you a swift and painless passing from this world.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. President Jimmy Carter had brain and liver cancer and is now cancer free, they have some
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jul 2017

good treatments.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
31. I am no fan of John Mc Cain but being a cancer survivor myself,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jul 2017

I don't wish that on anyone. He's been down this road before but the location this time is a whole other calamity. I am sure some people may regret the mean things they said about him after his apparent confusion several weeks ago, especially given his history of cancer some years ago. I wish him well and will be thinking of him and his family during this stressful time.

sabbat hunter

(6,827 posts)
33. Same cancer
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jul 2017

that got Ted Kennedy.

The fact that surgery has already been ruled out and will be treated with chemo and radiation is not a good sign.

guss

(239 posts)
37. diagnosed
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

I always liked McCain. He as a Republican is the last Unicorn who has some sort of Morality to him.
When he was running for President against Obama.
He Was asked at a town hall meeting by some gal about Obama being a Muslim.
He Told her that was wrong to say and It was not true.
I Respect him for that. And he a guy with a great sense of humor.
Hard to find among that party.
even though what he had to agree to for his constituents in his party
My Hopes and prayers for him and his family.

guss

(239 posts)
165. ty
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:09 AM
Jul 2017

Thank you for providing this video.
It shows he is more then a Political hack and more of a Real person.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
39. For those who don't know the term "glioblastoma"
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

It's a death sentence. No cure. They can delay the inevitable (Ted Kennedy had this, too), but it's not curable.

My brother-in-law had it, too. He was diagnosed at 48, told he had six months at best. He quit his job, took daily hikes in the woods, went sailing, lived two and a half years, which amazed his doctors, but it only put off the inevitable. He never lived to see his 52nd birthday.

They can make McCain comfortable for a while, maybe he can even resume his Senate duties for a few months, depending on how well he responds to whatever treatment they decide to try. But there is no exit from this. All his insurance and all his money won't get him a cure for a glioblastoma. There is none.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
78. Yes, it is a death sentence and McCain will not necessarily be able to be well enough to work nor
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jul 2017

....make decisions that are rational and coming from a fully functioning brain. This tumor fully explains some of McCain's strange behavior and bizarre questioning of Comey and answers to other interviews in recent months. It won't get better, only worse.

The question is of course, how long does he have even with the best healthcare and treatment the Mayo Clinic can offer - 3, 6, 9 months? And does he want to spend it with his wife and children and friends? Doing for example as your Brother in law did and living his life, whatever is left, as best he can with those he loves and love him. Or does he try to "work" and be a Senator for his constituents, where he may or may not necessarily be functioning properly with all his faculties and decision making? Then again, we have currently the occupant of the White House who isn't necessarily functioning properly with all faculties and decision making....

What a mind fuck this all is.....

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
118. From what I recently read the average has gone up
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jul 2017

with the latest treatments. 15 months on average, of course it also depends on a number of variables. Like how advanced it is.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
154. As far as I have seen
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jul 2017

Once an initial tumor is removed, one can function normally for many months. It always comes back, of course, and at some point, it takes over parts of the brain without one cannot live. It is then declared to be operable no further, and nature takes its course.

But as with my brother-in-law, and indeed with Teddy Kennedy and others I have known with this, if the first operation to remove what is visible is successful, the victim can function normally for months afterward, in rare cases even a year or two. But it ALWAYS comes back. Symptoms like epilepsy, incoherency, rapidly deteriorating motor functions and others manifest themselves. My brother-in-law, at the end, lost even the ability to swallow water and would have died of dehydration without intravenous water supplements.

McCain, curiously, now has the chance to go out as a hero of a people whose voice he has finally heard, or as McConnell's lackey. Either way, he is departing this world, and sooner rather than later unless he manages to beat all odds. I would not want to place any bets on his choosing the nobler path, but I have no objection to being pleasantly surprised, either.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
163. Don't hold your breath
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jul 2017

McCain's Republican colleagues seem more in tune with what Alan Grayson claimed their health care motto to be so many years ago: "stay healthy or die quickly." McCain's ailment is terminal, and the Republican attitude on such situations seems to be "there is no cure, so why should anyone else pay for treatment?"

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
40. My good vibes and prayers are with him and his family. As I'm a military vet, I
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jul 2017

always liked him. I just always wanted him to stand up to the dumb one instead of always acquiescing. It made my blood boil when the dumb one said McCain as a POW was a coward cuz he got caught.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
54. McCain is from a different generation of Republican. My home state of Oregon had two liberal Repub
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jul 2017

senators at the same time who were widely respected across the political spectrum.

McCain is someone you could disagree with, and even if he lied to your face, you'd know that he knew the truth.

The current batch of Republicans are either dumb as fucking dirt or they are perfect stone cold sociopaths who do a pretty good job of imitating Gomer Pyle crossed with a lynch mob.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
155. Current batch of republicans: All thanks
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jul 2017

to the koch brothers and their ilk taking over the puke party + faux and flush poisoning the minds of many of our fellow Americans.

Oh, and re McCain: godspeed and think of your fellow Americans lacking your quality of health care.



EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
164. Which was so stupid of Trump..
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jul 2017

....for Christ's sake, he got shot down and landed near VC, what was he supposed to do? Take on the whole NVA with a pistol?

broadcaster90210

(333 posts)
46. Don't care
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:31 PM
Jul 2017

He would kill millions of innocents with his support of Rethug policies.

I have no pity for the man. He better hope I am correct and that there is no Hell.

qanda

(10,422 posts)
47. Very sorry to hear this
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:31 PM
Jul 2017

I remember how I felt when Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with a brain tumor. It broke my heart then and my heart is broken now. Nobody deserves cancer. Nobody!

mchill

(1,017 posts)
51. My friend has same cancer in same area of brain
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:34 PM
Jul 2017

Glioblastoma - though there are subtypes, I believe. McCain's confusion at the Comey hearing was very similar to the first symptoms of my friend, last October. He lives out of state, but I got a chance to see him this last weekend and the decline was noticeable. He lost his speech within days of his initial confusion and subsequent dx. Had surgery, radiation, then chemo (pill form). He was able to speak pretty well after the radiation, but now, no more. A few words. Weak. Going back for more surgery and a chemo wafer this week.

Given my friend's condition, I doubt McCain will come back to the Senate. It is very sad.

Sadly, I've heard of worse cases with this extremely fast growing cancer. Someone was driving down the freeway and had such a bad headache he stopped the car and called 911. He died a few weeks later at UCSF. So much depends on which part of the brain, if operable and what brain activities it affects. That is my understanding.

mchill

(1,017 posts)
55. Come to think of it
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jul 2017

I think the blood clot was in front of the speech area and affect short term memory? Something with cognition. And I remember a Senator said he spoke with him at the hospital.

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
56. I'll never forget the dirty trick Lee Atwater and Bush
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jul 2017

pulled on him in the SC primary. I read that Atwater had his regrets about it on his deathbed.

catbyte

(34,338 posts)
59. Here's an awful coincidence: Atwater died of an inoperable brain tumor, too.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:41 PM
Jul 2017

This is going to be horrific for his family. It's really saddens me. It's just an awful way to go.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
65. Atwater had many regrets
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jul 2017

so many Democrats reached out to him during his dreadful illness - I never thought it was possible, but from all accounts he felt some shame over the way he had behaved

still_one

(92,061 posts)
92. Do you believe that Atwater would have had those regrets if he wasn't terminal? I seriously
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:05 PM
Jul 2017

doubt it. He exploited and embraced racism to its fullest extent, and was instrumental in making today's republican party in that image


still_one

(92,061 posts)
89. Atwater was Rove's mentor, and it was Atwater's legacy that rove and bush used in SC.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:02 PM
Jul 2017

What they did is organize through the christian coalition to spread the lie that mccain sired an out of wedlock child who was African American. They were tapping into the virulent racism that permeates the republican party in SC, and they were successful.

What Atwater's legacy was, and what he passed down to Rove and the republicans was to utilize blatant racism lies against Michael Dukakis, saying that he would "strip the bark off the little bastard", where referring to Dukakis, and making Willie Horton his running mate.

Atwater utilized the racism of the Southern strategy to its fullest racist extent, and embraced the politics of personal destruction.

As for the "regrets" that Atwater had, and the apology that he offered when he knew he was terminal, I suspect it was more because he knew he was going to meet his maker than anything else. I do not think he would have been remorseful at all if he wasn't terminal, and his racist legacy is the center of the republican party

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
61. Isn't glioblastoma the same cancer that Ted Kennedy had?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:42 PM
Jul 2017

It is the same kind my oldest sister died from. It is very invasive and it is pretty much impossible to remove it all so it tends to recur.

I hope some of the new treatments can help Senator McCain. While I don't agree with his politics he has already gone through so much in his life, he does not deserve this.

40RatRod

(532 posts)
62. Sad
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:42 PM
Jul 2017

As a military Vet, I always felt John, in his heart was in the the right place, even when I couldn't agree with his politics.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
161. As a combat vet, He will always hold a special place with me.............
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jul 2017

Only understood by other combat vets.

janx

(24,128 posts)
70. This news popped up on my computer from WAPost a few minutes ago...
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

Horrible news.

If that man had managed to win the presidency (sans Palin) at some other time, it wouldn't have bothered me at all. He is a war hero and a stand-up guy.

How ironic that this is happening now. He can't stand what is currently going on.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
84. I wish him well! He reminds me sometimes of 'old school' republicans and not
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jul 2017

as wacky as the new regime. I hope he gets better, but cancer ...
Stay Strong, John McCain, as we know he will.

catbyte

(34,338 posts)
85. On Twitter, Deplorable Donald's Deplorables are doing handstands.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jul 2017

Vile doesn't even begin to describe them. I can't believe how goddamn vicious they're being to a fellow Republican. There really are a lot of worthless, morally bankrupt people in the Republican party.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
90. The republican party should somehow purge itself of these creatures, but they are Trump's kind of
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:02 PM
Jul 2017

people. They are people that exist for hatred and that is their essence of life, extreme hatred and persecution.

CountAllVotes

(20,867 posts)
91. Best wishes to you Sen. McCain
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jul 2017

Sad for the Senator & his family!

He is a good man I believe. No one can contest that his is an American that was in a bonafide war which is far more that others can say.

Years of service 1958–1981
Rank Captain
Battles/wars Vietnam War (POW)
Awards

Silver Star
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart
Legion of Merit
Distinguished Flying Cross
Navy Commendation Medal
Others



peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
95. Sorry to hear this
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:10 PM
Jul 2017

A family friend was diagnosed with the same thing but his surgeons were unable to remove the tumor. He's been given 12-14 months with initial radiation and followup chemo. The problem with these tumors is that they're aggressive and send spidery threads throughout the connective tissue. So, even when the primary tumor is excised, you rarely get it all, as in destroy every cancer cell.

This is never the news you want to receive. For yourself or your loved ones. Blessings to McCain and his family. This will be a hard, painful road for them all.

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
106. Having been through 3 separate rounds of chemo over the past 5 years
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:24 PM
Jul 2017

I sincerely hope he decides to reject treatment. I'm in my late 50's, and it is hell for me. I've told all of my immediate family that if it comes back a fourth time, I can't go through it again.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
107. This is really bad news. Survival rates are low, and he's 80. Oh, my.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:30 PM
Jul 2017

This is terrible news.

The Republicans are losing one of its members who isn't batsh_t crazy like Cruz.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
121. Very sad
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jul 2017

Have not always agreed with McCain but he has served our country with a level of decency and civility that is often absent in politics these days.

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
125. The Freerepublic people are absolutely destestible. Comments on McCain prove this.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:28 PM
Jul 2017

Most of the comments related to McCain are snide comments about Obamacare, "good riddance", he should resign and who will replace him.

Nary a single note of sympathy and care for him a human being.

The right is filled with horrible people who have lost all their humanity.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
126. I am very down over this tonight
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:29 PM
Jul 2017

I may not have agreed with the man on a host of issues but the notion that this guy who survived a prisoner of war camp will be felled by this makes me very sad.

FIND A CURE FOR CANCER!!!!

 

gilbert sullivan

(192 posts)
130. Every human will become afflicted with cancer if they live long enough.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:36 PM
Jul 2017

Assuming something else doesn't kill them (us). It's one of the gifts we get from the loving god the bible tells us about.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
150. It's also a gift from the environments we cherish and want to save.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jul 2017

It's also a gift from the environments we cherish and want to save.

(I get it finally... petulant irrelevance is indeed, fun and entertaining, despite the lack of character is illustrates!!!)

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
134. In the words of the immortal "The Dude".......
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:57 PM
Jul 2017

"Bummer, man".

No really, that is about the biggest freaking bummer out there. McCain is a good man, despite being a Republican. I wish he and his family best wishes, and the best help today's medicine can provide. No healthcare jokes here, folks.

denvine

(799 posts)
140. Darn, I'm so sorry to hear this!
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jul 2017

We didn't agree on much of anything but I would never wish this on him.

truthisfreedom

(23,140 posts)
141. Wrong guy if you ask me. Sorry John and family. You've always seemed pretty decent.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:05 AM
Jul 2017

Pretty thoughtful, for a republican.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
148. well
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 08:12 AM
Jul 2017

Well, this is the great equalizer. Too bad, but whether you are the King of the World or a street person begging for food, everyone dies, and in the end everyone is equal. Many will say oh how horrible, so sad, he was great, he was wonderful, a brave man, etc, etc,etc, but was he brave when voting for the things that went against his own citizens. Was he brave when he voted to cut programs. Would he have been a good republican and voted with McDickhead on this murder...ahhhh sorry healthcare bill? I HOPE we never know.

Am I sad he has a life threatening illness. Not really. I ask myself for the thousands...was he or any of his GOP cretins sad when they help kill many they voted against?, the many they helped cut their futures short?

I was quite lucky with my parents, My father dies in 2010, my mother just this July 4. Both sick, both running major healthcare bills, both covered by medicare and insurance they were able to afford. What about your mother or grandmothers who cant.

no sorry, (and yes it sounds like shit) but I 'm not sad.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
149. I am very sorry for Senator McCain
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 08:15 AM
Jul 2017

I respect him, altho I question many of his decisions over the years. He has served our country for a long time and I wish him the best in this challenge.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
151. Lost a brother to a brain tumor
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jul 2017

He had all the most modern treatments.

They gave him six months.

He died in three months.

weydowner

(100 posts)
158. So did mine.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jul 2017

Mine too. But it happened much more quickly - one tuesday he went out for a walk with the dogs - by rhe weekend he was gone; terrible terrible thing.
But it is not Brain Cancer, from what I hear. Just a brain tumour; any type of blastoma is bad - he, and JM had the worst sort.

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