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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:36 PM Jul 2017

Senate Republicans plan to defund Planned Parenthood in 'skinny' repeal

Source: The Hill




BY PETER SULLIVAN - 07/27/17 12:28 PM EDT

Senate Republicans are planning to include a one-year defunding of Planned Parenthood in their scaled-down ObamaCare repeal bill, according to lobbyists and congressional aides.

The sources said the repeal of ObamaCare's individual and employer mandates, as expected, will also be included in the "skinny" repeal bill as a part of Senate GOP leaders' attempt to pass any legislation to keep the repeal process alive.

The contents of the scaled-down bill still need to be discussed at the Senate GOP lunch on Thursday before they are finalized, the sources said. Many rank-and-file senators have been in the dark on the contents of the scaled-down bill, saying as recently as Wednesday that they did not know what would be included.

Senate GOP leaders are heading toward a vote late Thursday or early Friday with little time for lawmakers and the public to review the measure.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/344133-senate-republicans-plan-to-defund-planned-parenthood-in-skinny-repeal

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Senate Republicans plan to defund Planned Parenthood in 'skinny' repeal (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
GOPers truly hate women. Iliyah Jul 2017 #1
They do, they truly do, They are sexual predators!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #4
That is who they are, that is who they were...and Stuart G Jul 2017 #6
I can't believe republican women vote for these haters. It's as incredible as the GOP Log Cabin RKP5637 Jul 2017 #12
Tons. jmowreader Jul 2017 #15
Tons. jmowreader Jul 2017 #20
But Murkowski said...NO..I will not defund Planned Parenthood. Stuart G Jul 2017 #2
please send her a tweet. I did @lisaMurkowski. Or call her to remind her. riversedge Jul 2017 #19
Collins also said the same. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #21
And the GOP War on Women continues. Raster Jul 2017 #3
So they are against women getting birth control & other women's healthcare like breast cancer exams kimbutgar Jul 2017 #5
I'm worried that not enough Repugs will say no to this one. lark Jul 2017 #7
Perfect!! Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #8
That's Very Good News DarthDem Jul 2017 #9
You beat me to it. Ligyron Jul 2017 #16
Parliamentarian ruled health bill's Planned Parenthood defunding won't meet 51-vote requirement JaneQPublic Jul 2017 #10
yes, I thought that the first thing when I read the headline OKNancy Jul 2017 #13
Phffft. Even 50 votes are unlikely. JaneQPublic Jul 2017 #14
There are 2 words that describe Republicans: hate, hate, hate, more hate... Stuart G Jul 2017 #11
Can I get that skinny repeal with a double dose of bile, please? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #17
I must be dyslexic. I read that as "slimy-repeal". JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2017 #18
and the war on women escalates apace! niyad Jul 2017 #22
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #23

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
6. That is who they are, that is who they were...and
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jul 2017

that is who they will always be. How many republican women will vote with this???

You tell me?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
12. I can't believe republican women vote for these haters. It's as incredible as the GOP Log Cabin
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jul 2017

who supports republicans that hate LGBT. It all is so damn F'ed up!

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
15. Tons.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jul 2017

Google "The only moral abortion is my abortion," the heartwarming story of a nonjudgmental abortion provider who provided services to some of the protesters who ringed his clinic daily imploring women to not "kill their babies."

And as soon as they had recovered from the procedure, they were back out there doing the same shit.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
20. Tons.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jul 2017

If you've never read Arthur Hailey's Airplane, there's a passage where the rich, entitled right-wing womanizing pilot discusses the best countries to seek abortion care with the rich, entitled right-wing stewardess he impregnated.

In Animal House, the cover of the Daily Faberian that announced the Deltas' disciplinary council hearing (all of whose members were in the most-Republican house on campus, of course) also announced the rich, entitled right-wing dean's wife's sudden trip to the tropics...which was, in those days, coded language for going off to get an abortion.

If you didn't want to go to Tahiti, there was always the friendly doctor, who would be happy to "extract your menses" for you. In theory this could have been legit - in the days before tampons and good pads a heavy period would not have been good for your white floor-length gown - but in reality "menstrual extraction" was code for "abortion."

Abortion is not the only thing right wingers are two-faced about. Witness Prohibition. For the Right, the booze flowed freely. Only for the poor and liberal was there problems in getting it.

To assume Republican women will turn away from their party over abortion shows a shocking lack of understanding as to what Republicans are about. "All for me and none for thee," that's what Repukes are made of.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. But Murkowski said...NO..I will not defund Planned Parenthood.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jul 2017

Or words to that effect...now if she votes against this, and Collins does too...then we are down to 1 again...Just one vote...if Murkowski keeps her word...If..If..If..If..If..If..If..If .....we will soon see....

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
5. So they are against women getting birth control & other women's healthcare like breast cancer exams
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jul 2017

They are cutting out in the mandatory maternity care coverage in the ACA and outright ban abortions.

What could go wrong there?

lark

(23,065 posts)
7. I'm worried that not enough Repugs will say no to this one.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jul 2017

In a way it's the worst of all because it's not even a real bill and is just a form to go to conference committee with the House and that will push actual bill far to right and fuck us over royally. Of course sufficient Repugs would most likely vote for the final bill, idiot lemmings that they are. I just hope the provisions take place next year, but that probably won't happen. they lack any courage on their convictions so will make it real after the mid-terms or worse after 2021. In the meantime the markets have been destroyed by all the Repug threats against them. Drumpf, the mother freaking moron, only cares about a win, in other words a signing. All his campaign promises didn't mean a damn thing, just empty lies like always.

One thing, if they leave in the huge increases on people age 54-64, I think they will have dug their own graves. People that age pay attention to money, health and insurance issues and will know how badly they are getting fucked over. Hopefully enough of them aren't drumpfs crazy 25-35% that they will be able to swing the election away from all Repugs and most especially from him.

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
8. Perfect!!
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jul 2017

The bill now throws 23 million people off their insurance, raises premiums dramatically, and gets an extra shot in at women.

The GOP is on their game today!!!

And if it's not obvious:

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
9. That's Very Good News
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jul 2017

This seems like a serious miscalculation.

These Goopers just can't help themselves in terms of how much they detest women, can they?

First, it's possible that the inclusion of this needless and inflammatory measure will cause "skinny repeal" (such a stupid term) to fail.

Second, if it passes with this language in it, it will be that much easier for Democrats to demonize it.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
10. Parliamentarian ruled health bill's Planned Parenthood defunding won't meet 51-vote requirement
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jul 2017

From July 21:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/parliamentarian-rules-health-bills-planned-parenthood-defunding-6-month-waiting-period-dont-meet-51-vote-requirement/article/2629393

Several provisions in the bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, including anti-abortion provisions, may not make it into the final draft next week because they do not meet the requirements of budget reconciliation.

The Senate is advancing the healthcare bill through reconciliation, which requires only a simple majority of votes for passage but also has strict rules attached to it, including that changes to law can apply only to budget items, revenue, and spending. Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough is tasked with advising the chamber as to which provisions follow the rules, and her assessment is likely to affect the bill's final text.

According to the Senate parliamentarian, the anti-abortion provisions violate reconciliation's Byrd rule, as does the "six-month lockout" that Republicans planned to use as an alternative to Obamacare's individual mandate, which requires people to buy health insurance or pay a fine. The provision would require people who do not stay enrolled in coverage to wait six months before enrolling again.

Paying cost-sharing reduction subsidies, which help insurers reduce out-of-pocket costs for customers and would help stabilize the Obamacare exchanges for next year, were also declared against the rules.

A bill would need 60 votes to include the provisions.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
11. There are 2 words that describe Republicans: hate, hate, hate, more hate...
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jul 2017

That is who they were
That is who they are..
That is who they will always be.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
17. Can I get that skinny repeal with a double dose of bile, please?
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jul 2017

I insist on extra-misogynistic bile. It's the genuine Republican recipe. Nothing else leaves quite such a bad taste in your mouth.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
18. I must be dyslexic. I read that as "slimy-repeal".
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jul 2017

Though either reading is probably ok.

I hope the same usual small group of Repub senators will vote against this one.

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