Police chiefs association refutes Trump's speech that endorsed officer brutality

[DonViejo]

Source: RawStory




President Donald Trump on Friday told a cheering crowd of police officers that they shouldn’t be afraid to rough up suspects during arrests.

“When you see these towns and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, I said, please don’t be too nice,” Trump said during a speech at Suffolk County Community College. “Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody — don’t hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away, okay?”

In the wake of Trump’s remarks, the International Association of Chiefs of Police released a statement reiterating that police officers should not use needless violence while arresting suspects.

“Law enforcement agencies develop policies and procedures, as well as conduct extensive training, to ensure that any use of force is carefully applied and objectively reasonable considering the situation confronted by officers,” the association writes. “Law enforcement officers are trained to treat all individuals, whether they are complainant, suspect, or defendant, with dignity and respect.”

Link to tweet

###

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/police-chiefs-association-refutes-trumps-speech-that-endorsed-officer-brutality/

[groundloop]

1. Good, more people need to bring to light what a low-life 45* is

[NotMyFuhrer]

40. Lets not forget that 45 was WHOLE-HEARTEDLY ENDORSED by the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) !!!!!!!!

Lets not forget that 45 was WHOLE-HEARTEDLY ENDORSED by the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP)

Please see:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/heres-what-biggest-police-union-wants-trump-his-first-100-days/


“The policy ideas, released through the union’s official website include …. aggressively dismantling the modest reforms suggested by the Obama administration in a 2015 plan called President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing





http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296342-nations-largest-police-union-endorses-trump


“The Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) gave the GOP presidential nominee its endorsement after he received support from more than two-thirds of the group's national board”






#

[bronxiteforever]

2. The first police brutality case

In Suffolk County, after this fiasco,will involve the plaintiff getting the trump video and the whole of the chain of command will be subpoenaed on their demeanor and receptive response to the Trump encouragement.

If I were a Suffolk Commissioner, I would start raising the taxes now to pay off the suits. Every lawyer in NY is on their way to Suffolk to find a brutality case with a cop who was on the video. This is defcon 5 level of stupidity, let alone the unconstitutional aspect which is horrendous.

[47of74]

37. I've occasionally consider defense as a possible career option

Last year after a former member of our church made those cracks about Mrs. Clinton laughing about getting a rapist off I seriously considered criminal defense as a way of saying fuck you to that church member. I seriously considered leaving the church because of him but he decided to solve that problem himself and left after the election.

And now as well, so I can do my part in seeing any department who heeds the Orange Shit's advice is held accountable.

[old guy]

3. If their statement is to be believed,

why did those in attendance applaud?

[billpolonsky]

18. Precisely

Can't cover that up.

[mr_lebowski]

30. Maybe ... started by Plants? Even a small number of plants can be effectively leveraged ...

Because people in groups of their peers have a pronounced tendency to reflexively act in unison ... this is esp. true when the 'stakes for doing so' are relatively low, such as in an 'audience' type scenario.

And there's no QUESTION that Trump has utilized this quirk of human nature to great effect for many, many years.

[defacto7]

33. Think BSA

Peer pressure and the entertainment factor are powerful influences on humans. Awareness of the message is something to be exercised and practiced by all of us or we get sucked into the mob.

[SamKnause]

4. What a joke.

They are trained to escalate violence.

They are trained to shoot to kill and lie about it.

They are trained to be terrified of those they are suppose to protect.

They are trained that their lives are more important than the lives of citizens.

They are trained that they are the judge, jury, and executioners.

They are trained that if they murder someone they will not be held accountable, even if

that murder is on video.

They are trained that the citizens tax dollars will protect them from civil suits.

They are trained that black and brown people are scary and always guilty of something.

They are trained that they deserve respect and they are to disrespect those they serve and protect.

They are trained that anyone not wearing a police uniform is a criminal.

They are trained to steal money, cars, houses, boats, etc. to finance their precincts.

Armed thugs in uniforms.

They have a lot in common with gangs.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. You do not have any credible evidence that there is any such TRAINING.

You confuse police culture with police training. You have a big confusion.

[Judi Lynn]

14. Trained by repetitive cultural conditioning, and "life" experience on the job.

However else would we know about the codes of silence, the concocted stories repeated by multiple cops, the "throw down" weapon "evidence," incredible corruption, astounding viciousness, police slush funds, and an endless list of ugly pieces of history already on record?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Yes, the police Culture that must be fixed. No point in fixing the wrong thing that doesn't need it

[VermontKevin]

19. Police culture is their training. You can't distinguish it.

I was public service a long time. Things I learned at school and the academy were one thing but what I learned on the job from the men who taught me are what we did.

Really did.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Like I said; Culture, not training. The police culture has to be fixed.

[VermontKevin]

25. It has to be destroyed.

There is no fixing it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Then you'd have no police at all. Period. . . . nt

[VermontKevin]

28. Imagine.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

36. Yes. Lawlessness or military suppression. I'm surprised you want one or the other. 4 choices

Four choices:

1) Police

2) Reformed Police

3) Lawlessness because of no Police

4) Military everywhere in the streets and homes and businesses and farms because of no Police

[gtar100]

15. Yes, off the record training. So police chiefs everywhere have

plausible deniability. And so they can make these rosy statements about how they are here to protect us and ignore all the shit that is done in the name of "police work". Well, they made the statement above, let's see if they follow through.

[iluvtennis]

29. Very well stated!

[modrepub]

5. Humane Treatment Just Makes Financial Sense

Hard to get criminal charges for police officers but civil settlements have a much lower bar. If you have a bunch of ruffians making arrests you'll be laying out lots of money to settle civil suites. I'd bet the total amount of settlements and associated court costs is not something many police departments make public.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Maybe they'll save a back seat for Donnie

[yallerdawg]

8. "The Trump Apology Tour"

Advocating police brutality.

Denigrating previous presidents and campaign rivals in front of 45,000 Boy Scouts.

Pummeling Republicans and his own 'best people ever' picks.

"I'm going to make you sorry you ever voted for me!"

[BigmanPigman]

9. Good! They have higher morals than the leader of the Boy Scouts does.

[thesquanderer]

10. Everyone who invites him to speak has to apologize afterwards

The Boy Scouts, and now this...

[Chemisse]

11. I wonder if they will follow his advice when HE is arrested.

That would be richly ironic.

[47of74]

43. Keith Olbermann had this to say

Link to tweet

Fuck, I miss Keith.

[Chemisse]

44. Perfect. n/t

[displacedtexan]

12. Paddy Wagon???

When was the last time any civilized person used that Irish slur?

[SCVDem]

13. Last time

Was Lawrence O'Donnell explaining what it really means.

So we should support the cops who are the new SS?

Bullshit! Applaud that!

Dumbshits!

[Judi Lynn]

16. Thanks for taking a moment to mention it. Had never heard there was a racist meaning. n/t

[VermontKevin]

17. "Paddy wagon" "Welsh on a bet" "Indian giver."

All things I grew up with and my kids kicked my butt over. Glad they did.

[broadcaster90210]

21. Man. Last I heard it was the 60s.

nt

[TNNurse]

32. Trump is not civilized.

[meow2u3]

42. You nailed it!

He's an uncivilized pig who belongs in a pen, not the White House.

[broadcaster90210]

20. Yeah well ... your officers applauded.

nt

[Dustlawyer]

22. Where are the American police unions?

What we need is a special prosecution group who are in charge of investigating and prosecuting use of force complaints. Local D.A.'s need the police department and cannot be unbiased. Once they start having to go to jail for use of force misconduct these unarmed shootings and mysterious deaths in jail will dry up. Not completely, but drastically.

Cops feel entitled and above the law because they are the law.

[MineralMan]

39. In many places, the police union is united

against any limits on officers' authority. That has been the case in Minneapolis for some time. The police union's spokesperson consistently speaks against all attempts to control police violence, implement diversity training, and force officers to use body cameras in an effective way.

Most recently, he attacked the Mayor of Minneapolis on these issues. He has also regularly fought measures implemented by the former Chief of police.

So, that may be the answer to your question.

[Honeycombe8]

26. Good response. I thought that Trump's response wouldn't have much effect on them.

They have their own policies and procedures...and Trump is not their boss. The President has no role in local law enforcement.

[TheCowsCameHome]

31. Why the fuck do they invite him anyway?????????

Don't they see this idiot will cause them more harm than good?

He screws up EVERY time he opens his stupid mouth.

[zentrum]

34. Hey--Chiefs! The

...horse is out of the barn. What the hell were all those policemen doing who cheered and clapped?

Glad you all refuted the message but better clean house within each precinct.

[yuiyoshida]

35. WE DON'T HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES...

we HAVE A CRIME BOSS.

[HAB911]

38. IMO, he's putting police in jeopardy

His words only underscore the problem with police departments and will increase retribution by the populace

Those clapping to his words should be reprimanded

[Paladin]

41. Nice to see continuing indications that this country is better than its leadership.

Not that that's much of a standard, anymore......